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11 Bravo wrote:

Varegg wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

i bet you did...or somewhat eluded to it.  or lol'd/karma'd someone for saying it.  or said it with some goofy emoticon.

So run along and find it then smartass ...

However lolling a comment and to actually mean Bush is a facist is two different things ... to humorously call Obama a facist and like lowing actually believe he is are the same kind of idiom ...

so what if he does? it has nothing to do with the OP anyway does it?

and you shouldnt name call, mr mod.

Seeing as it concerns the most number posts in this thread I see no reason that it doesn't belong here ...

Smartass was a remark concerning your type of posting, if I wanted to name call you I would have used a phrase like dumbass ...

bubbles didn't really troll lowing in particular.

i wouldnt really call it a 'debate', there's been nothing to argue.

more like elementary class

the 4 page exposition on the meaning of 'neo' has been a pretty fun class though, wouldnt you agree kids?

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

That still doesn't make the "Obama is a fascist" argument anything short of hilariously wrong.

I posted the definition and then posted his action that is described that that definition. You saying it is weong is hardly an argument. Try disqualifying it based on the definition.

And Kmarion fairly conclusively showed that the Obama administration does not share the characteristics of fascism, which were pretty to clear to see in places like Mussolini's Italy and to a lesser extent Hitler's Germany.

But OK

1.  often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

What I've highlighted is basically everything he is conclusively not, and even the "centralization of authority" charge is tenuous to say the least. But hey - it is a system of government.

fascism [ˈfæʃɪzəm]
n (sometimes capital)1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc., that may be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist, authoritarian, etc.

now try the same thing using the definition I posted......and please stop with the fuckin Hitler references...fascist does not mean Hitler

Varegg wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Seeing as it concerns the most number posts in this thread I see no reason that it doesn't belong here ...

since when?  o rite cuz it is lowing.

Since lowing entered the thread the majority of the debate has been about terminology ...

and to think it all started by me simply questioning "neoliberal".

Problem is, this forum is so full of irratational hate for my posts, or maybe even me, that I can't say anything with out it being attacked.
I could say the sky is blue and there would be eleven bravo calling me  a racist ( and insisting I prove him wrong ) ruis would dissect the statement into 4 different arguments and insist I define sky and blue, and that other idiot, who knows what he would say, something brilliant I am sure.  It is all getting alittle rediculous.

Last edited by lowing (2010-05-05 06:08:55)

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

I posted the definition and then posted his action that is described that that definition. You saying it is weong is hardly an argument. Try disqualifying it based on the definition.

And Kmarion fairly conclusively showed that the Obama administration does not share the characteristics of fascism, which were pretty to clear to see in places like Mussolini's Italy and to a lesser extent Hitler's Germany.

But OK

1.  often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

What I've highlighted is basically everything he is conclusively not, and even the "centralization of authority" charge is tenuous to say the least. But hey - it is a system of government.

now try the same thing using the definition I posted......and please stop with the fuckin Hitler references...fascist does not mean Hitler

Hitler was a fascist. Not as pure a fascist as Mussolini, granted, but a fascist nonetheless.

And what makes your definition so much better than my two? (What was your definition anyway, I don't really feel like trawling this thread)

The point is, Obamas actions are fascist....that is not to say Obama is hitler or even Mussolini.

fascist govts take control over private industry..Obama has done that.
fascist govts. control media. Obama has the media in his hands, and also review the fairness doctrine. I already linked it once easy to find on the net.

Obama has made bias toward race....I gave you what he said with regard to henry lewis gates ( the nutty professor) as well as the ft hood shooter.

go to dictionary.com and type in fascism.

Dilbert_X wrote:

the point is lowing hasn't changed his mind.

so what?

Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

the point is lowing hasn't changed his mind.

so what?

Did you even read the OP?

yup.

usm wrote:

yup.

Did you read this bit?

I think it would be interesting to know how much of an effect (if any) D&ST's debates and flame wars have had on people over the years.

Now read this again

Dilbert_X wrote:

the point is lowing hasn't changed his mind.

Read them again.

And again.

Have a rest.

And again.

Are we there yet?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-05-05 06:23:18)

The point is lowing never changes his mind about anything.
15 pages on I would have thought that was clear.

Dilbert_X wrote:

The point is lowing never changes his mind about anything.
15 pages on I would have thought that was clear.

none of you do.

The only string is they have to pay the money back....