[D&ST Political Slider 2010]

2010-05-01 03:35:04

#1

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,056|7057|PNW

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...from (state previous alignment; current, if unchanged): ________________
Definitions of the above terms open to interpretation.

Influences (threads, linked articles and/or people that may have swayed you): ________________

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If unchanged, specify which and, if you wish, why.

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I think it would be interesting to know how much of an effect (if any) D&ST's debates and flame wars have had on people over the years.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2010-05-01 03:43:58)

2010-05-01 03:44:11

#2

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6507|teh FIN-land

no option for they haven't changed?

2010-05-01 03:46:13

#3

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Probably haven't shifted that much.
I have learnt there really are right-wing crazies who queue up to drink the kool-aid, and people who still swallow the idea that Iraq was about WMD

Fuck Israel

2010-05-01 03:59:53

#4

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

Definite and rather large swing from left/far-left to centre, part left, part right, part off-spectrum. A few of my views on issues have done the complete flip l->r, a few more have moved off the spectrum entirely.

It'll take me a while longer to quantify why.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-05-01 04:01:16

#5

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6906|London, England

Not really, maybe I've gone from being black/white on issues to being more independent and looking at issues differently

2010-05-01 05:47:42

#6

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

I think i have a better undertanding of (american) conservatism, and have had some pretty elucidatory/entertaining insights into their mentality.

personally i'm always a libertarian on the up/down scale. i sway from left to right depending on the issue - so i guess i could fit into centrist.

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2010-05-01 05:50:15

#7

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Dilbert_X wrote:
I have learnt there really are right-wing crazies who queue up to drink the kool-aid, and people who still swallow the idea that Iraq was about WMD

Uzique wrote:
I think i have a better undertanding of (american) conservatism, and have had some pretty elucidatory/entertaining insights into their mentality.

Ok Uzique put it better, but I can fix cars.

Fuck Israel

2010-05-01 07:22:45

#8

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7095|Nårvei

Uzique wrote:
I think i have a better undertanding of (american) conservatism, and have had some pretty elucidatory/entertaining insights into their mentality.

personally i'm always a libertarian on the up/down scale. i sway from left to right depending on the issue - so i guess i could fit into centrist.

Quote of the day ...

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2010-05-01 07:37:32

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Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

'Right' and 'Left' mean very little. Are you talking about economic or social policy? They aren't the same by any means. It's better to use the political compass concept with cardinal directions, North, East, South, West with variants in between.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-05-01 07:39:19

#10

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

... yeah, see my post, 5 posts ago.

MENSA doing you well?

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2010-05-01 07:40:28

#11

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5987|College Park, MD

Went from moderate left to center to moderate left.

Influences: good stuff on here, newspapers, magazines (real ones like The Economist, not some shitty tabloid where morons give their two cents on politics), internets etc

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2010-05-01 07:40:45

#12

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6808|...

more of a quadrant rather than a slider

2010-05-01 07:42:12

#13

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

i dunno lol

2010-05-01 07:44:43

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Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5987|College Park, MD

11 Bravo wrote:
i dunno lol

you're a little left of karl marx

2010-05-01 07:45:38

#15

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6934

What Uzi said.

2010-05-01 07:47:22

#16

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Went from moderate left to center to moderate left.

Influences: good stuff on here, newspapers, magazines (real ones like The Economist, not some shitty tabloid where morons give their two cents on politics), internets etc

the economist is pretty much neo-liberal... you swayed left?

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2010-05-01 07:48:10

#17

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5987|College Park, MD

Uzique wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Went from moderate left to center to moderate left.

Influences: good stuff on here, newspapers, magazines (real ones like The Economist, not some shitty tabloid where morons give their two cents on politics), internets etc
the economist is pretty much neo-liberal... you swayed left?

convinced me healthcare reform = good

idk

i still say we execute every motherfucker who rapes or kills so there's that

what the hell is neo-liberal?

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2010-05-01 07:49:26

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Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Uzique wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Went from moderate left to center to moderate left.

Influences: good stuff on here, newspapers, magazines (real ones like The Economist, not some shitty tabloid where morons give their two cents on politics), internets etc
the economist is pretty much neo-liberal... you swayed left?
convinced me healthcare reform = good

idk

i still say we execute every motherfucker who rapes or kills so there's that

what the hell is neo-liberal?

Look up F.A. Hayek and Milton Friedman.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-05-01 07:50:21)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-05-01 07:50:05

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6438|what

I think my Authoritarian/Libertarian point on the typical political compass became better defined.

I learned that left and right is too simple a view on most issues.

2010-05-01 07:51:24

#20

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

i believe, in american usage at least, that it refers to the reintroduction of REAL liberalism (economically, for the most part) to an american partisan-politics system that had misappropriated the term and transformed it into an ugly misnomer. 'liberal' has been a dirty term - a pejorative - for a long time in america, despite not actually referring to any values remotely linked to classical liberalism. hence, the resurgence is a 'neo'-phenomenon.

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2010-05-01 07:52:44

#21

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6906|London, England

Yeah, they use the word liberal as an insult, well the conservatives do. It's catching on here too. Which is abit of a laugh, people over here think they can identify with that american style of politics and conservatism, lol.

2010-05-01 07:59:08

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6438|what

Uzique wrote:
i believe, in american usage at least, that it refers to the reintroduction of REAL liberalism (economically, for the most part) to an american partisan-politics system that had misappropriated the term and transformed it into an ugly misnomer. 'liberal' has been a dirty term - a pejorative - for a long time in america, despite not actually referring to any values remotely linked to classical liberalism. hence, the resurgence is a 'neo'-phenomenon.

It's something that's continued since the McCarthy era of Reds under the Beds imo, however that nasty term, "Socialism" is getting more usage these days too. It's quite funny.

Then again, I'm getting sick of out Liberal politians in Australia calling themselves "Economic Conservatives" to appease the moderate voters who simply latch on to the term Conservative and think it's who they should support.

2010-05-01 08:03:38

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6934

I do love it how Socialism = Hitler in the US.

2010-05-01 08:05:39

#24

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6782

ghettoperson wrote:
I do love it how Socialism = Hitler in the US.

only for the stupid ones. a big % i'll admit, but yeah . . .

2010-05-01 08:06:54

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11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

ghettoperson wrote:
I do love it how Socialism = Hitler in the US.

k bash the US stuff in some other thread as usual kthx.

Far Left	9%	9% - 6
Left	7%	7% - 5
Moderate Left	19%	19% - 12
Center (more or less)	26%	26% - 17
Moderate Right	9%	9% - 6
Right	19%	19% - 12
Far Right	7%	7% - 5
Total: 63

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