Ronald Reagan

2010-04-16 02:36:08

#1

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6930

An amazing man that spoke the truth...

I met him in 1987 at his ranch and shook his hand... I will never forget it...
He believed in the American Dream and loved our great country.
Limited Government that worked for the people...
Does anyone think Obama is making the US a better country than Ronald Reagan did while President?

Love is the answer

2010-04-16 02:57:40

#2

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6930

Here's Bill Clinton...

I actually like Bill Clinton to a certain degree... just thought this was a funny video.

Love is the answer

2010-04-16 03:09:51

#3

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6989|Moscow, Russia

Catbox wrote:
He believed in the American Dream and loved our great country.
Limited Government that worked for the people.

so much nonsence in just a coupla phrases - wow! i think you've outdone even the great and mighty lowing here, dude.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-04-16 03:16:12

#4

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6930

Focus on what Reagan said... not me
Are you saying you don't believe in your Country and aren't proud of it?
And you think that a bloated inefficient govt... who's only answer is to raise taxes... is a good thing?

Love is the answer

2010-04-16 03:39:43

#5

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6989|Moscow, Russia

Catbox wrote:
Focus on what Reagan said... not me

reagan said just what he was supposed to say. you, however, is supposedly posting your actual views here.

Catbox wrote:
Are you saying you don't believe in your Country and aren't proud of it?

i'm saying that being proud of a "Country" is completely idiotic. so yes, i'm not proud of mine - not one bit.

Catbox wrote:
And you think that a bloated inefficient govt... who's only answer is to raise taxes... is a good thing?

no, i'm saying that there isn't and never was a government who "worked for the people".

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-04-16 04:24:17

#6

jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6737|...

Shahter wrote:
no, i'm saying that there isn't and never was a government who "worked for the people".

this +1

2010-04-16 04:28:33

#7

BLdw: ..; +27|5385|M104 "Sombrero"

Catbox wrote:
Does anyone think Obama is making the US a better country than Ronald Reagan did while President?

I don't know about Obama but isn't it controversial if Reagan did help US to become a better country?

Catbox wrote:
And you think that a bloated inefficient govt... who's only answer is to raise taxes... is a good thing?

Despite the fact that Regan was know for tax cuts didn't he actually raise some taxes throughout his second term?

Last edited by BLdw (2010-04-16 04:31:06)

2010-04-16 04:36:47

#8

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6951|Oxferd Ohire

Shahter wrote:
no, i'm saying that there isn't and never was a government who "worked for the people".

Hate to be picky on words, but we can't be sure there never was a government who worked for the people. Sure it may be true, but we have no way to prove it since many ancient records are lost and many didn't write anything yet. Heck, look at all we don't know about the tribes of the America's or the Africans..

2010-04-16 06:52:09

#9

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6320|eXtreme to the maX

He did have good speech writers.

But to be fair he did play a big part in ending the cold war.

Fuck Israel

2010-04-16 07:00:03

#10

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6989|Moscow, Russia

Dilbert_X wrote:
He did have good speech writers.

But to be fair he did play a big part in ending the cold war.

... by reading his good speeches? O_o

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-04-16 07:02:31

#11

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5572|London, England

Shahter wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
He did have good speech writers.

But to be fair he did play a big part in ending the cold war.
... by reading his good speeches? O_o

You sound ridiculously bitter in all of your threads. Why don't you move to Cuba if you think totalitarian communism was so fantastic?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-16 07:03:04

#12

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6320|eXtreme to the maX

No, by engaging with Gorbachev.

Fuck Israel

2010-04-16 07:03:35

#13

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6743|Global Command

Wasn't It His Idea To Deregulate The Banks That Lead Us To Where We Are Now?

2010-04-16 07:05:37

#14

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6835|London, England

Wasn't he the guy that started the whole massive government spending downward spiral thing (edit: ATG said it, looks like he said it in all CAPS but the filter raped him), didn't he leave the US with a huge deficit/debt and all that? Where's that graph about tax and spend liberals and responsible fiscal conservatives, you know the one

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2010-04-16 07:06:15)

2010-04-16 07:11:11

#15

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6711

i voted for Reagan. i think today's republican's bare little resemblance to the party that got him elected.

2010-04-16 07:12:56

#16

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6367|what

ATG wrote:
Wasn't It His Idea To Deregulate The Banks That Lead Us To Where We Are Now?

But it was Clinton's fault for not doing anything about it.

https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3024/sarcasm.gif

2010-04-16 07:14:59

#17

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6835|London, England

How true are these anyway?

https://jimbuie.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/05/natl_debt_chart_2006_2.gif

https://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/meet-john-mccain.jpg

(I'm aware that if they included Obama on this, he would actually not fit in the images he would be that high up, but the thread is about how awesome Reagen was for all his key conservative values and such, and I can't see it looking at these things)

2010-04-16 07:19:48

#18

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5572|London, England

Mekstizzle wrote:
How true are these anyway?

http://jimbuie.blogs.com/photos/uncateg … 2006_2.gif

http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploa … mccain.jpg

(I'm aware that if they included Obama on this, he would actually not fit in the images he would be that high up, but the thread is about how awesome Reagen was for all his key conservative values and such, and I can't see it looking at these things)

It depends on what criteria they are using, whether they're including future debt from current legislation etc It's nigh on impossible to accept them without the backing data they used.

Reagan and especially Bush Jr were not fiscal conservatives. Bush Sr. had a war to fight and a recession so his presidency is kind of a wash. Clinton was more libertarian than anything and was an aberration in American politics. He is NOT representative of the Democrat party platform in the slightest.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-04-16 07:22:01)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-16 07:22:22

#19

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6889|Canberra, AUS

Mekstizzle wrote:
How true are these anyway?

http://jimbuie.blogs.com/photos/uncateg … 2006_2.gif

http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploa … mccain.jpg

(I'm aware that if they included Obama on this, he would actually not fit in the images he would be that high up, but the thread is about how awesome Reagen was for all his key conservative values and such, and I can't see it looking at these things)

Have to consider things like natural increase in automatic spending due to Medicare/SS etc. which are mostly beyond a president's control.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-16 07:23:32

#20

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6889|Canberra, AUS

JohnG@lt wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
How true are these anyway?

http://jimbuie.blogs.com/photos/uncateg … 2006_2.gif

http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploa … mccain.jpg

(I'm aware that if they included Obama on this, he would actually not fit in the images he would be that high up, but the thread is about how awesome Reagen was for all his key conservative values and such, and I can't see it looking at these things)
It depends on what criteria they are using, whether they're including future debt from current legislation etc It's nigh on impossible to accept them without the backing data they used.

Reagan and especially Bush Jr were not fiscal conservatives. Bush Sr. had a war to fight and a recession so his presidency is kind of a wash. Clinton was more libertarian than anything and was an aberration in American politics. He is NOT representative of the Democrat party platform in the slightest.

Funny to note how Democrats only seem successful when they make an effort to differentiate themselves from the party machine.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-16 07:27:35

#21

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5572|London, England

Spark wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
How true are these anyway?

http://jimbuie.blogs.com/photos/uncateg … 2006_2.gif

http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploa … mccain.jpg

(I'm aware that if they included Obama on this, he would actually not fit in the images he would be that high up, but the thread is about how awesome Reagen was for all his key conservative values and such, and I can't see it looking at these things)
It depends on what criteria they are using, whether they're including future debt from current legislation etc It's nigh on impossible to accept them without the backing data they used.

Reagan and especially Bush Jr were not fiscal conservatives. Bush Sr. had a war to fight and a recession so his presidency is kind of a wash. Clinton was more libertarian than anything and was an aberration in American politics. He is NOT representative of the Democrat party platform in the slightest.
Funny to note how Democrats only seem successful when they make an effort to differentiate themselves from the party machine.

Well, the party machine promises the world to special interest groups that would destroy the country if they all got their way. Obama's administration is almost wholly owned by unions so we're in for a world of hurt economically if he gets a second term. Expect massive protectionism, massive expansion of unions and crap like cap and trade if he's re-elected. The unions in this country want nothing more than our country to resemble France with its lifetime employment, ridiculous benefits packages etc. Nevermind that France is failing, they don't care.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-16 07:32:42

#22

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6889|Canberra, AUS

if he's learn his lesson from the last year then expect cap and trade to crop again very, very soon. not next term, if he has one.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-16 07:34:31

#23

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5572|London, England

Spark wrote:
if he's learn his lesson from the last year then expect cap and trade to crop again very, very soon. not next term, if he has one.

If he railroads that monstrosity through he'll have no shot at a second term. The history books (written by liberal professors of course) will make him a martyr for the progressive cause and the second coming of FDR.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-16 07:34:45

#24

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6989|Moscow, Russia

JohnG@lt wrote:
Shahter wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
He did have good speech writers.

But to be fair he did play a big part in ending the cold war.
... by reading his good speeches? O_o
You sound ridiculously bitter in all of your threads. Why don't you move to Cuba if you think totalitarian communism was so fantastic?

remind me when did i say it was "fantastic"?
anyway, thank you kind sir for your advise, but i have good reasons to remain were i am, and no, those do not include beleaving in any "great country", being proud of it or any such nonsence.

Dilbert_X wrote:
No, by engaging with Gorbachev.

oh, you mean like this...

https://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/161646_main.jpg

..?

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-04-16 07:38:05

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6320|eXtreme to the maX

No, Reagan and Gorbached between them ended the cold war, no small acheivement on either side.
That the USSR was broke doesn't matter.

Fuck Israel

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