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LAS VEGAS -- President Barack Obama is known for having a way with words, but some lawmakers from Nevada wish he would pipe down about trips to Sin City.

After sparking a firestorm of criticism from Nevada's elected officials for suggesting that people saving money for college shouldn't blow it in Las Vegas, Obama told U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in a letter that he wasn't saying anything negative about Las Vegas.

It was the second time since taking office that Obama singled out Las Vegas as a potential example of spending excessively.

"I was making the simple point that families use vacation dollars, not college tuition money, to have fun," Obama said, according to the letter released by Reid's office. "There is no place better to have fun than Vegas, one of our country's great destinations."

Obama said he always enjoys his visits to Las Vegas.

A White House spokesman referred to Obama's letter to Reid and said the administration had no further comment.

Perception and reputation are sensitive issues for Sin City as it struggles to find footing amid a two-year meltdown of foreclosures, bankruptcies and unemployment. Tourism is the Silver State's backbone, and several lawmakers said they were shocked that Obama singled out Las Vegas again after commenting last February that bailed-out banks shouldn't go to Las Vegas using taxpayer money.

"When times are tough, you tighten your belts," Obama said, according to a White House transcript of his appearance Tuesday at a high school in North Nashua, N.H.

"You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage," Obama said. "You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices."

The comments quickly sparked a flurry of reaction in the Silver State, which supported Obama in the 2008 election. Nevada had an unemployment rate of 13 percent in December.

Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman said during a hastily called news conference that Obama is no friend to Las Vegas and would not be welcomed here if he visits.

"I'll do everything I can to give him the boot," Goodman said. "This president is a real slow learner."

Goodman and others are worried that Obama's words will discourage visitors from coming to Las Vegas and depress the industry further.

"Enough is enough!" Democratic Congresswoman Shelley Berkley said in a statement. "President Obama needs to stop picking on Las Vegas and he needs to let Americans decide for themselves how and where to spend their hard-earned vacation dollars."

Nevada's tourism has been hit hard during the past two years as consumers everywhere tighten leisure spending and companies spend less on meetings and conventions.

Reid, one of Obama's closest allies, issued a statement headlined "Reid to Obama: 'Lay off Las Vegas"' and was unusually blunt in his reaction.

"The President needs to lay off Las Vegas and stop making it the poster child for where people shouldn't be spending their money," Reid said. "I would much rather tourists and business travelers spend their money in Las Vegas than spend it overseas."

Sen. John Ensign, a Republican, complained that Obama "failed to grasp the weight that his words carry."

"Once again he has threatened the struggling economy of Las Vegas," Ensign said, recalling what he characterized as Obama's "irresponsible" comment in February 2009.

Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons and Rep. Dean Heller, both Republicans, and Democratic Rep. Dina Titus also disparaged the president's remarks, while Republican candidates hoping to unseat Reid this year called for an apology.

One year ago, Obama commented during a town hall meeting in Elkhart, Ind., that corporations shouldn't use federal bailout money for trips to Las Vegas, the Super Bowl or corporate jets. Tourism and casino officials said the comment hurt the city as companies canceled meetings in Las Vegas and rescheduled them elsewhere.

Obama later said during a May 2009 trip to Nellis Air Force Base outside of Las Vegas that it was nice to get out of Washington and "there's nothing like a quick trip to Vegas in the middle of the week."

Goodman said he thought Obama had a "psychological hang-up" of using Las Vegas as an example of excessive spending, and that this time, an apology wouldn't be enough.

"He has to step up right away and say, you know, he wasn't thinking," Goodman said. "Sometimes when he's not using his monitors and reading what he says, he doesn't think. And this is one of those times he didn't think, and he should straighten out the record because he's been here, he knows Las Vegas is a great place."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02 … s-remarks/

Honestly, the country as a whole would probably be better off without Las Vegas but whatever, people can waste their money if they really want to. It's just not something that would ever excite me (and yes, I've been, and spent a total of $40 gambling over 3 days).
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"You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage," Obama said. "You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices."
Jay
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Macbeth wrote:

"You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage," Obama said. "You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices."
Yeah, it does look a bit hypocritical, no?
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prime example of : Do as I say ... not as I do
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Mekstizzle
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SEREMAKER wrote:

prime example of : Do as I say ... not as I do
i remember flaming maniac saying that here

the dick
Ticia
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SEREMAKER wrote:

prime example of : Do as I say ... not as I do
More like prime example of what idiotic stuff Fox news picks up.
SealXo
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obama shouldnt be telling me what i can and cant do with my money in the first place
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Ticia wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

prime example of : Do as I say ... not as I do
More like prime example of what idiotic stuff Fox news picks up.
more like a dumb ass missing the AP label




how about these other ones :

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/02/ … sinessnews

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100203/ap_ … _las_vegas

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 03169.html



they must be all idoitic
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SealXo wrote:

obama shouldnt be telling me what i can and cant do with my money in the first place
I think you should blow all your college money on a trip to Vegas just to show him.
Ticia
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SEREMAKER wrote:

Ticia wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

prime example of : Do as I say ... not as I do
More like prime example of what idiotic stuff Fox news picks up.
more like a dumb ass missing the AP label




how about these other ones :

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/02/ … sinessnews

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100203/ap_ … _las_vegas

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 03169.html



they must be all idoitic
Slow day in the media world i guess 

This is a non issue. Everyone who needs to save money shouldn't gamble it away just common sense.
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Doctor Strangelove wrote:

SealXo wrote:

obama shouldnt be telling me what i can and cant do with my money in the first place
I think you should blow all your college money on a trip to Vegas just to show him.
whered he come to this conclusion in the first place
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SealXo wrote:

obama shouldnt be telling me what i can and cant do with my money in the first place
He's basically telling Americans to stop buying useless shit and prioritize their money. Is that not good advice?
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Cybargs wrote:

SealXo wrote:

obama shouldnt be telling me what i can and cant do with my money in the first place
He's basically telling Americans to stop buying useless shit and prioritize their money. Is that not good advice?
then he should say that not rag on LV
Cybargs
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SealXo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

SealXo wrote:

obama shouldnt be telling me what i can and cant do with my money in the first place
He's basically telling Americans to stop buying useless shit and prioritize their money. Is that not good advice?
then he should say that not rag on LV
He just used LV as an example of excessive spending and how people blow away their futures just because of a gambling problem.

Might as well single out cali too.
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Jay
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SealXo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

SealXo wrote:

obama shouldnt be telling me what i can and cant do with my money in the first place
He's basically telling Americans to stop buying useless shit and prioritize their money. Is that not good advice?
then he should say that not rag on LV
No? Why not? Las Vegas has built it's reputation on being the Mecca of irresponsibility. "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas", no? They thrived on selling irresponsibility during the boom times but now that tourism is down and people are pinching their pennies they get butthurt when someone uses their own advertising against them? Please. We're not talking about family friendly Disney World here, we're talking about a place that gets off on calling itself Sin City. Of course people are going to hold it up as something negative when talking about financial responsibility.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


He's basically telling Americans to stop buying useless shit and prioritize their money. Is that not good advice?
then he should say that not rag on LV
No? Why not? Las Vegas has built it's reputation on being the Mecca of irresponsibility. "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas", no? They thrived on selling irresponsibility during the boom times but now that tourism is down and people are pinching their pennies they get butthurt when someone uses their own advertising against them? Please. We're not talking about family friendly Disney World here, we're talking about a place that gets off on calling itself Sin City. Of course people are going to hold it up as something negative when talking about financial responsibility.
Plus the all place is just so... tacky.
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"When times are tough, you tighten your belts," Obama said, according to a White House transcript of his appearance Tuesday at a high school in North Nashua, N.H."   hahahahaha

Thanks for the tip Obama... Don't buy a boat or go to Vegas if you can't afford it. 
Does anyone even listen to his speeches anymore?  He is in alternate universe.
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I'm not a LV fan i hate it but quite honestly Disney Land is overpriced shit to waste your money just as bad as vegas.

I mean serious that part of Anaheims on par with LV

and he sure as hell wouldn't have ragged on people who go to disneyland

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Jay
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SealXo wrote:

I'm not a LV fan i hate it but quite honestly Disney Land is overpriced shit to waste your money just as bad as vegas.

I mean serious that part of Anaheims on par with LV

and he sure as hell wouldn't have ragged on people who go to disneyland
Vegas was used as an example solely because of it's indulgence in irresponsibility over the years. Yes, there are probably worse places to spend a vacation but none have built a reputation based solely on telling people it's ok to be frivolous with money.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

SealXo wrote:

I'm not a LV fan i hate it but quite honestly Disney Land is overpriced shit to waste your money just as bad as vegas.

I mean serious that part of Anaheims on par with LV

and he sure as hell wouldn't have ragged on people who go to disneyland
Vegas was used as an example solely because of it's indulgence in irresponsibility over the years. Yes, there are probably worse places to spend a vacation but none have built a reputation based solely on telling people it's ok to be frivolous with money.
Ironic that he says that around the same time as he releases a budget with record spending and a record deficit.

"We simply cannot continue to spend as if deficits don't have consequences, as if waste doesn't matter, as if the hard-earned tax dollars of the American people can be treated like Monopoly money, as if we can ignore this challenge for another generation," Obama said.
President Barack Obama urged Congress on Monday to quickly approve a huge new shot of spending for recession relief and job creation, part of a record $3.8 trillion budget that would boost the deficit beyond any in the nation's history
Yes...irony IS ironic.

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The huge stimulus bill seems like quite the gamble when I've yet to see that it actually works -anywhere.  Then he doubled down and did another one.  Now that is is losing to there's talk of another.  Too much debt?  Go to the house and ask for a larger credit line?  If your friend or spouse behaved anything like this you'd say that they have a gambling problem.  But for the O?  All in a day's work.  Who has the problem.  Then he wants to stand up and preach fiscal responsibility.

Honestly, he can fuck off with telling me what I can and can't do with my money. 

I see the O's point, however saying things that will damage a city's economy, Vegas or be it any American city -is irresponsible.  Yet he did it, again.  If he wants to preach fiscal responsibility, he should be telling people to examine their personal budgets and curtail it to their income. 

The boat statement was retarded.  He wants to create jobs?  Yea don't buy that boat -put the builders outta business.  Then they can all run out and get federal jobs.  Right?

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With all the money that Las Vegas has made over the years, you would think they'd diversify their economy more.

Instead, the idiots decided to let tourism remain as their primary economic sector, which is probably the most vulnerable industry to the business cycle.

During economic booms, tourism skyrockets.  During recessions, it collapses.
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hey! i'm going to Vegas!
13rin
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Turquoise wrote:

With all the money that Las Vegas has made over the years, you would think they'd diversify their economy more.

Instead, the idiots decided to let tourism remain as their primary economic sector, which is probably the most vulnerable industry to the business cycle.

During economic booms, tourism skyrockets.  During recessions, it collapses.
Honestly, what would they diversify to?  The whole conception of Vegas was based upon gambling.  It a city in the middle of the desert.
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Jay
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

With all the money that Las Vegas has made over the years, you would think they'd diversify their economy more.

Instead, the idiots decided to let tourism remain as their primary economic sector, which is probably the most vulnerable industry to the business cycle.

During economic booms, tourism skyrockets.  During recessions, it collapses.
Honestly, what would they diversify to?  The whole conception of Vegas was based upon gambling.  It a city in the middle of the desert.
Yeah, they got all pissy about the nuclear waste the government wanted to store in Yucca Mountain. That would've been a boon to local jobs
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