BF2S Forums Fuck Happy Meals

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

guys i think the law targets the kind of 'evil marketing' and cheap tactics more so than aiming to enforce any sort of dietary regime.

kind of like banning the tobacco industry from sponsoring formula one racing.

you're free to eat what you want but they just dont want companies using any form of subliminal or questionable methods to sell their calorific feasts

Look around, kids still smoke.

banning tabacco sponsoring from formula one racing is not going to stop smoking entirely just as banning toys from being sold along with unhealthy food is not going to revert every obese child back to normal in a flash

Big problem. Lots of small steps.

The cops in Santa Clara County carry two loaded M4A1 rifles in every squad car, it's

fuck 'em

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It's not dishonest marketing. You're getting a greasy cheeseburger, greasy salty fries and a toy. No amount of fluff McD puts on it can avert sensible eyes from that fact and if people choose to ignore that, chances are their diet is already far gone with all the junk food they get from the freaking grocery store.

Edit: Anyone see the EA Games unlocks on Dr. Pepper bottles?

Kids are hardly sensible. All they see is the toy and that's reason enough for them to want to get the Happy Meal. And what with parents being soft-hearted 'friends of children' nowadays, you end up with kids eating crappy food and not giving a shit because they have a fancy new toy to play with for 5 minutes.

Dietary needs are not a child's priority, therefore the parent is responsible for ensuring the child eats healthily. And when the parent fails, someone has to step in.

While we're at it, let's take away all responsibility for the parents. Lets take all children born and place them in state run orphanages where they will receive the prescribed amount of hugs per day, are given equal amounts of food, are all given a uniform to wear so that no one can make fun of their clothing, equal access to education, health care and time with a psychologist to root out their antisocial behavior. Lets take it one step further and genetically engineer all children so they have the same IQ, the same skin color and are the same size so that no one is bullied, no one does better in class than anyone else and no one can be stereotyped based on the color of their skin. Fuck it, lets just neuter everyone at birth and instead of producing children the old fashioned way, we'll just clone the perfect specimens, one male, one female, and not have to worry about anyone being 'disadvantaged' ever again.

JohnG@lt wrote:

While we're at it, let's take away all responsibility for the parents. Lets take all children born and place them in state run orphanages where they will receive the prescribed amount of hugs per day, are given equal amounts of food, are all given a uniform to wear so that no one can make fun of their clothing, equal access to education, health care and time with a psychologist to root out their antisocial behavior. Lets take it one step further and genetically engineer all children so they have the same IQ, the same skin color and are the same size so that no one is bullied, no one does better in class than anyone else and no one can be stereotyped based on the color of their skin. Fuck it, lets just neuter everyone at birth and instead of producing children the old fashioned way, we'll just clone the perfect specimens, one male, one female, and not have to worry about anyone being 'disadvantaged' ever again.

oh please shut up. talk about reductio ad absurdum. your post fails hard.

ATG wrote:

I ask in all seriousness, wtf is this thread about?

well originally it was about bannig the toys in happy meals, which I thought was a great idea, and some otheres seem warm to the idea too, but then some people like galt seem to think that banning toys from McDs is the first step on the road to a fascist nazi regime brewing a new generation via eugenics or some shit totally unrelated to the original thread, so at this point your guess is as good as mine.

I honestly do NOT see what the problem is with banning these toys. No-one has demonstrated any remotely logical argument as to why the ban should not come into place. They're only made in china plastic shite anyway ffs.

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JohnG@lt wrote:

While we're at it, let's take away all responsibility for the parents. Lets take all children born and place them in state run orphanages where they will receive the prescribed amount of hugs per day, are given equal amounts of food, are all given a uniform to wear so that no one can make fun of their clothing, equal access to education, health care and time with a psychologist to root out their antisocial behavior. Lets take it one step further and genetically engineer all children so they have the same IQ, the same skin color and are the same size so that no one is bullied, no one does better in class than anyone else and no one can be stereotyped based on the color of their skin. Fuck it, lets just neuter everyone at birth and instead of producing children the old fashioned way, we'll just clone the perfect specimens, one male, one female, and not have to worry about anyone being 'disadvantaged' ever again.

oh come on galt.

you can do better than that.

tbh without any actual evidence your post just looks like fairly shallow rantings.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Tetrino wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It's not dishonest marketing. You're getting a greasy cheeseburger, greasy salty fries and a toy. No amount of fluff McD puts on it can avert sensible eyes from that fact and if people choose to ignore that, chances are their diet is already far gone with all the junk food they get from the freaking grocery store.

Edit: Anyone see the EA Games unlocks on Dr. Pepper bottles?

Kids are hardly sensible. All they see is the toy and that's reason enough for them to want to get the Happy Meal. And what with parents being soft-hearted 'friends of children' nowadays, you end up with kids eating crappy food and not giving a shit because they have a fancy new toy to play with for 5 minutes.

Dietary needs are not a child's priority, therefore the parent is responsible for ensuring the child eats healthily. And when the parent fails, someone has to step in.

No, if the parent fails, the kid fails, if the kid fails they don't pass on their genes and the bloodline dies. It's not the governments fucking job to step in and tell people how they should run their lives. Fuck you for actually believing that it should.

Way to attack the messenger.

If it's not the government's job to tell people how to run their lives, what the hell are laws put in place for? I wanted to grow up burning random apartment complexes, but the government put in laws telling me if I burn shit, I'll get punished for it. The very idea of a government is to govern the country, and the main component of a country is its populace. And consider that technically, in this case the legislation isn't telling people how to run their lives and families, it's telling corporations how to not boost their product by pandering to the whims of children when the product isn't a merit good.

JohnG@lt wrote:

While we're at it, let's take away all responsibility for the parents. Lets take all children born and place them in state run orphanages where they will receive the prescribed amount of hugs per day, are given equal amounts of food, are all given a uniform to wear so that no one can make fun of their clothing, equal access to education, health care and time with a psychologist to root out their antisocial behavior. Lets take it one step further and genetically engineer all children so they have the same IQ, the same skin color and are the same size so that no one is bullied, no one does better in class than anyone else and no one can be stereotyped based on the color of their skin. Fuck it, lets just neuter everyone at birth and instead of producing children the old fashioned way, we'll just clone the perfect specimens, one male, one female, and not have to worry about anyone being 'disadvantaged' ever again.

If you're going to take that route, let's take it your way. Obviously the parent is the key to a child's upbringing, so let's enforce that by removing the pediatrics department from every hospital. Schools, too. It's the parent's job to educate and nurture the child, how can they delegate that responsibility to others? If the parent screws up, then whoop de doo, bye bye bloodline. Their own problem.

Survival of the fittest is an outdated concept and our ascending beyond that is what separates us from base animals. If you're going to go into eugenics then you're hardly better than creatures that will murder the young of others just so their offspring have a ridiculously slight advantage.

11 Bravo wrote:

Tetrino wrote:

it's telling corporations how to not boost their product by pandering to the whims of children when the product isn't a merit good.

HA!

might as well pull most cereal boxes off the shelves then right?

Depending on the nutritional content. Contrary to popular belief, cereals are more nutritious than the boxes they're packaged in. And I don't know about you, but I'd wager that a bowl of cereal would be better for a child than chicken nuggets and fries.

They should remove the word happy from the meal name. May give kids an impression if they get one they'll be far happier.

some americans try way too fucking hard to stick to their absurd, arbitrary ideological guidelines...

look, it's a VERY SIMPLE precedent: kids are idiots. kids see bright awesome toy. kids put pressure on parents to have toy despite the dietary choice being... less than great. it's not about parents giving away their responsibility or shirking away from their role in place of faceless corporations; it's just that the happy meal idea either encourages shitty eating habits in children subliminally/ostensibly, or puts parents in shitty, difficult and awkward situations: give the kid the toy and keep them happy, or appear to be an asshole parent for denying your kid something they want for a reason that, essentially, they won't understand. macdonalds make enough profit and can sell enough burgers without using the carrot-on-a-stick that is a toy. if you don't understand it and you're getting all THIS IS AGAINST MAW CUNSTEETUSHUN then move to a fucking commune in the rocky moubntains and live on deer or some shit.