yeah I agree Al Sharpton will get involved or wait Jesse Jackson lol ... depends how much publicity it gets though..... if WM plays its cards rite nothing will happen... they'll just say a someone else did this and we cant be held responsible... or some bs like that....lowing wrote:
give it time. There will be a law suit against Wal MartMarlo Stanfield wrote:
Sorry lowing, I don't see how anyone could possibly sue, let alone actually get anything, from this event.
Wal-Mart will be held responsible by the entitled, they have to be, they have all the money for the taking.blademaster wrote:
yeah I agree Al Sharpton will get involved or wait Jesse Jackson lol ... depends how much publicity it gets though..... if WM plays its cards rite nothing will happen... they'll just say a someone else did this and we cant be held responsible... or some bs like that....lowing wrote:
give it time. There will be a law suit against Wal MartMarlo Stanfield wrote:
Sorry lowing, I don't see how anyone could possibly sue, let alone actually get anything, from this event.
No Walmart already played their cards. They already issued an official apology and shit like this is against their work place policy. It's something out of their control and they already have a good case. Whoever tries to sue walmart will be wasting their money.lowing wrote:
Wal-Mart will be held responsible by the entitled, they have to be, they have all the money for the taking.blademaster wrote:
yeah I agree Al Sharpton will get involved or wait Jesse Jackson lol ... depends how much publicity it gets though..... if WM plays its cards rite nothing will happen... they'll just say a someone else did this and we cant be held responsible... or some bs like that....lowing wrote:
give it time. There will be a law suit against Wal Mart
I would point no one said anything about successful litigation.Cybargs wrote:
No Walmart already played their cards. They already issued an official apology and shit like this is against their work place policy. It's something out of their control and they already have a good case. Whoever tries to sue walmart will be wasting their money.lowing wrote:
Wal-Mart will be held responsible by the entitled, they have to be, they have all the money for the taking.blademaster wrote:
yeah I agree Al Sharpton will get involved or wait Jesse Jackson lol ... depends how much publicity it gets though..... if WM plays its cards rite nothing will happen... they'll just say a someone else did this and we cant be held responsible... or some bs like that....
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=/ my bad on reading comprehension >.<Spark wrote:
I would point no one said anything about successful litigation.Cybargs wrote:
No Walmart already played their cards. They already issued an official apology and shit like this is against their work place policy. It's something out of their control and they already have a good case. Whoever tries to sue walmart will be wasting their money.lowing wrote:
Wal-Mart will be held responsible by the entitled, they have to be, they have all the money for the taking.
The Cops arrested someone. Too busy to find it, but they had it as a link story on msn.com
So whats the charge? If being a douchebag is a criminal offense now I'd like to report some people.
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The Cops arrested someone. Too busy to find it, but they had it as a link story on msn.com
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Probably disturbing the peace. That's what law enforcement use when they buy into public outrage, but don't have anything to actually pin on whoever's supposedly causing it. It's essentially legalised mob rule.Wreckognize wrote:
So whats the charge? If being a douchebag is a criminal offense now I'd like to report some people.
The boy has been charged with harassment and bias intimidation.
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hmmmmm picture a black kid doing this. announcing all white people must leave. Do ya see an arrest and a charge in that scenario?Kmarion wrote:
The boy has been charged with harassment and bias intimidation.
I am kinda surprised they are not charging this dipshit with a "hate crime".
Not exactly the same thing. Most whites haven't had grandparents that were segregated in recent history. Let that generation die off. Then it won't be such a sore subject.
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Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it. If you don't what are you achieving? Certainly not equality.Kmarion wrote:
Not exactly the same thing. Most whites haven't had grandparents that were segregated in recent history. Let that generation die off. Then it won't be such a sore subject.
however it is nice to see we agree that it would be "different"
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That's ridiculous. New Jersey statute defines the applicable definition of 'Harassment' as if a person "Makes, or causes to be made, a communication or communications anonymously or at extremely inconvenient hours, or in offensively coarse language, or any other manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm"Kmarion wrote:
The boy has been charged with harassment and bias intimidation.
So, if you in New Jersey communicate anything anonymously, or say anything in a manner likely to annoy anyone, you're guilty of a petty disorderly persons offense. On top of that, the statute does not include any definition of 'Bias Intimidation' applicable to this case, unless someone somehow is arguing that being asked through a PA system to leave a store is intimidating. Bias intimidation is nothing but a double whammy charge, and it isn't even applicable in this case according to statute.
It's painfully evident that public pressure is being given in to.
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He will and should get a slap on the wrist. The same would happen to anyone else spewing racist comments over a PA.lowing wrote:
Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it. If you don't what are you achieving? Certainly not equality.Kmarion wrote:
Not exactly the same thing. Most whites haven't had grandparents that were segregated in recent history. Let that generation die off. Then it won't be such a sore subject.
however it is nice to see we agree that it would be "different"
You're the one making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Nope, my observation is, this incident is being made a "mountain out of a mole hill" already, but the reverse would not yield the same size mountain.Kmarion wrote:
He will and should get a slap on the wrist. The same would happen to anyone else spewing racist comments over a PA.lowing wrote:
Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it. If you don't what are you achieving? Certainly not equality.Kmarion wrote:
Not exactly the same thing. Most whites haven't had grandparents that were segregated in recent history. Let that generation die off. Then it won't be such a sore subject.
however it is nice to see we agree that it would be "different"
You're the one making a mountain out of a mole hill.
In fact ,there would be an uproar if a black person were arrested for such a thing.
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...unfortunately... I guess you have a point about that thing you said about the U.S. in the other thread.mikkel wrote:
That's ridiculous. New Jersey statute defines the applicable definition of 'Harassment' as if a person "Makes, or causes to be made, a communication or communications anonymously or at extremely inconvenient hours, or in offensively coarse language, or any other manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm"Kmarion wrote:
The boy has been charged with harassment and bias intimidation.
So, if you in New Jersey communicate anything anonymously, or say anything in a manner likely to annoy anyone, you're guilty of a petty disorderly persons offense. On top of that, the statute does not include any definition of 'Bias Intimidation' applicable to this case, unless someone somehow is arguing that being asked through a PA system to leave a store is intimidating. Bias intimidation is nothing but a double whammy charge, and it isn't even applicable in this case according to statute.
It's painfully evident that public pressure is being given in to.
Oh yeah? Where's the equality now then?lowing wrote:
Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it.
Do you care to explain what rights white people have that blacks do not, or what is not equal?ruisleipa wrote:
Oh yeah? Where's the equality now then?lowing wrote:
Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it.
Because I can list a whole truck load of shit that "reverse" discrimination has yielded.
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So a white person in a predominately black neighborhood surrounded by black gangs isn't subject to black intimidation?Kmarion wrote:
Not exactly the same thing. Most whites haven't had grandparents that were segregated in recent history. Let that generation die off. Then it won't be such a sore subject.
It was a stupid thing to do, but it sounds exactly like something that would be on TV for comedy. The kid should get community service, not prison.
We still have none. Instead, businesses are pressured to fill their minority quotas.ruisleipa wrote:
Oh yeah? Where's the equality now then?lowing wrote:
Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it.
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Well I can name many inequalities - the fact that black people are disproportionately in prison for example, or on death row, or in poverty, or uneducated, or on welfare, and so on. It's not simply about having a right on paper. Society isn't 'equal' and you know it.lowing wrote:
Do you care to explain what rights white people have that blacks do not, or what is not equal?ruisleipa wrote:
Oh yeah? Where's the equality now then?lowing wrote:
Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it.
Because I can list a whole truck load of shit that "reverse" discrimination has yielded.
Those problems aren't about them not having the same/equal rights as people with different skin color, ruisleipa.ruisleipa wrote:
Well I can name many inequalities - the fact that black people are disproportionately in prison for example, or on death row, or in poverty, or uneducated, or on welfare, and so on. It's not simply about having a right on paper. Society isn't 'equal' and you know it.lowing wrote:
Do you care to explain what rights white people have that blacks do not, or what is not equal?ruisleipa wrote:
Oh yeah? Where's the equality now then?
Because I can list a whole truck load of shit that "reverse" discrimination has yielded.
Equality of opportunity =/= equality of results.
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In fact it's people like you that keep these issues alive lowing, your kind is the one making headlines about an petty incident like this ... when black people in general brush it off as a idiotic prank why should you not do the same?lowing wrote:
Nope, my observation is, this incident is being made a "mountain out of a mole hill" already, but the reverse would not yield the same size mountain.Kmarion wrote:
He will and should get a slap on the wrist. The same would happen to anyone else spewing racist comments over a PA.lowing wrote:
Sorry, if you are struggling for equality, that means you struggle to make all things equal. You do not compensate in the other direction for 3 generations. You find equality and you maintain it. If you don't what are you achieving? Certainly not equality.
however it is nice to see we agree that it would be "different"
You're the one making a mountain out of a mole hill.
In fact ,there would be an uproar if a black person were arrested for such a thing.
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