Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7031|SE London

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

That's very cheap, they are pretty poor screens though.
That's not cheap.

This is better and about 10% cheaper
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7293|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Arch Linux up and running on my desktop.

Holy crap, epic distro. Fast as fuck.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7070|Mhz

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

That's very cheap, they are pretty poor screens though.
That's not cheap.

This is better and about 10% cheaper
True it is cheaper, if it's anything like the 2233BW I'm sat at right now though it'll have a little backlight bleed, nothing like as bad as Asus monitors have though.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7031|SE London

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

That's very cheap, they are pretty poor screens though.
That's not cheap.

This is better and about 10% cheaper
True it is cheaper, if it's anything like the 2233BW I'm sat at right now though it'll have a little backlight bleed, nothing like as bad as Asus monitors have though.
So you agree, it is cheaper and better....
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7070|Mhz

Yup I agree, I've not really paid a lot of attention to monitors lately so it looked ok for a fairly big screen. If it's like my 2233BW though it's still not worth having.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7031|SE London

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Yup I agree, I've not really paid a lot of attention to monitors lately so it looked ok for a fairly big screen. If it's like my 2233BW though it's still not worth having.
I agree.

I haven't really kept up with monitor developments recently. Those Dell 2408WFPs were always pretty nice (and the 07 before that). The market seems to be flooded with cheap crappy TN panels with cheap backlights and HDMI only.

VA based panels FTW.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7070|Mhz

Yeh I went from a 17" Samsung 770p, really good S-PVA panel, really seriously good image quality and colour reproduction (especially considering it's age) to the 2233BW, yeh it's way bigger and looks spangly but, put the two together and the image just looks a bit wank in comparison lol.  I wasnt' really disappointed with it, I mean it only cost me £140, my 770p cost £350, you get what you pay for but it does go to show what a difference the panel type makes, I'll concede the 2233 is better for gaming, the 770p had a very slight motion blur.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7104

Quick question/issue: I'm going to be upgrading my processor since it's my bottleneck, and after reading reviews on Newegg, it seems that since I'm mainly using this PC for gaming, I should upgrade to a faster dual core as opposed to a quad-core. It makes sense, since I need the speed over multitasking, but I just want to confirm with you guys.


I've got an LGA775 socket (Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L), Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66 GHz. The dual core I'm looking at is E8500 Wolfdale 3.1 GHz. Could also get an E8600 @ 3.33 GHz, but it's $80 more. Is the upgrade even worth it? I'm going to be playing some BFBC2 a lot, and I also get major lag in big games like Saints Row 2 or GTA IV; so the processor would help, but I don't want to go overboard since I plan on building a whole new system in the coming months (hopefully).

Oh, and I've got a 500W power supply, in case that makes a difference. I've got a DVD burner, a DVD rom, 2 HDDs, and a HD 3850 hooked up.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2010-02-12 12:39:57)

Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|7117

mtb0minime wrote:

Quick question/issue: I'm going to be upgrading my processor since it's my bottleneck, and after reading reviews on Newegg, it seems that since I'm mainly using this PC for gaming, I should upgrade to a faster dual core as opposed to a quad-core. It makes sense, since I need the speed over multitasking, but I just want to confirm with you guys.


I've got an LGA775 socket (Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L), Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66 GHz. The dual core I'm looking at is E8500 Wolfdale 3.1 GHz. Could also get an E8600 @ 3.33 GHz, but it's $80 more. Is the upgrade even worth it? I'm going to be playing some BFBC2 a lot, and I also get major lag in big games like Saints Row 2 or GTA IV; so the processor would help, but I don't want to go overboard since I plan on building a whole new system in the coming months (hopefully).

Oh, and I've got a 500W power supply, in case that makes a difference. I've got a DVD burner, a DVD rom, 2 HDDs, and a HD 3850 hooked up.
Gaming is moving toward quad core ----> BFBC2.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7031|SE London

Ilocano wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

Quick question/issue: I'm going to be upgrading my processor since it's my bottleneck, and after reading reviews on Newegg, it seems that since I'm mainly using this PC for gaming, I should upgrade to a faster dual core as opposed to a quad-core. It makes sense, since I need the speed over multitasking, but I just want to confirm with you guys.


I've got an LGA775 socket (Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L), Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66 GHz. The dual core I'm looking at is E8500 Wolfdale 3.1 GHz. Could also get an E8600 @ 3.33 GHz, but it's $80 more. Is the upgrade even worth it? I'm going to be playing some BFBC2 a lot, and I also get major lag in big games like Saints Row 2 or GTA IV; so the processor would help, but I don't want to go overboard since I plan on building a whole new system in the coming months (hopefully).

Oh, and I've got a 500W power supply, in case that makes a difference. I've got a DVD burner, a DVD rom, 2 HDDs, and a HD 3850 hooked up.
Gaming is moving toward quad core ----> BFBC2.
Yeah, but really fucking slowly.....

The difference a top end CPU (as compared to a low end current one) makes for gaming is minimal and will remain minimal for a long time to come.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|7017|NYC / Hamburg

If you can push your budget, get a Q9550. It's a great chip. I wouldn't advise anything lower. The Q9400/Q9300 as well as the Q8xxx series have low clock rates and are terrible OCers.

Otherwise pick up a E8400.
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TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7070|Mhz

Hmm I'm getting the impression I may need to upgrade my e6600 for BC2 lol...
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6864|Finland

Going from E6600 to E8500 is waste.

Quad or OC your currrent one.
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FloppY_
­
+1,010|6736|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Going from E6600 to E8500 is waste.

Quad or OC your currrent one.
Now it is,, but I could definately feel a remarkable difference when I did my E6600->E8500

I did swap an anchient ATi card for a 4870 aswell tho'

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-02-12 14:25:08)

­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6238|Catherine Black

mtb0minime wrote:

HD 3850.
Jayyyyyzoose that's old.

You'll notice a big difference in more GPU dominated games (MW2 for example) if you upgrade that. Perhaps a 5770? That'll do you well for BC2, too.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7104

Well, as a matter of fact, after I finished typing my earlier post, I went to the Newegg site and right there on the front page was a deal for a 4770, so I bought that on the spot

I suppose I'll splurge and go for the Q9550 as well. I was wary of putting too much money towards upgrades when I plan on getting a whole new system soon, but I guess this will allow me the time to postpone that if necessary.

Besides, I don't/didn't need too powerful a GPU since my monitor's max resolution is 1280x1024 And I scrapped the idea of getting a new monitor, would rather upgrade the CPU and GPU, and a bigger/better monitor would only cause me more problems rather than fix any.
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6238|Catherine Black

mtb0minime wrote:

Well, as a matter of fact, after I finished typing my earlier post, I went to the Newegg site and right there on the front page was a deal for a 4770, so I bought that on the spot

I suppose I'll splurge and go for the Q9550 as well. I was wary of putting too much money towards upgrades when I plan on getting a whole new system soon, but I guess this will allow me the time to postpone that if necessary.

Besides, I don't/didn't need too powerful a GPU since my monitor's max resolution is 1280x1024 And I scrapped the idea of getting a new monitor, would rather upgrade the CPU and GPU, and a bigger/better monitor would only cause me more problems rather than fix any.
D: 4770 is a tiny upgrade..

Refer to this chart for further purchases;

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bes … 118-7.html

To notice a difference you should go up at least 3 tiers. I went from 4670 to a 5770, 4 tiers, and while the difference was worth the cost, it still wasn't vast

If you can afford another $70CA then get this.. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as … -_-Product

Last edited by Finray (2010-02-12 16:22:20)

https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7104

Too late Already ordered like 7 hours ago; impulse buy.
I didn't know Tom's had that tier system. All this time I was just going with their 3d Mark and various game charts.

Besides, I'm gonna put the extra money towards a better processor, especially since it's my current bottleneck.

Heh, but when I finally get a whole new system, I'll have a Radeon 3000, 4000, and 5000 in there
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6238|Catherine Black

mtb0minime wrote:

Too late Already ordered like 7 hours ago; impulse buy.
I didn't know Tom's had that tier system. All this time I was just going with their 3d Mark and various game charts.

Besides, I'm gonna put the extra money towards a better processor, especially since it's my current bottleneck.

Heh, but when I finally get a whole new system, I'll have a Radeon 3000, 4000, and 5000 in there
You know you can't crossfire them all, right?
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7104

Meh, figured. They have to be within a certain generation of each other right? Or some other random requirements. But in Crossfire you don't need the exact same card right? Right? I was sure about that part.
[HOF]Mercenary
o_O
+53|6628

mtb0minime wrote:

Meh, figured. They have to be within a certain generation of each other right? Or some other random requirements. But in Crossfire you don't need the exact same card right? Right? I was sure about that part.
It needs to be the same model, but the manufacturer can be different. Meaning, you can run a 4870 from xfx with one from sapphire but not a 4870 with a 4850.

The 4770 is still pretty solid, and popping them in crossfire is very good price to performance, easily outperforming the 4890 for less money.
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6238|Catherine Black

mtb0minime wrote:

Meh, figured. They have to be within a certain generation of each other right? Or some other random requirements. But in Crossfire you don't need the exact same card right? Right? I was sure about that part.
https://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/CF_combo_chart_Nov08.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7293|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Saw this at work today

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/391/sawatwork/13022010285.jpg
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/391/sawatwork/13022010286.jpg
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/391/sawatwork/13022010290.jpg

i7 920
6x2 GB DDR3 RAM
HD5870 TRIFIRE

Apparently, it's a 70 year old dude who has too much money and time on his hands
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|7017|NYC / Hamburg

Looks like an EE cooler. i7 965/975
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6864|Finland

Stock cooler on that machine.

*cries*

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-02-13 13:28:17)

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