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Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

It clearly is comparable. It's less extreme, but it's the same point. It also clearly and concisely answers the question you just posed.

no, there is not a damn thing unhealthy about red meat.  thats what humans eat.  always have.

That's not true at all.

The amount of meat in peoples diets, particularly in the west is completely disproportionate to what people have historically eaten and to what our bodies are evolved to cope with. Modern levels of red meat intake are responsible for high levels of bowel cancer.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

no, there is not a damn thing unhealthy about red meat.  thats what humans eat.  always have.

That's not true at all.

The amount of meat in peoples diets, particularly in the west is completely disproportionate to what people have historically eaten and to what our bodies are evolved to cope with. Modern levels of red meat intake are responsible for high levels of bowel cancer.

Oh, you're a doctor now? Perhaps a dietician? Have you done the socio-paleontology research to back up your claims? How do you know that what you've been told is true without having done the testing yourself? See how this can be turned around on you? Be less of a douche and people might actually, I dunno, like you.

11 Bravo wrote:

just trying to figure it out here....do we care about the health of kids or marketing to kids?  cuz if its health this argument fails.

Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

That's not true at all.

The amount of meat in peoples diets, particularly in the west is completely disproportionate to what people have historically eaten and to what our bodies are evolved to cope with. Modern levels of red meat intake are responsible for high levels of bowel cancer.

ya well aint gonna be a vegan so.....

Nor am I - I love red meat. I eat loads of it.

Doesn't make it good for me.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

no, there is not a damn thing unhealthy about red meat.  thats what humans eat.  always have.

That's not true at all.

The amount of meat in peoples diets, particularly in the west is completely disproportionate to what people have historically eaten and to what our bodies are evolved to cope with. Modern levels of red meat intake are responsible for high levels of bowel cancer.

Oh, you're a doctor now? Perhaps a dietician? Have you done the socio-paleontology research to back up your claims? How do you know that what you've been told is true without having done the testing yourself? See how this can be turned around on you? Be less of a douche and people might actually, I dunno, like you.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

no...it is not.  sorry man, aint going to buy that one.

Yes it is.

I've explained how they are the same, now you explain how they differ - except in the level of their impact.

You're talking about a necessary item required to sustain life (food, red meat is food) and calling it addictive? Is water addictive too? What about salt? Sunlight? How about exercise, is that addictive too? I know I'm addicted to breathing. I should kick that nasty habit

Varegg wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

That's not true at all.

The amount of meat in peoples diets, particularly in the west is completely disproportionate to what people have historically eaten and to what our bodies are evolved to cope with. Modern levels of red meat intake are responsible for high levels of bowel cancer.

Oh, you're a doctor now? Perhaps a dietician? Have you done the socio-paleontology research to back up your claims? How do you know that what you've been told is true without having done the testing yourself? See how this can be turned around on you? Be less of a douche and people might actually, I dunno, like you.

Should be common knowledge if you at all are somewhat interested in what you stuff in your mouth ... and if it's good for you ... doesn't have to be a doctor to comprehend that ...

And how about keeping a civil tone, if you have to turn to being offensive I suggest you log out and come back later ...

11 Bravo wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

humans need red meat to be healthy imo.  dont need cigs to be healthy.  never saw that on any food pyramid tbh.

Red meat was not what I drew the comparison to. It was low grade fast food.

People don't need crappy fast food to be healthy.

low grade...i dunno.  can find the same stuff in the market tbh.  not whole foods or something that cost 15 bucks a pound but the stuff people buy for bbq's.

Bertster7 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

As I just pointed out, I never called red meat addictive.

I called low grade fast food addictive. Which it is.

Because it's food. People equate fast food with food. It's what they've been taught so yes, they are going to go and eat it. Since we require food as humans, and some humans equate McDonald's with food, it stands to reason that since all humans are addicted to food, some will be addicted to the food they know, McDonald's.

Which is yet another reason it is so bad.

Food is there for nourishment. If people are having their appetites satisfied with stuff that has little to no nutritional benefit, that is a bad thing. Particularly if it is laced with additives to make it addictive.

The reason it is the food they know, is because of targeted marketing.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Because it's food. People equate fast food with food. It's what they've been taught so yes, they are going to go and eat it. Since we require food as humans, and some humans equate McDonald's with food, it stands to reason that since all humans are addicted to food, some will be addicted to the food they know, McDonald's.

Which is yet another reason it is so bad.

Food is there for nourishment. If people are having their appetites satisfied with stuff that has little to no nutritional benefit, that is a bad thing. Particularly if it is laced with additives to make it addictive.

The reason it is the food they know, is because of targeted marketing.

No, how about it's the food they know because the restaurant is in their town. The Chinese food place three blocks from me doesn't have massive ad campaigns, it's just a hole in the wall but I know that it's food so I go there for lunch every so often. Same for the Taco King two doors down but I don't eat there because Mexican food made by Chinese just doesn't work for me.

Point is, advertising is not necessary to sell a product. Word of mouth alone is sufficient for 90% of the businesses that exist. I don't need a television ad to tell me what food is, my parents did that for me when I was a child.