depends on the fans you use, certian rads are made for low flow fans, others for high flow.FloppY_ wrote:
Hmm... Well that certainly takes the "Watercooling is quieter than Air" argument out...max wrote:
Front panel with Xmas light
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Front.JPG
Dremeled in a tripple 120mm hole in the bottom for better airflow. Also dual pumps
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Bottom.JPG
Dual 360mm rads on top. Gotta build something better when I get around to it
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Rad%201.JPG
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Rad2.JPG
SLI goodness
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/SLI%201.JPG
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/SLI%202.JPG
New temp sensors. Readout on front. 2.5°C above ambient. I'm pleased
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/10051 … ensors.JPG
CPU block
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Block.JPG
The whole thing
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Inside.JPG
There are more fans on your rad's than my PC
And All that for CPU only?
Same applies to air cooling...Nic wrote:
depends on the fans you use, certian rads are made for low flow fans, others for high flow.FloppY_ wrote:
Hmm... Well that certainly takes the "Watercooling is quieter than Air" argument out...max wrote:
Front panel with Xmas light
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Front.JPG
Dremeled in a tripple 120mm hole in the bottom for better airflow. Also dual pumps
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Bottom.JPG
Dual 360mm rads on top. Gotta build something better when I get around to it
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Rad%201.JPG
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Rad2.JPG
SLI goodness
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/SLI%201.JPG
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/SLI%202.JPG
New temp sensors. Readout on front. 2.5°C above ambient. I'm pleased
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/10051 … ensors.JPG
CPU block
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Block.JPG
The whole thing
http://sneakysnowman.com/pictures/100510/Inside.JPG
There are more fans on your rad's than my PC
And All that for CPU only?
The only way to justify water cooling through the noise argument would be to refrigerate the rads rather than having air flowing to cool them.
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
water cooling is overrated, just cut larger holes in your case and use larger diameter fans of you're using a custom case, dammit.FloppY_ wrote:
Same applies to air cooling...Nic wrote:
depends on the fans you use, certian rads are made for low flow fans, others for high flow.FloppY_ wrote:
Hmm... Well that certainly takes the "Watercooling is quieter than Air" argument out...
There are more fans on your rad's than my PC
And All that for CPU only?
The only way to justify water cooling through the noise argument would be to refrigerate the rads rather than having air flowing to cool them.
Too bad.Freezer7Pro wrote:
I don't believe you.Sydney wrote:
So was my post...jeeeeeeez.Freezer7Pro wrote:
It's a joke. Christ.
Used, but it's like new, I mean it's not like they degrade like a car would with mileage ?presidentsheep wrote:
New/used?-Sh1fty- wrote:
How much could I get for selling this PC?
Corsair 650w PSU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz
4.00 GB DDR2
ASUS P5KPL-AM motherboard
ASUS Nvidia GTX260 core 216 896mb
G11 gaming Keyboard
G9 gaming mouse
BENQ 19'' LCD
Logitech 2.1 speakers with a nice bass
and either Vista or XP with it.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
yes they do-Sh1fty- wrote:
Used, but it's like new, I mean it's not like they degrade like a car would with mileage ?presidentsheep wrote:
New/used?-Sh1fty- wrote:
How much could I get for selling this PC?
Corsair 650w PSU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz
4.00 GB DDR2
ASUS P5KPL-AM motherboard
ASUS Nvidia GTX260 core 216 896mb
G11 gaming Keyboard
G9 gaming mouse
BENQ 19'' LCD
Logitech 2.1 speakers with a nice bass
and either Vista or XP with it.
How to reinstall OEM on a new mobo:GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
TBH, that depends on the OEM Vista. Mine has seen 5 different motherboards.Freezer7Pro wrote:
You can't install OEM Vista on a new mobo.S.Lythberg wrote:
How would i go about replacing my shitty old motherboard with a nice one with vista, i'm fairly sure it'll throw a fit if I just swap them, even with the new drivers installed. I've heard that Xp can reinstall itself, has anyone done this with vista? (note: vista came pre-installed, so there's no product key that I know of)
1. Call ms
2. You: "My motherboard broke and now windows dosn't work with my new one"
3. MS supporter: "Kindly etc etc etc -> here is new key"
4. ???
5. PROFIT
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
@Tdog2007 and others:
Originally it was supposed to be dual loops. One for the CPU, one for the GPUs. Then my GTX295 died. Still haven't gotten around to RMAing it. Didn't want to buy 3 blocks for my GTX260s now that fermi is out. So I went for massive overkill on the CPU. Still gotta love water temp 2.5°C above ambient. CPU load temp 50-53°C instead of the high 80s with a Noctua NH-U12P with high RPM fans. With the 1200RPM scythe slipstreams I use, the PC is near silent even under continuous load.
@FloppY_:
wat.
Originally it was supposed to be dual loops. One for the CPU, one for the GPUs. Then my GTX295 died. Still haven't gotten around to RMAing it. Didn't want to buy 3 blocks for my GTX260s now that fermi is out. So I went for massive overkill on the CPU. Still gotta love water temp 2.5°C above ambient. CPU load temp 50-53°C instead of the high 80s with a Noctua NH-U12P with high RPM fans. With the 1200RPM scythe slipstreams I use, the PC is near silent even under continuous load.
@FloppY_:
wat.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Meh P7P55 LX mobo I ordered was defective RMA'd and at least I didn't have to pay shipping <3 Newegg.
Last edited by TravisC555 (2010-05-10 19:23:50)
Not at all. Just because you can use low rpm fans with air cooling does not mean you can reach the same performance and temps as water. You can always argue that a cpu at stock or underclocked with a 140mm fan is quiter than WC. Simple fact is you can achieve a higher performance per Db with WC than with air. Hell you could underclock and use passive cooling with air if you wanted to use that argument.FloppY_ wrote:
Same applies to air cooling...Nic wrote:
depends on the fans you use, certian rads are made for low flow fans, others for high flow.FloppY_ wrote:
Hmm... Well that certainly takes the "Watercooling is quieter than Air" argument out...
There are more fans on your rad's than my PC
And All that for CPU only?
The only way to justify water cooling through the noise argument would be to refrigerate the rads rather than having air flowing to cool them.
Anyone here use Handbrake to batch convert .vob to .avi? I had a queue of 5 items earlier today and my computer crashed after the first one. But then I tried it again and it went fine. Right now I'm about to go to sleep and I have a queue of 40 items I'd like to run. Is this risky?
Each item is 22~23 min long, ~800 MB being condensed down to ~175.
Each item is 22~23 min long, ~800 MB being condensed down to ~175.
I tried testing with low rpm fans on highend air, the difference would be about 200mhz as i7 would run unjustifiedly too hot at >4.4GHz even with water.Nic wrote:
Not at all. Just because you can use low rpm fans with air cooling does not mean you can reach the same performance and temps as water. You can always argue that a cpu at stock or underclocked with a 140mm fan is quiter than WC. Simple fact is you can achieve a higher performance per Db with WC than with air. Hell you could underclock and use passive cooling with air if you wanted to use that argument.FloppY_ wrote:
Same applies to air cooling...Nic wrote:
depends on the fans you use, certian rads are made for low flow fans, others for high flow.
The only way to justify water cooling through the noise argument would be to refrigerate the rads rather than having air flowing to cool them.
The catch is if you put everything in a loop, then the price/cooling ratio improves. But CPU alone 250€ good wc kit vs 50€ Megahalems, you pay a lot for the last 200mhz, noise would be pretty much same as I would use same 800rpm fans anyway.
4.2GHz on decent i7 is doable on air with pretty low noise. After 3.6GHz performance differences are mostly in imagination as well.
Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-05-11 05:32:31)
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
Are you overclocked? Could be unstable at load for long periods of time.mtb0minime wrote:
Anyone here use Handbrake to batch convert .vob to .avi? I had a queue of 5 items earlier today and my computer crashed after the first one. But then I tried it again and it went fine. Right now I'm about to go to sleep and I have a queue of 40 items I'd like to run. Is this risky?
Each item is 22~23 min long, ~800 MB being condensed down to ~175.
;__________;
Meh, overclock, never bothered except for GPU "auto"GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
I tried testing with low rpm fans on highend air, the difference would be about 200mhz as i7 would run unjustifiedly too hot at >4.4GHz even with water.Nic wrote:
Not at all. Just because you can use low rpm fans with air cooling does not mean you can reach the same performance and temps as water. You can always argue that a cpu at stock or underclocked with a 140mm fan is quiter than WC. Simple fact is you can achieve a higher performance per Db with WC than with air. Hell you could underclock and use passive cooling with air if you wanted to use that argument.FloppY_ wrote:
Same applies to air cooling...
The only way to justify water cooling through the noise argument would be to refrigerate the rads rather than having air flowing to cool them.
The catch is if you put everything in a loop, then the price/cooling ratio improves. But CPU alone 250€ good wc kit vs 50€ Megahalems, you pay a lot for the last 200mhz, noise would be pretty much same as I would use same 800rpm fans anyway.
4.2GHz on decent i7 is doable on air with pretty low noise. After 3.6GHz performance differences are mostly in imagination as well.
my god those are flimsy...
Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-05-11 08:01:21)
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
FloppY_ wrote:
Meh, overclock, never bothered except for GPU "auto"
Yeah no shit.FloppY_ wrote:
my god those are flimsy...
Meh lol all you want it's just impractical when you take it to the max with temps and unnoticeable if you only do it slightly...Finray wrote:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5823329/Misc/BF2s/lol.PNGFloppY_ wrote:
Meh, overclock, never bothered except for GPU "auto"Yeah no shit.FloppY_ wrote:
my god those are flimsy...
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
That's 28% performance increase at 1280x1024, 12% performance boost at 1680x1050 and 4% increase (so little due to being GPU bottlenecked) for no extra cost. Why NOT do it?
5 fps?Finray wrote:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/T/F/216195 … Crysis.png
That's 28% performance increase at 1280x1024, 12% performance boost at 1680x1050 and 4% increase (so little due to being GPU bottlenecked) for no extra cost. Why NOT do it?
Woo fucking hoo...
I'd rather keep stock speeds and not have to verify / bother with stability...
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
This... The place I see the most noise loss is on the gpu, those stock 5850 fans are ridiculously loud. I still haven't found a preferred fan though.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
I tried testing with low rpm fans on highend air, the difference would be about 200mhz as i7 would run unjustifiedly too hot at >4.4GHz even with water.Nic wrote:
Not at all. Just because you can use low rpm fans with air cooling does not mean you can reach the same performance and temps as water. You can always argue that a cpu at stock or underclocked with a 140mm fan is quiter than WC. Simple fact is you can achieve a higher performance per Db with WC than with air. Hell you could underclock and use passive cooling with air if you wanted to use that argument.FloppY_ wrote:
Same applies to air cooling...
The only way to justify water cooling through the noise argument would be to refrigerate the rads rather than having air flowing to cool them.
The catch is if you put everything in a loop, then the price/cooling ratio improves. But CPU alone 250€ good wc kit vs 50€ Megahalems, you pay a lot for the last 200mhz, noise would be pretty much same as I would use same 800rpm fans anyway.
4.2GHz on decent i7 is doable on air with pretty low noise. After 3.6GHz performance differences are mostly in imagination as well.
Sorta depends on the application.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
4.2GHz on decent i7 is doable on air with pretty low noise. After 3.6GHz performance differences are mostly in imagination as well.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
wat
What kind of silent power supply have you got for all that? My Corsair TX850 is disappointingly noisymax wrote:
@Tdog2007 and others:
Originally it was supposed to be dual loops. One for the CPU, one for the GPUs. Then my GTX295 died. Still haven't gotten around to RMAing it. Didn't want to buy 3 blocks for my GTX260s now that fermi is out. So I went for massive overkill on the CPU. Still gotta love water temp 2.5°C above ambient. CPU load temp 50-53°C instead of the high 80s with a Noctua NH-U12P with high RPM fans. With the 1200RPM scythe slipstreams I use, the PC is near silent even under continuous load.
@FloppY_:
wat.
