Bevo
Nah
+718|6972|Austin, Texas
My PC is a bit over 3 years old, I was wondering what kind of performance upgrade I'd be looking at for a new ~$1000 build.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/18/2010, 12:51:17
       Machine name: DYLANPC
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
       System Model: MS-9620
               BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 285   ,  MMX,  3DNow (4 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
             Memory: 3328MB RAM
          Page File: 1193MB used, 4017MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
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I think I posted everything relevant..

Last edited by Bevo (2010-02-18 10:56:50)

Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6239|Catherine Black
Assuming you can reuse PSU, Case, HDD, Monitors and peripherals..

https://i45.tinypic.com/amwo3s.png

Hmm forgot a CPU cooler.

If you can spare the buck

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … mp;Tpk=H50

If you can't

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835186134

Last edited by Finray (2010-02-18 11:00:00)

https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
FloppY_
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+1,010|6737|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Finray wrote:

Assuming you can reuse PSU, Case, HDD, Monitors and peripherals..

http://i45.tinypic.com/amwo3s.png

Hmm forgot a CPU cooler.

If you can spare the buck

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … mp;Tpk=H50

If you can't

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835186134
How many times do I have to say it...

GET AN i5 750, IT IS BETTER IN GAMES THAN THE i7 920 and only slightly slower outside games...

and ~ 30% cheaper...
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6239|Catherine Black
If you can afford it, the i7 makes your e-penis just that bit bigger
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6737|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Finray wrote:

If you can afford it, the i7 makes your e-penis just that bit bigger
And that is the only thing,,

Getting the 920 instead of the 750 is like putting money into the maculator... "just for the sake of doing it"
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Bevo
Nah
+718|6972|Austin, Texas
So would I be able to afford that plus the periphs in about 10mo for the $1k?

And what kind of performance increase would I be looking at over my current rig?
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7190|Toronto | Canada

FloppY_ wrote:

Finray wrote:

If you can afford it, the i7 makes your e-penis just that bit bigger
And that is the only thing,,

Getting the 920 instead of the 750 is like putting money into the maculator... "just for the sake of doing it"
What about Hyper Threading?
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6239|Catherine Black

Bevo wrote:

So would I be able to afford that plus the periphs in about 10mo for the $1k?

And what kind of performance increase would I be looking at over my current rig?
Well what peripherals are you looking at? Why not re-use the ones you have just now?

And as far as performance gain, that'll run anything today with frames to spare.

(Except maybe Crysis.)
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6239|Catherine Black

UK|Hooligan wrote:

Downside, i cant put it together myself, my brother will do it next week so iv got to wait at least a six or seven days looking at it all.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=135216
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Bevo
Nah
+718|6972|Austin, Texas

Finray wrote:

Bevo wrote:

So would I be able to afford that plus the periphs in about 10mo for the $1k?

And what kind of performance increase would I be looking at over my current rig?
Well what peripherals are you looking at? Why not re-use the ones you have just now?

And as far as performance gain, that'll run anything today with frames to spare.

(Except maybe Crysis.)
Weeel IIRC my case is a bit limiting to... I'm not sure what. But it was something.

Plus my HDD is absolute shite, something like 140g.

And I think I want a real soundcard, my current one sucks. Plus the 19" monitor isn't really mine, im just borrowing.

Just trying to see if it would be a justified purchase.
lxcpikiman
imbad @ bf2
+70|7046|Toronto-Canada
damn it!
i think my external HD died or something, it wont start but the light comes on but the sound of the HD reading files is not there.
fuck and i was going to install win7 and the external Hd was/is going to be my backup drive.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7190|Toronto | Canada

lxcpikiman wrote:

damn it!
i think my external HD died or something, it wont start but the light comes on but the sound of the HD reading files is not there.
fuck and i was going to install win7 and the external Hd was/is going to be my backup drive.
I just had that happen last week.  Take the drive out of the case and plug it in directly to a SATA connection.  I saved almost everything off a dying drive.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7183|St. Andrews / Oslo

I assume replacing a mobo in a laptop is hard/unpossible?
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png https://twitter.com/phoenix/favicon.ico
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|6048|Vacationland

Jenspm wrote:

I assume replacing a mobo in a laptop is hard/unpossible?
Replacing a graphics card is nearly impossible, let alone a mobo.
lxcpikiman
imbad @ bf2
+70|7046|Toronto-Canada
ok, it appeared that the cable i just bought wasn't working for the drive ( my HD is WD passport and the cable that came with is too short) and it wasn't detecting the HD now i would just have to leave it on top on my computer case.

BTW: bazinga, is that from The big Bang theory?

Last edited by lxcpikiman (2010-02-18 12:53:26)

FloppY_
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+1,010|6737|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Winston_Churchill wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Finray wrote:

If you can afford it, the i7 makes your e-penis just that bit bigger
And that is the only thing,,

Getting the 920 instead of the 750 is like putting money into the maculator... "just for the sake of doing it"
What about Hyper Threading?
Apparently it doesn't make that much of a difference...

of course, few apps are written for it yet...

Code:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/compare,1401.html?prod[2617]=on&prod[2884]=on
^-- Copy paste the entire thing, the []s in the url are messing with BBcode --^

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-02-18 13:18:48)

­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7190|Toronto | Canada

lxcpikiman wrote:

ok, it appeared that the cable i just bought wasn't working for the drive ( my HD is WD passport and the cable that came with is too short) and it wasn't detecting the HD now i would just have to leave it on top on my computer case.

BTW: bazinga, is that from The big Bang theory?
Of course

FloppY_ wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

And that is the only thing,,

Getting the 920 instead of the 750 is like putting money into the maculator... "just for the sake of doing it"
What about Hyper Threading?
Apparently it doesn't make that much of a difference...

of course, few apps are written for it yet...

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009 … .html?prod[2617]=on&prod[2884]=on]
^-- Copy paste the entire thing, the []s in the url are messing with BBcode --^
Didnt work

But in the future I'm sure it will.  When I buy a processor I want it to last for at least 3 years.  Besides, I do a lot of movie encoding and that takes advantage of HT

Last edited by Winston_Churchill (2010-02-18 13:08:10)

lxcpikiman
imbad @ bf2
+70|7046|Toronto-Canada
WC;
I love TBBT, it's my favorite comedy show i have all the episodes but lately they have been doing poorly in what it used to be a great show
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7294|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Narupug wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

I assume replacing a mobo in a laptop is hard/unpossible?
Replacing a graphics card is nearly impossible, let alone a mobo.
Replacing a lappy mobo is no problem, assuming you have the correct spare part...

Same with the graphics card, although you need the exact same special graphics card replacement.
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6737|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Winston_Churchill wrote:

lxcpikiman wrote:

ok, it appeared that the cable i just bought wasn't working for the drive ( my HD is WD passport and the cable that came with is too short) and it wasn't detecting the HD now i would just have to leave it on top on my computer case.

BTW: bazinga, is that from The big Bang theory?
Of course

FloppY_ wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

What about Hyper Threading?
Apparently it doesn't make that much of a difference...

of course, few apps are written for it yet...

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009 … .html?prod[2617]=on&prod[2884]=on]
^-- Copy paste the entire thing, the []s in the url are messing with BBcode --^
Didnt work

But in the future I'm sure it will.  When I buy a processor I want it to last for at least 3 years.  Besides, I do a lot of movie encoding and that takes advantage of HT
Adobe Premiere Pro CS4
1440x1080 Video Editing
Score in Time [seconds]
i7: 70.00 i5: 134.00

DivX 6.8.3
Video Transcoding: MPEG-2 to AVI
(Insane Quality)
Score in Time [seconds]
i7: 95.00 i5: 92.00

I honestly cannot see why I would bother with the 920.. Video encoding takes so much time it doesn't matter if it takes ~10-20% longer since you don't sit and stare at it encoding... gaming on the other hand..

920 is a waste of money, it is 50% more expensive than a 750

and as for "future HT gaming"..
In a 3-year spand, don't count on it.. just look at how long it took for Quad core to get integrated..

I edited the link above, now you can copy it

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-02-18 13:19:16)

­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7190|Toronto | Canada

FloppY_ wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Didnt work

But in the future I'm sure it will.  When I buy a processor I want it to last for at least 3 years.  Besides, I do a lot of movie encoding and that takes advantage of HT
Adobe Premiere Pro CS4
1440x1080 Video Editing
Score in Time [seconds]
i7: 70.00 i5: 134.00

DivX 6.8.3
Video Transcoding: MPEG-2 to AVI
(Insane Quality)
Score in Time [seconds]
i7: 95.00 i5: 92.00

I honestly cannot see why I would bother with the 920.. Video encoding takes so much time it doesn't matter if it takes ~10-20% longer since you don't sit and stare at it encoding... gaming on the other hand..

920 is a waste of money, it is 50% more expensive than a 750

and as for "future HT gaming"..
In a 3-year spand, don't count on it.. just look at how long it took for Quad core to get integrated..

I edited the link above, now you can copy it
Lulz, shows what you know about encoding.

Divx is a long dead codec.  x264 encoding takes advantage of HT.

I dont game, thats not a concern at all for me.

And CS4 took double the time.  1.5 times the price for half the time?  Seems good to me

Last edited by Winston_Churchill (2010-02-18 13:47:01)

FloppY_
­
+1,010|6737|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Winston_Churchill wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Didnt work

But in the future I'm sure it will.  When I buy a processor I want it to last for at least 3 years.  Besides, I do a lot of movie encoding and that takes advantage of HT
Adobe Premiere Pro CS4
1440x1080 Video Editing
Score in Time [seconds]
i7: 70.00 i5: 134.00

DivX 6.8.3
Video Transcoding: MPEG-2 to AVI
(Insane Quality)
Score in Time [seconds]
i7: 95.00 i5: 92.00

I honestly cannot see why I would bother with the 920.. Video encoding takes so much time it doesn't matter if it takes ~10-20% longer since you don't sit and stare at it encoding... gaming on the other hand..

920 is a waste of money, it is 50% more expensive than a 750

and as for "future HT gaming"..
In a 3-year spand, don't count on it.. just look at how long it took for Quad core to get integrated..

I edited the link above, now you can copy it
Lulz, shows what you know about encoding.

Divx is a long dead codec.  x264 encoding takes advantage of HT.

I dont game, thats not a concern at all for me.
ok mate, whatever floats your boat... I just cannot justify to anyone asking me for advice why they should pay 50% more for 10% better performance...

And I just cut out two random encoding tests from the comparison... So it's really more of a case of "what they tested" than "what I know"

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-02-18 13:48:02)

­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7190|Toronto | Canada

Cant justify if they're doing what you're doing, gaming, yes.

But with other programs such as encoding which take advantage of the HT then of course it's worth it.
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6737|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Cant justify if they're doing what you're doing, gaming, yes.

But with other programs such as encoding which take advantage of the HT then of course it's worth it.
no sir..

paying 50% more for 10% more is not worth it, nomatter what you do with it...
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7190|Toronto | Canada

FloppY_ wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Cant justify if they're doing what you're doing, gaming, yes.

But with other programs such as encoding which take advantage of the HT then of course it's worth it.
no sir..

paying 50% more for 10% more is not worth it, nomatter what you do with it...
But its not 10% more.  It would be quite a bit more, even on the test you quoted it was almost double the speed of the 750.

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