FloppY_
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Uzique wrote:

i know i keep throwing out not-too-great, casual options... but if you're trying to get a comprehensive list:

The Sims series incl. Sim City
Adding The Sims & Sim City as seperate entries...

Sim City goes to honorable and Sims to worth a try....



(I like building houses in the sims, but not so much playing "house")
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Nordemus
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Splinter Cell should be around there too.
unnamednewbie13
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Uzique wrote:

imho Half Life 1 deserves to be more on the 'Must Buy' list than anything else- not a 'honorable mention'.

you make it sound peripheral and almost secondary... it is THE genesis of PC gaming, especially FPS.

you can't play PC games without being familiar with or having played HL1->
Half-Life 1 was NOT the genesis of PC gaming, or even the FPS. For you, maybe.

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Uzique
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CoD1 / UO / CoD2

unnamed, im not talking literally, or in historical terms...

i just think it is probably the most widely-referenced 'canonical' FPS. it's a must-play experience.

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Finray
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Nordemus wrote:

Splinter Cell should be around there too.
Ach, the only decent one was the one that was on PS2, the first one. Before Pandora tomorrow. Forget what it's called.
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Doctor Strangelove
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Aries_37 wrote:

Don't be sad if you weren't the right age to enjoy the zenith of the pokemon craze circa 1999.

Red/Blue > all

Back on topic, I'd second The Witcher EE
Making the game Balanced was an afterthought for the early Pokemon games. Psychic was the God-type that had no weaknesses and all the Psychic pokemon took prefect advantage of their STAB due to they all having excessive special attack.

Also no Special split made some Pokemon useless while others way OP. Gengar was one of the best special tanks and Charizard had pathetic stats, being unable to tank or sweep.

And most importantly was the lack of Physical/Special split. Gyarados got STAB with water moves and he had shit special [attack], while he had excellent physical attack, he couldn't make use of it because all his moves were special so he sucked.


New Pokemon games have perfected the gameplay. Now before you say "yeah well new Pokemon are shit" look at some of the Gen I, Weezing, Dodrio, Magneton and Dugtrio were literally just their pre-evolution with some other ones stuck onto them. And some many others had shit designs as well. WTF is Lickitung supposed to be? Jynx is pretty shit design. Mr.Mime is just dumb. Gen1 had just as many stupid Pokemon as any of the other generations.

I did play Gen1 as a kid, and I fucking loved it then. But I was a kid and now having played the newer, better games I see how bad the earlier games were. I would say it was just because they were from 1998, but all the problems I listed came from lazy design, not technological limitations.
FloppY_
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Uzique wrote:

CoD1 / UO / CoD2

unnamed, im not talking literally, or in historical terms...

i just think it is probably the most widely-referenced 'canonical' FPS. it's a must-play experience.
Adding COD1->2 as must trys











Any opinions on where to put Diablo II ?

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unnamednewbie13
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Uzique wrote:

CoD1 / UO / CoD2

unnamed, im not talking literally, or in historical terms...

i just think it is probably the most widely-referenced 'canonical' FPS. it's a must-play experience.
Literally is historical terms. I'm not dismissing HL in terms of popularity or sales (it ranks up there), but it is not the center of the PC gaming universe.

edit:

FloppY_ wrote:

ny opinions on where to put Diablo II ?
Worth a try. Diablo 3's coming out later, and this has been patched pretty solidly, but not everyone may be able to tolerate 2d (gasp) graphics.

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Uzique
dasein.
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deffo highly-rated.

but possibly in same niche as WoW, i.e. not entertaining or appealing to 'all' strata of gamer
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unnamednewbie13
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Uzique wrote:

deffo highly-rated.

but possibly in same niche as WoW, i.e. not entertaining or appealing to 'all' strata of gamer
If you wanted my honest opinion about it, I'd call it and the series it spawned a pillar of PC gaming, but it is not the foundation.
CammRobb
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err, deus ex? I've never played it but it's one of the great classics.
FloppY_
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CammRobb wrote:

err, deus ex? I've never played it but it's one of the great classics.
I played it, but due to tech issues never made it past level 1

from what I could tell, it was a HUGE leap compared to games of it's time, but I don't think I can add it to the list without proper first-hand reccomendations

EDIT: See this is what I wanted to avoid, all these (great but) old titles will make the list infinitely long

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deus ex is one of the best single-player FPS. just as good as HL1.
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Uzique wrote:

deus ex is one of the best single-player FPS. just as good as HL1.
/thread
Uzique
dasein.
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well, WoW is 6 years old now near-enough, and it's still more popular, prevalent and indeed relevant than any other game on that list

so i don't really see how 'age' or 'release date' comes into determining a game's 'worth'
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unnamednewbie13
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Uzique wrote:

well, WoW is 6 years old now near-enough, and it's still more popular, prevalent and indeed relevant than any other game on that list

so i don't really see how 'age' or 'release date' comes into determining a game's 'worth'
Subscription-fee games are a bit of a different animal than your ordinary computer game. There's so much to do and so much added that people keep coming back to them, even if it becomes more of a grind than fun. To paraphrase South Park, "you'll never catch the dragon!" Whether or not WoW is worth playing depends on the gamer you talk to (and your own personality), more than any media-wide consensus about it.

I don't usually let graphics stand in the way of playing a good game, but WoW struck out on me in the (late) beta. It looked like Warcraft 3 all zoomed in, it had no single player element and I could just watch the CGI or listen to the music online.
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Finray wrote:

Nordemus wrote:

Splinter Cell should be around there too.
Ach, the only decent one was the one that was on PS2, the first one. Before Pandora tomorrow. Forget what it's called.
Splinter cell
unnamednewbie13
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FloppY_ wrote:

EDIT: See this is what I wanted to avoid, all these (great but) old titles will make the list infinitely long
My recommendation:

*Turn (edit: tired yesterday) the "honorable mentions" section into "oldies but goldies."

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Uzique
dasein.
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saying an MMO "has no single-player" element is like saying a turn-based strategy has no "real-time action to it".

it's the measure of a good MMO when you're forced or at least encouraged to play with other people

you're a little too D2'ified
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FloppY_
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

EDIT: See this is what I wanted to avoid, all these (great but) old titles will make the list infinitely long
My recommendation:

Then the "honorable mentions" section into "oldies but goldies."
done
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Miggle
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FloppY_ wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

err, deus ex? I've never played it but it's one of the great classics.
I played it, but due to tech issues never made it past level 1

from what I could tell, it was a HUGE leap compared to games of it's time, but I don't think I can add it to the list without proper first-hand reccomendations

EDIT: See this is what I wanted to avoid, all these (great but) old titles will make the list infinitely long
what other games of it's time have you played? How can you say it was a huge leap? If anything the huge leap was downward for games after it's time.

Also lol at putting pokemon games on the PC Games worth playing list. What's next? Mario?
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Flecco
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Deus Ex rawked mah sawks.


And it wasn't a huge leap. If it had been a huge leap then games made since then might measure up to the rather deep gameplay mechanics it had going on in terms of the RPG parts, the ability to tackle every mission in a plethora of ways and shit like that...


It just stands out. Like no other fps before or since. Best singleplayer fps ever if you let it suck you in.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Miggle
FUCK UBISOFT
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Flecco wrote:

Deus Ex rawked mah sawks.


And it wasn't a huge leap. If it had been a huge leap then games made since then might measure up to the rather deep gameplay mechanics it had going on in terms of the RPG parts, the ability to tackle every mission in a plethora of ways and shit like that...


It just stands out. Like no other fps before or since. Best singleplayer fps ever if you let it suck you in.
Possibly the best FPSRPG of all time, though I'm more partial to SS2.

Not a huge leap though, plenty of fantastic games around then.
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Aries_37
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Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Aries_37 wrote:

Don't be sad if you weren't the right age to enjoy the zenith of the pokemon craze circa 1999.

Red/Blue > all

Back on topic, I'd second The Witcher EE
Making the game Balanced was an afterthought for the early Pokemon games. Psychic was the God-type that had no weaknesses and all the Psychic pokemon took prefect advantage of their STAB due to they all having excessive special attack.

Also no Special split made some Pokemon useless while others way OP. Gengar was one of the best special tanks and Charizard had pathetic stats, being unable to tank or sweep.

And most importantly was the lack of Physical/Special split. Gyarados got STAB with water moves and he had shit special [attack], while he had excellent physical attack, he couldn't make use of it because all his moves were special so he sucked.


New Pokemon games have perfected the gameplay. Now before you say "yeah well new Pokemon are shit" look at some of the Gen I, Weezing, Dodrio, Magneton and Dugtrio were literally just their pre-evolution with some other ones stuck onto them. And some many others had shit designs as well. WTF is Lickitung supposed to be? Jynx is pretty shit design. Mr.Mime is just dumb. Gen1 had just as many stupid Pokemon as any of the other generations.

I did play Gen1 as a kid, and I fucking loved it then. But I was a kid and now having played the newer, better games I see how bad the earlier games were. I would say it was just because they were from 1998, but all the problems I listed came from lazy design, not technological limitations.
Mate did you just diss Mr Mime? He'll bitch slap your ass



Seriously though I know the later games are miles better. They pretty much built and improved on the winning formula from red/blue. I'm talking from a strict nostalgia point of view so you can ignore me lol

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FloppY_ wrote:

The correct list:

Worth a buy - Must haves or you should atleast try them out before moving on!

- Mass Effect 2

- Fallout 3

- Empire: Total War

- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Worth a try - Some love them others loathe them

- Resident Evil 5

- Batman: Arkham Asylum

- Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City

- BioShock 2

- Dragon Age: Origins

- The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood

- Need for Speed Shift

- Left 4 Dead

- Left 4 Dead 2

Oldies but goldies - Games that are not recent but still worth a try!

- Black & White

- Half-Life 2

- Bioshock

- Unreal Tournament

- Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

- Starcraft

- Half-Life

- Homeworld

- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri

- The Sims

- F1 Challenge '99-'02

- Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow

- Madden NFL 2005

- The Orange Box

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