11 Bravo
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I think something more should be done about this.  Poor people.  how would you stop this stuff?
 
"Men in Finland, like those in other western countries, can consume "exotic" sensual encounters both at home and abroad. While Finland has a very small immigrant population and tight immigration procedures, it is known that women are trafficked to Finland, mainly from Russian and the Baltic countries, for prostitution and other forms of sex trade. "

http://www.nikk.uio.no/?module=Articles … how;ID=519

Finland is a transit and destination country for women and girls trafficked from Russia, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Caucasus, China, and Thailand to and through Finland to France, Sweden, Italy, Canada, Spain, and the United States for the purpose of commercial sexual exploitation. Finland is a destination country for men and women trafficked from China, Pakistan, and Bangladesh for the purpose of forced labor; victims are exploited in the construction industry, restaurants, and as domestic servants.

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,, … b2d,0.html
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5988|College Park, MD
I'd execute the traffickers. If that doesn't work, hang them publicly.

edit: Either that or put them to work in camps for the remainder of their lives.

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2010-02-01 09:35:18)

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DonFck
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I've got a Thai massage parlor right downstairs, there are like 5 within 100 meters form here. I live in the local red light district it seems.
I need around tree fiddy.
11 Bravo
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+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio

DonFck wrote:

I've got a Thai massage parlor right downstairs, there are like 5 within 100 meters form here. I live in the local red light district it seems.
thats kind of weird.  around here those places are usually in the nasty parts of town.
Jenspm
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wait, where's the racism?
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11 Bravo
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Jenspm wrote:

wait, where's the racism?
sex trade not enough for you?

its in the article.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-02-01 09:41:32)

Cybargs
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11 Bravo wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

wait, where's the racism?
sex trade not enough for you?

its in the article.
Coz they don't like white women.

EU has a huge trafficking problem that mostly comes through from Kosovo...
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Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

wait, where's the racism?
sex trade not enough for you?

its in the article.
Coz they don't like white women.

EU has a huge trafficking problem that mostly comes through from Kosovo...
I learned this from the movie Taken too
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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BALTINS
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i've heard those stories where young girls are promised jobs abroad and once they arrive their passports are taken away and well..
Cybargs
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


sex trade not enough for you?

its in the article.
Coz they don't like white women.

EU has a huge trafficking problem that mostly comes through from Kosovo...
I learned this from the movie Taken too
Lel, I had to do an entire issue on Kosovo for MUN... Kosovo ain't that bad. Except it's more like Russia today with moar mooslims.
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Ilocano
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11 Bravo wrote:

DonFck wrote:

I've got a Thai massage parlor right downstairs, there are like 5 within 100 meters form here. I live in the local red light district it seems.
thats kind of weird.  around here those places are usually in the nasty parts of town.
Westminster is a nasty part of town?

Edit:  Nevermind.  I'm confusing you with GS.

Last edited by Ilocano (2010-02-01 10:39:36)

ruisleipa
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lol funny stuff right here +1
11 Bravo
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ruisleipa wrote:

lol funny stuff right here +1
im glad sex trade right outside your door is funny to you.
DonFck
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+3,227|6918|Finland

11 Bravo wrote:

DonFck wrote:

I've got a Thai massage parlor right downstairs, there are like 5 within 100 meters form here. I live in the local red light district it seems.
thats kind of weird.  around here those places are usually in the nasty parts of town.
They're all around the city centre, but there's just this cluster of them in my area, near the main bus station and railwaystation. Go figure.

Actually that article seems very incorrect in terms of motives (except for Russian/Baltic prostitution = basically slaves). However, I do understand that racism and low level of integration into the population are reasons why E.g. Thai/Vietnamese immigrants are forced to work in such places. The three main reasons I believe to be causes of this, as well as the reason why Kosovo Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, Iraqis, Iranis and Algerians mostly work in Kebab-restaurants/Pizzerias.

1. Little to no knowing of the Finnish language among first generation immigrants
2. There's a high level of prejudice among smaller company leadership/ownership. This is a fact, one which I despise greatly.
3. Foreign immigration in form of refugees in Finland is a very new phenomenon (20-25 years or so, dunno?) so not only is the system in constant tweaking mode, it can't IMHO be regarded as a v1.0 yet.

Give it 5-10 years, more of the children of these immigrants have gone through our school system and gained university degrees for free, the fascist shitfucks who lead small businesses today have died of cardiac arrest and even the gen. 1 immigrants have learned the language, it'll change. It's already happening in a very fast pace. 10 years ago, the situation was vastly different.

Be as it may, there will probably always be Thai massage parlors, and 90% will still offer you a happy ending.

That's why I laughed when just two months ago an evening newspaper headline read "Thai massage parlors sell sex". Well no shit? You been living under a rock?

P.S: From what I've seen, the Thai massage parlors are family businesses and private entrepreneurs. The Russian hookers however, that's the Russian Mafia at work. Their business is the problem, they're the ones trafficking and treating their hookers like shit.

BALTINS wrote:

i've heard those stories where young girls are promised jobs abroad and once they arrive their passports are taken away and well..
See above.
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ruisleipa
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11 Bravo wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

lol funny stuff right here +1
im glad sex trade right outside your door is funny to you.

FatherTed wrote:

brb googling sex trade in derbyshire
This.
eleven bravo
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Ilocano wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

DonFck wrote:

I've got a Thai massage parlor right downstairs, there are like 5 within 100 meters form here. I live in the local red light district it seems.
thats kind of weird.  around here those places are usually in the nasty parts of town.
Westminster is a nasty part of town?

Edit:  Nevermind.  I'm confusing you with GS.
I was thinking more along the lines of Arcadia or Monterey Park
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Ilocano
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eleven bravo wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


thats kind of weird.  around here those places are usually in the nasty parts of town.
Westminster is a nasty part of town?

Edit:  Nevermind.  I'm confusing you with GS.
I was thinking more along the lines of Arcadia or Monterey Park
Really?  Both of those have "McMansion" neighborhoods.
eleven bravo
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there are like 6 asian massage parlors in a few block radius
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Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
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eleven bravo wrote:

there are like 6 asian massage parlors in a few block radius
Oh, you got me interested.   Recommend any?  Not necessarily happy ending.  I just need some good upper body work.

I don't know if you've ever been stationed in Asia, but those hour long super cheap massage sessions are oh so good...
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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So Finland is comparable with Israel, see other threads, although Israel gets special treatment.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JI05Ak01.html
JERUSALEM - Israel continues to be a favorite destination for the trafficking of women for the sex industry - also known as the white slave trade - and for a form of modern slavery where migrant laborers from developing countries are exploited.

The US State Department placed Israel in Tier 2 position in its 2007 Trafficking in Persons report. Also, an Israeli court ruled against the country's work visa policy which forces foreign workers into indentured labor with a single employer.
The US State Department divides countries into three tiers. Tier 1 is for countries that have successfully implemented measures to control trafficking (most Western countries fall into this category). Tier 2 is for countries that are trying to eradicate this modern day slavery but still fail to meet the necessary standards. Tier 3 is reserved for countries that have not addressed the issue at the most basic level.

In 2006, Israel was on the US State Department's Watch List for people trafficking.

"This position falls between Tier 2 and Tier 3. The US applies economic sanctions to those countries which fall into Tier 3, but as we have a strong economic relationship with the US, Israel was given a warning and placed in a slightly higher category," said Lewkowicz.
So normally they would be subject to sanctions but instead get handouts? Nice.

Jerusalem - Thousands of foreign women have been smuggled into Israel and sold into prostitution, earning the criminal underworld millions of dollars a year, a parliamentary investigation has found.

For the last four years, between 3,000 and 5,000 women have been sold as sex slaves for 8,000 to 10,000 dollars and forced to work up to 18 hours a day, said the head of the inquiry, Zehava Gal-On, of the left-wing opposition Yahad party.

On average the women receive four dollars for every 120 dollars that clients pay their pimps for their services.

"We began this inquiry to investigate the extent of this phenomenon and raise political awareness of their plight and the brutal nature of the trafficking of women in this time of globalisation," said Gal-On.
http://www.news24.com/Content/World/New … _in_Israel
The girl gets 4 dollars, the pimp gets 116? Why wouldn't you be a pimp?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-02-01 18:08:58)

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ruisleipa
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11 Bravo wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

lol funny stuff right here +1
im glad sex trade right outside your door is funny to you.
Oh and trust me I live in a lovely town so no sex trade outside my door thank you very much.

Maybe I'm being overly sensitive but did you post this thread just cos I'm from Finland, or why pick on a Finnish-related story when there's much worse sex trafficking in other countries? I can't help thinking you don't give a shit about the sex workers at all.
blademaster
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DonFck wrote:

I believe to be causes of this, as well as the reason why Kosovo Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, Iraqis, Iranis and Algerians mostly work in Kebab-restaurants/Pizzerias.
Serbs have nothing to do with women trafficking we aren't Muslims get ur facts together, we are Eastern Orthodox, also we fought against the Albanians since they were overtaking our land then u and other European countries as well as America handed it over to them since they paid u good money which came from Women trafficking...

Last edited by blademaster (2010-02-02 00:09:30)

DonFck
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blademaster wrote:

DonFck wrote:

I believe to be causes of this, as well as the reason why Kosovo Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, Iraqis, Iranis and Algerians mostly work in Kebab-restaurants/Pizzerias.
Serbs have nothing to do with women trafficking we aren't Muslims get ur facts together, we are Eastern Orthodox, also we fought against the Albanians since they were overtaking our land then u and other European countries as well as America handed it over to them since they paid u good money which came from Women trafficking...
Serbs have nothing to do with trafficking in Finland, you are correct (as far as I know). It's nice to see that you DIDN'T read my post before jumping into conclusions.

I drew a correlation between Thai Massage parlors (where Far-Eastern immigrants work) and Kebab shops (where Middle-Eastern and Balkan immigrants work), ultimately blaming Finland and the Finnish system itself.
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ruisleipa
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DonFck wrote:

They're all around the city centre, but there's just this cluster of them in my area, near the main bus station and railwaystation. Go figure.
Turku seems to only have kebab shops and massage parlours as far as I know   They do call it the kebab centre of Finland - prolly cos Turku just wants to be capital of something heh
DonFck
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ruisleipa wrote:

DonFck wrote:

They're all around the city centre, but there's just this cluster of them in my area, near the main bus station and railwaystation. Go figure.
Turku seems to only have kebab shops and massage parlours as far as I know   They do call it the kebab centre of Finland - prolly cos Turku just wants to be capital of something heh
It certainly seems that way. For good kebab rolls, you either go to Turku or Gothenburg.

Yeah, Turku wants to be capital of something, the whole European Culture Capital 2011-thing is bullshit IMHO, especially when the term "culture" is looked at very limited by the decisionmakers. All subcultures have been forgotten as well as the local culture.

Oh yeah, then there's "Turku, the Christmas Capital of Finland". Lols.
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