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2010-03-25 09:12:55
lowing
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eleven bravo wrote:

maybe you just dint like the "R" word lowing.  Ill call you a person who has a predisposed negative opinion on a wide range of people that happen to be minorities because of actions you focus all of you attention on.  is that better?


Ive addressed your racism time and time again.  Why dont YOU prove ME wrong about that
No that is not better, I do not address minorities as being the issue or the probem. I address problems that might happen to be within a minority group.

There is a difference.

What is it you would have me prove?

That blacks are not occupying prison cells at a higher rate than white people, or that gang violence and gang members ar hero worshipped, or that successful black people are viewed as sell outs? Sorry I can not prove those things wrong. How about you prove them wrong?

Last edited by lowing (2010-03-25 09:15:41)

2010-03-25 09:15:01
eleven bravo
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ok, well I see you have yet to address the arguments we have had in the past to disprove the status of your racism.  typical.
Tu Stultus Es
2010-03-25 09:17:07
lowing
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eleven bravo wrote:

ok, well I see you have yet to address the arguments we have had in the past to disprove the status of your racism.  typical.
It is not up to me to prove I am not racist, it is your claim that I am, you should prove it. You can start by showing a single post where I claim white peopel are superior to black people.

and again you do not address what is posted, just call me a racist.

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2010-03-25 09:17:32
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6833|Texas - Bigger than France

lowing wrote:

When does the time come where you can no longer blame "people like lowing" for the actions and behavior that is working on tearing the black community apart?

I gave examples a few time recently that has gone unchallenged so I will give them again

It is not the fault of "people like lowing" that the black community chooses to hero worship gang members and violence, instead of black astronauts, doctors, firefighters, cops, pilots etc...

It is not the fault of "people like lowing" that black America views success and making something of yourself as selling out to "whitey"

But hey, there I go, just being a racist.
Well, I think you are wrong about hero worship of gang members and violence.  And "tearing the black community apart".

Even if that's true, why the fuck do you care?

It's not impacting me...so how is it impacting you?
2010-03-25 09:19:33
eleven bravo
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lowing wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

ok, well I see you have yet to address the arguments we have had in the past to disprove the status of your racism.  typical.
It is not up to me to prove I am not racist, it is your claim that I am, you should prove it. You can start by showing a single post where I claim white peopel are superior to black people.
well lowing, it is your claim that you arent.  Yes, it is up to you to disprove a negative in this case.  Lowing, you are racist.  prove me wron now.  GO!
Tu Stultus Es
2010-03-25 09:23:06
Cybargs
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lowing doesn't like hajji all that much.
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2010-03-25 09:23:15
lowing
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Pug wrote:

lowing wrote:

When does the time come where you can no longer blame "people like lowing" for the actions and behavior that is working on tearing the black community apart?

I gave examples a few time recently that has gone unchallenged so I will give them again

It is not the fault of "people like lowing" that the black community chooses to hero worship gang members and violence, instead of black astronauts, doctors, firefighters, cops, pilots etc...

It is not the fault of "people like lowing" that black America views success and making something of yourself as selling out to "whitey"

But hey, there I go, just being a racist.
Well, I think you are wrong about hero worship of gang members and violence.  And "tearing the black community apart".

Even if that's true, why the fuck do you care?

It's not impacting me...so how is it impacting you?
So you do not think the young blacks hero worship gang members and violence? Watch a hip hop video lately? Ever wonder where sagging orginated?

Why do I care? Probably for the same reason any middle class American black or otherwise would care, because this shit is spreading into the suburbs. Schools are going down hill, gang violence is up, and is now present where it never used to be. Why wouldn't I care?  and why wouldn't you?

Last edited by lowing (2010-03-25 09:26:42)

2010-03-25 09:23:34
west-phoenix-az
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eleven bravo wrote:

Lowing, you are racist.  prove me wron now.  GO!
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2010-03-25 09:26:00
lowing
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eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

ok, well I see you have yet to address the arguments we have had in the past to disprove the status of your racism.  typical.
It is not up to me to prove I am not racist, it is your claim that I am, you should prove it. You can start by showing a single post where I claim white peopel are superior to black people.
well lowing, it is your claim that you arent.  Yes, it is up to you to disprove a negative in this case.  Lowing, you are racist.  prove me wron now.  GO!
ok......... of all my posts I have written on the subject in this forum. I have never made any claims to whites being superior to anyone. My lack of such posts is my evidence.

My prejudices are social not racial.

Now, your turn You claim I am a racist. Prove it, GO!!
2010-03-25 09:33:33
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6833|Texas - Bigger than France

lowing wrote:

So you do not think the young blacks hero worship gang members and violence? Watch a hip hop video lately? Ever wonder where sagging orginated?

Why do I care? Probably for the same reason any middle class American black or otherwise would care, because this shit is spreading into the suburbs. Schools are going down hill, gang violence is up, and is now present where it never used to be. Why wouldn't I care?  and why wouldn't you?
No I do not.

Yes I have.

Sagging orginated in Japan.  Who gives a shit?  I remember when wearing Vans made you a pot head.


Is every school going downhill because of gangs?  Is it growing?  How do you know?  Because of a dress fad?

Every guy who sags isn't in a gang.  Just like every black guy isn't in a gang.



You are one paranoid fucker
2010-03-25 09:44:12
lowing
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Pug wrote:

lowing wrote:

So you do not think the young blacks hero worship gang members and violence? Watch a hip hop video lately? Ever wonder where sagging orginated?

Why do I care? Probably for the same reason any middle class American black or otherwise would care, because this shit is spreading into the suburbs. Schools are going down hill, gang violence is up, and is now present where it never used to be. Why wouldn't I care?  and why wouldn't you?
No I do not.

Yes I have.

Sagging orginated in Japan.  Who gives a shit?  I remember when wearing Vans made you a pot head.


Is every school going downhill because of gangs?  Is it growing?  How do you know?  Because of a dress fad?

Every guy who sags isn't in a gang.  Just like every black guy isn't in a gang.



You are one paranoid fucker
well you are wrong about sagging, so after you do research on that topic, you may proceed to search the other things you are wrong about.

never said "every school"

how do I know?  because I can read, and I am aware of the community around me

never said all blacks are in gangs, nor did I say all saggers are gang members.

Tell ya what, lets start over. You go back READ what was posted then address that. I will wait here.
2010-03-25 10:04:08
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
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Ok, reread the thread.  I have not found anything besides your opinion.

I am fully educated.

And I disagree with you.
2010-03-25 10:29:50
eleven bravo
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2010-03-25 11:05:48
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Ok, reread the thread.  I have not found anything besides your opinion.

I am fully educated.

And I disagree with you.
Well if you are going to stand by your comment on sagging and refuse to acknowldge the truth about it, I see no reason to move forward.

Your education has got jack shit to do with respondinig to what I actually said. So again read what I posted respond to WHAT I POSTED and see if you can do so without making up shit that you say I said
2010-03-25 11:08:12
lowing
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eleven bravo wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkCgVrOITwo
You plan on addressing what I post yet, or better still show a post of mine where I said I think white people are superior to black people? Or are you wiliing to acknowledge that my issues are social and not racial?
2010-03-25 11:41:23
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6833|Texas - Bigger than France

lowing wrote:

Pug wrote:

Ok, reread the thread.  I have not found anything besides your opinion.

I am fully educated.

And I disagree with you.
Well if you are going to stand by your comment on sagging and refuse to acknowldge the truth about it, I see no reason to move forward.

Your education has got jack shit to do with respondinig to what I actually said. So again read what I posted respond to WHAT I POSTED and see if you can do so without making up shit that you say I said
You understand my education was based on reading the content of this thread.  Aka, "are there any facts"?

Sure.  There's gangs.  There's saggy pants.

But how many are in gangs?  Is it growing?  How bad of a problem is it?  Is sagging indirectly producing gangs in suburbia?

I do not see the connection between sagging as "hero worship of gangs", as well as some of the other comments you made.

If you want to debate something besides your opinion, then provide support for it.

All I'm getting from you is "I have a feeling sagging is hero worship which leads to gang violence which leads to making suburbia unstable...", well that and "you are fucking wrong".

I have no problem with you having your opinion, albeit you are either dancing on or have gone over the racial stereotype line.
2010-03-25 11:53:09
KEN-JENNINGS
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lowing wrote:

well you are wrong about sagging, so after you do research on that topic, you may proceed to search the other things you are wrong about.
Did you really research sagging?
2010-03-25 12:16:36
west-phoenix-az
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I believe the point Lowing is trying to make about sagging is that it is widely believed to have originated in prison.
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2010-03-25 12:21:53
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6833|Texas - Bigger than France
Yes it did.  But...is wearing saggy pants tearing the black community apart because black people would rather worship gang violence then successful folks?



FYI, I once went to a Grateful Dead concert.  I didn't get high.












Well...do shrooms count?











okay, and pot.  There was pot.









But I didn't inhale.






Okay, I did.










Thread needs more lol.
2010-03-25 12:28:15
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Yes it did.  But...is wearing saggy pants tearing the black community apart because black people would rather worship gang violence then successful folks?



FYI, I once went to a Grateful Dead concert.  I didn't get high.












Well...do shrooms count?











okay, and pot.  There was pot.









But I didn't inhale.






Okay, I did.










Thread needs more lol.
I'm sorry, I coulda swore I read that you said sagging orginated in Japan.

and yeah if you go to a grateful dead concert or Pink Floyd etc.. you ca ngo ahead and make the assumtion that there will be drugs.

Now, as I said before, address what I actually said. or are you going to continue to avoid it?
2010-03-25 12:33:17
lowing
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:

well you are wrong about sagging, so after you do research on that topic, you may proceed to search the other things you are wrong about.
Did you really research sagging?
yeah I suggest you look it up as well
2010-03-25 12:34:15
NateW
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2010-03-25 12:35:56
lowing
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west-phoenix-az wrote:

I believe the point Lowing is trying to make about sagging is that it is widely believed to have originated in prison.
nooooooooo I am saying it DID orginate in the prison system.

So now that that little factoid is established. I will wait for someone ot explain to me how people will adopt a look that emmulates prison life, and at the same time say that they are not hero worshipping that life.
2010-03-25 12:35:57
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
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Point being, it doesn't matter where it originated.

I did address it, no?

I disagree with you.  I'm not seeing it the same way as you, specifically:

1) Sagging helps create more gang activity
2) Hero worship
3) preference of gangs over hard working folks

Aka, its a limited problem which is being blown out of proportion.

Do I like it?  No.  But I'm not seeing it as a threat ripping the community apart.

So yeah, I've address it a few times already.

We have different opinions on how shitty the situation is.
2010-03-25 12:40:53
Bertster7
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lowing wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

ok, well I see you have yet to address the arguments we have had in the past to disprove the status of your racism.  typical.
It is not up to me to prove I am not racist, it is your claim that I am, you should prove it.
No one needs to prove it.

It is not an absolute. Racism is subjective to a point.

Most people here seem to think you come across as a racist because of the overall tone and subtext of your posts. Those opinions are certainly not unfounded.



And sagging? WTF? Who the fuck cares? There will always be those with thinly veiled prejudices targeting the fashions of minorities - Zoot Suits being another example.

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