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Ottomania wrote:

Yeah, it is normal to be killed just because you didnt attach ID or vest, pilots have nothing to do with it. Did you honestly believe that triggerhappy predators would recognize anything? Beside the journalists, what about other victims?
When you're with a group of men armed with ak47's, one carrying an RPG, then yes it is normal to be killed in a fucking war zone.

Can you stop being so dense please.

That's like complaining about being arrested at a KKK march because you were walking with them.
M.O.A.B
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Ottomania wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Ottomania wrote:


Because it was just belonging to ordinary people trying to help the wounded.
That doesn't explain why the journalists weren't wearing ID or vests though.

Tbh, contractor's would have been better for their bodyguards, considering a contractor actually looks like a contractor with his body armour.

They made three mistakes that day, and paid for it.
Yeah, it is normal to be killed just because you didnt attach ID or vest, pilots have nothing to do with it. Did you honestly believe that triggerhappy predators would recognize anything? Beside the journalists, what about other victims?
If you don't have a means of identifying yourself as a friendly, expect to become a target.
11 Bravo
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Ottomania wrote:

triggerhappy predators
no thats turkish troops.  why not go ask the kurd civilians about that eh?

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-04-06 08:29:20)

Ottomania
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11 Bravo wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

triggerhappy predators
no thats turkish troops.  why not go as the kurd civilians about that eh?
Bring some footage...
Vilham
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Seriously otto, are you actually kidding us?
ruisleipa
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11 Bravo wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

triggerhappy predators
no thats turkish troops.  why not go ask the kurd civilians about that eh?
how about you stick to the topic at hand and create another thread about any other unrelated shit you wanna drag in here
Ottomania
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The Sheriff wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Yeah, it is normal to be killed just because you didnt attach ID or vest, pilots have nothing to do with it. Did you honestly believe that triggerhappy predators would recognize anything? Beside the journalists, what about other victims?
When you're with a group of men armed with ak47's, one carrying an RPG, then yes it is normal to be killed in a fucking war zone.

Can you stop being so dense please.

That's like complaining about being arrested at a KKK march because you were walking with them.
There was not a RPG nor ak47s.. It was a camera with a big lens, or whatever equipment.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6767|UK
No there was an RPG, 3:45. Get some glasses.
Chou
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3:45

https://uppix.net/7/3/d/f848d239765fe2fa450d417a38375.jpg
-Sh1fty-
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It's funny because it's the same thing back and forth.

"Dude they were innocent civilians, you don't shoot em"
"They had AK-"
"DUDE they were innocent civilians, don't shoot"
"But they had RP-"
"MAN I'm TELLING YA, CIVILIANS"
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Ottomania
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M.O.A.B wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


That doesn't explain why the journalists weren't wearing ID or vests though.

Tbh, contractor's would have been better for their bodyguards, considering a contractor actually looks like a contractor with his body armour.

They made three mistakes that day, and paid for it.
Yeah, it is normal to be killed just because you didnt attach ID or vest, pilots have nothing to do with it. Did you honestly believe that triggerhappy predators would recognize anything? Beside the journalists, what about other victims?
If you don't have a means of identifying yourself as a friendly, expect to become a target.
How the hell are they supposed to identify them as friendly? They were even unaware of the helicopter.
11 Bravo
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Ottomania wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

triggerhappy predators
no thats turkish troops.  why not go as the kurd civilians about that eh?
Bring some footage...
no video sorry...just a couple eamples


Troops sweeping the countryside of Tunceli province encountered a group of rebels on Saturday. Five soldiers were wounded in the firefight, two of them seriously, sources said. In a separate clash elsewhere in Tunceli, troops shot dead one guerrilla, a member of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK). Soldiers also shot and wounded a local civilian they mistook for a rebel

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module= … mp;id=2083

In the Turkish-PKK conflict more than 30.000 people have been killed since 1984 [1], while the PKK, citing the article by the former French Ambassador to Turkey Eric Rouleau in the November/December 2000 edition of 'Foreign Affairs', reports that more than 18,500 civilians have been killed by Turkish military and paramilitary organisations. In his article, Rouleau had claimed holding the number from the Turkish Ministry of Justice.[2]

Human Rights Watch has stated that:
M.O.A.B
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Ottomania wrote:

The Sheriff wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Yeah, it is normal to be killed just because you didnt attach ID or vest, pilots have nothing to do with it. Did you honestly believe that triggerhappy predators would recognize anything? Beside the journalists, what about other victims?
When you're with a group of men armed with ak47's, one carrying an RPG, then yes it is normal to be killed in a fucking war zone.

Can you stop being so dense please.

That's like complaining about being arrested at a KKK march because you were walking with them.
There was not a RPG nor ak47s.. It was a camera with a big lens, or whatever equipment.
AK (underfolder variant by the looks of it) in the right hand of the guy in the crosshairs at 3:40.
11 Bravo
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ruisleipa wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

triggerhappy predators
no thats turkish troops.  why not go ask the kurd civilians about that eh?
how about you stick to the topic at hand and create another thread about any other unrelated shit you wanna drag in here
irony is ironic
Ottomania
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Vilham wrote:

No there was an RPG, 3:45. Get some glasses.
Although I dont agree with your fictious RPG, you dont have right to blow up 20 people just because one of them is carrying a RPG.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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Ottomania wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Ottomania wrote:


Yeah, it is normal to be killed just because you didnt attach ID or vest, pilots have nothing to do with it. Did you honestly believe that triggerhappy predators would recognize anything? Beside the journalists, what about other victims?
If you don't have a means of identifying yourself as a friendly, expect to become a target.
How the hell are they supposed to identify them as friendly? They were even unaware of the helicopter.
Pays to take precautions in a war zone you know.

Its why you see Beeb journalists wearing big navy blue flak jackets and helmets with PRESS tapes in English and Arabic on them.
-Sh1fty-
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Ottomania wrote:

Vilham wrote:

No there was an RPG, 3:45. Get some glasses.
Although I dont agree with your fictious RPG, you dont have right to blow up 20 people just because one of them is carrying a RPG.
WHAT?

You can clearly see an RPG-7 in that video! Want my glasses?
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Ottomania
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M.O.A.B wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


If you don't have a means of identifying yourself as a friendly, expect to become a target.
How the hell are they supposed to identify them as friendly? They were even unaware of the helicopter.
Pays to take precautions in a war zone you know.

Its why you see Beeb journalists wearing big navy blue flak jackets and helmets with PRESS tapes in English and Arabic on them.
I am sure they never put their helmet off, even while sleeping.

A journalist is nothing more than a civilian. So it is not an excuse to aim them just because they dont carry sign. Also it is senseless to suppose that brave gunmen who cant recognize a huge camera can identify the helmet or jacket. A helmet ant a vest makes you seem more like an insurgent btw.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6325|New Haven, CT
This thread title led me to believe you'd finally seen the light in regards to Turkish-Armenian relations in the early part of the 20th century.
-Sh1fty-
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Ottomania wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Ottomania wrote:


How the hell are they supposed to identify them as friendly? They were even unaware of the helicopter.
Pays to take precautions in a war zone you know.

Its why you see Beeb journalists wearing big navy blue flak jackets and helmets with PRESS tapes in English and Arabic on them.
I am sure they never put their helmet off, even while sleeping.

A journalist is nothing more than a civilian. So it is not an excuse to aim them just because they dont carry sign. Also it is senseless to suppose that brave gunmen who cant recognize a huge camera can identify the helmet or jacket. A helmet ant a vest makes you seem more like an insurgent btw.
See now you're being a sarcastic idiot.

I hate those faggy whore replies like, "OH well I'm sure they never take their helmets off"

you idiot

Stop posting like that.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Ottomania
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Vilham wrote:

No there was an RPG, 3:45. Get some glasses.
Although I dont agree with your fictious RPG, you dont have right to blow up 20 people just because one of them is carrying a RPG.
WHAT?

You can clearly see an RPG-7 in that video! Want my glasses?
Let's take the middle way, it is unclear. What was the urgency for killing so many people? They were not a threat at the moment.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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No this makes you seem more like an insurgent.

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/28748/0408-05.jpg

A helmet and body armour is more suggestive of coalition troops or sensible journalists.
Ottomania
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nukchebi0 wrote:

This thread title led me to believe you'd finally seen the light in regards to Turkish-Armenian relations in the early part of the 20th century.
If any genocide have ever happened, fuck the responsibles.
Ottomania
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M.O.A.B wrote:

No this makes you seem more like an insurgent.

http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/28748/0408-05.jpg

A helmet and body armour is more suggestive of coalition troops or sensible journalists.
Whatever, there was not any person like you posted on the scene.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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Ottomania wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

No this makes you seem more like an insurgent.

http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/28748/0408-05.jpg

A helmet and body armour is more suggestive of coalition troops or sensible journalists.
Whatever, there was not any person like you posted on the scene.
What, nobody was wearing civilian clothes as they brandished weapons?

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