FatherTed
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The Sheriff wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Also, Top Gun is worse than Baggs and his shit-wagon of friends.
Take that back you prick, or else.
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pace51 wrote:

Yes, but they have to return early, anyways. So, wait, chase, smash.
You don't get the idea. Phantom requires concrete runway while mig can operate from dirt runways, having concrete runways at his home airfield though. This tactic is called "usage of jump runway" in russian, dunno how it is  translated properly in english. The idea is to refuel near frontline and join the battle while having superiority duration of flight due to full fuel tanks compared to large and heavy aircraft that can't land/take off from dirt runways and have to fly a few hundred/thousand kilomethers from their main airfield without any refuel close to frontline. That way, aircraft with theoretically smaller operating radius recieve advantage over their more heavy opponents even taking into account their theoretically longer duration of flight.

p/s I'm not taking airtankers into account as they were not used that much for refueling jet fighters during Mig-21 vs Phantom II era.

Last edited by Longbow (2010-04-30 06:21:42)

pace51
Boom?
+194|5165|Markham, Ontario

Longbow wrote:

pace51 wrote:

Yes, but they have to return early, anyways. So, wait, chase, smash.
You don't get the idea. Phantom requires concrete runway while mig can operate from dirt runways, having concrete runways at his home airfield though. This tactic is called "usage of jump runway" in russian, dunno how it is  translated properly in english. The idea is to refuel near frontline and join the battle while having superiority duration of flight due to full fuel tanks compared to large and heavy aircraft that can't land/take off from dirt runways and have to fly a few hundred/thousand kilomethers from their main airfield without any refuel close to frontline. That way, aircraft with theoretically smaller operating radius recieve advantage over their more heavy opponents even taking into account their theoretically longer duration of flight.

p/s I'm not taking airtankers into account as they were not used that much for refueling jet fighters during Mig-21 vs Phantom II era.
Ohhh. You're right. My mistake. So that would "balance" the combat between migs and phatoms, so to speak.
RAIMIUS
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Longbow wrote:

p/s I'm not taking airtankers into account as they were not used that much for refueling jet fighters during Mig-21 vs Phantom II era.
Maybe on the Soviet side...
The US made some very extensive use of tankers in Vietnam.  Some of them even managed to "tow" aircraft back to safe landing areas.
Stubbee
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+223|6735|Reality

RAIMIUS wrote:

Longbow wrote:

p/s I'm not taking airtankers into account as they were not used that much for refueling jet fighters during Mig-21 vs Phantom II era.
Maybe on the Soviet side...
The US made some very extensive use of tankers in Vietnam.  Some of them even managed to "tow" aircraft back to safe landing areas.
In Korea one F86 pilot pushed his wingman, whose fuel tanks were hit were damaged, but unfortunately the guy drowned, tangled in his parachute harness. The f-86 pilot had to dead stick at his airfield.

In Vietnam, one f-4 pushed another (canopy/tail-hook.) Both planes were lost but both crews were rescued.
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
RAIMIUS
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Stubbee wrote:

RAIMIUS wrote:

Longbow wrote:

p/s I'm not taking airtankers into account as they were not used that much for refueling jet fighters during Mig-21 vs Phantom II era.
Maybe on the Soviet side...
The US made some very extensive use of tankers in Vietnam.  Some of them even managed to "tow" aircraft back to safe landing areas.
In Korea one F86 pilot pushed his wingman, whose fuel tanks were hit were damaged, but unfortunately the guy drowned, tangled in his parachute harness. The f-86 pilot had to dead stick at his airfield.

In Vietnam, one f-4 pushed another (canopy/tail-hook.) Both planes were lost but both crews were rescued.
I've heard the Vietnam one.  Hadn't heard the Korea one.  Interesting.

KC-135s occassionally towed BADLY damaged F-4s and F-105s on the boom.
seymorebutts443
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So lets see some proof of all your claims guys.
RAIMIUS
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+244|6707|US
http://www.codeonemagazine.com/archives … n93_p.html has some good info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardo's_Push

And some interesting A-1 Skyraider stories... http://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2009 … llers.html

Last edited by RAIMIUS (2010-05-03 16:46:08)

pace51
Boom?
+194|5165|Markham, Ontario
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/52201/cheetah_2.jpg
Guess !

Last edited by pace51 (2010-05-03 16:35:28)

pace51
Boom?
+194|5165|Markham, Ontario

nukchebi0 wrote:

Yf-22.
Ummm... not exactly.
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6358|California
Tiger 47
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|5991|The Mitten
cheetah
EE (hats
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6358|California

Morpheus wrote:

cheetah
chiger 37 it has to be
pace51
Boom?
+194|5165|Markham, Ontario

Morpheus wrote:

cheetah
Got it!
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|5991|The Mitten

pace51 wrote:

[url]http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/52201/cheetah_2.jpg[/url]
Guess !
i r winrar.

https://www.fotothing.com/photos/18f/18f6f9c87b613dbf65df4fd66ef6a413_b09.jpg
there. shouldn't be too hard.

Last edited by Morpheus (2010-05-03 16:49:56)

EE (hats
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6358|California

Morpheus wrote:

pace51 wrote:

[url]http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/52201/cheetah_2.jpg[/url]
Guess !
i r winrar.
GOD DAMNIT I THOUGHT I WOULD AT LEAST WIN AT BF2S SINCE I ALWAYS LOSE AT DRAWING GRRRRRRAHHHHHHHH
pace51
Boom?
+194|5165|Markham, Ontario
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/52201/SaabJ29Tunnan.jpg
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6358|California
SaabJ29Tunnan.jpg
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,736|6729|Oxferd Ohire
you really should name those pics something other than the aircraft name...looking at live gives away the answer if you actually arent trying to cheat
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6316|New Haven, CT
Saab J29, it seems.
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|5991|The Mitten

Morpheus wrote:

pace51 wrote:

[url]http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/52201/cheetah_2.jpg[/url]
Guess !
i r winrar.

https://www.fotothing.com/photos/18f/18f6f9c87b613dbf65df4fd66ef6a413_b09.jpg
there. shouldn't be too hard.
EE (hats
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6358|California
wow morph what an excellent plane name, 18f6f9c87b613dbf65df4fd66ef6a413_b09.jpg, what is the origin? japan? i knew it
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6316|New Haven, CT
Is it a Eurofighter?
FatherTed
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along with the first jet engine

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