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2010-01-27 18:17:20

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5988|College Park, MD

JohnG@lt wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Most people against it are afraid the "We're here, we're queer, get used to it" types will cause a ruckus.
True, but I kind of liken it to the pushback initially against the racial integration of the military. Truman made a bold move by integrating the military, and in the short run, there were certainly conflicts, but it was clearly the right thing to do in the long term.
Then there are issues with close quarters showering etc. In basic and AIT you're taking group showers and no one wants to shower with a meat gazer. If they're proven to be gay have them shower with the womenfolk

And there are issues with male soldiers raping their sisters-in-arms. That doesn't mean we should ban men.

edit: And there can still be a meat-gazer in your showers, you just wouldn't know it.

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2010-01-27 22:59:01

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JohnG@lt wrote:
Then there are issues with close quarters showering etc. In basic and AIT you're taking group showers and no one wants to shower with a meat gazer. If they're proven to be gay have them shower with the womenfolk

come on, anyone who's showered with people of the same sex has showered with gays, you just didn't know it. They're EVERYWHERE! (joke). But seriously, there are plenty of gay people in the armed forces like i all walks of life but they jusyt can't come out cos of all the homophobic concernes of the rest of the shaven-headed guys. Most of whom would like to be gay anyway, they just can't express themselves. Srsly.

2010-01-28 00:09:00

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JohnG@lt wrote:
Then there are issues with close quarters showering etc. In basic and AIT you're taking group showers and no one wants to shower with a meat gazer. If they're proven to be gay have them shower with the womenfolk

Because a gay man seeing another naked man will always make a pass at him? ... or perhaps seeing a naked gay man in the showers will surface your own gayness?

Ooooohh those scary gay people ...

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2010-01-28 00:15:57

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

Being deployed with mostly men... Getting no pussy for months at a time. Yeah not gay at all

Don't ask don't tell was pretty stupid anyway. From what I see most people in the military just don't give a fuck.

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2010-01-28 00:19:32

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7061|Moscow, Russia

JohnG@lt wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Most people against it are afraid the "We're here, we're queer, get used to it" types will cause a ruckus.
True, but I kind of liken it to the pushback initially against the racial integration of the military. Truman made a bold move by integrating the military, and in the short run, there were certainly conflicts, but it was clearly the right thing to do in the long term.
Then there are issues with close quarters showering etc. In basic and AIT you're taking group showers and no one wants to shower with a meat gazer. If they're proven to be gay have them shower with the womenfolk

so, soldiers are trained and are expected to be able to control and overcome stuff like fear of death and intensive physical pain - but being in shower with a person who finds them sexually attractive (or vice versa) would be an "issue", huh?

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2010-01-28 00:32:11

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

Shahter wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

True, but I kind of liken it to the pushback initially against the racial integration of the military. Truman made a bold move by integrating the military, and in the short run, there were certainly conflicts, but it was clearly the right thing to do in the long term.
Then there are issues with close quarters showering etc. In basic and AIT you're taking group showers and no one wants to shower with a meat gazer. If they're proven to be gay have them shower with the womenfolk
so, soldiers are trained and are expected to be able to control and overcome stuff like fear of death and intensive physical pain - but being in shower with a person who finds them sexually attractive (or vice versa) would be an "issue", huh?

Ok theres already so much drama in the military already. There are some people you can in no way change their mind about somethings because they come from a hick town. Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.

2010-01-28 00:35:23

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7129|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Cybargs wrote:
Shahter wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:

Then there are issues with close quarters showering etc. In basic and AIT you're taking group showers and no one wants to shower with a meat gazer. If they're proven to be gay have them shower with the womenfolk
so, soldiers are trained and are expected to be able to control and overcome stuff like fear of death and intensive physical pain - but being in shower with a person who finds them sexually attractive (or vice versa) would be an "issue", huh?
Ok theres already so much drama in the military already. There are some people you can in no way change their mind about somethings because they come from a hick town. Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.

Also, months of no sex would make straight men aggressive for pussy and gay men aggressive for bum-fun tbh.

2010-01-28 00:36:59

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

Sydney wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Shahter wrote:

so, soldiers are trained and are expected to be able to control and overcome stuff like fear of death and intensive physical pain - but being in shower with a person who finds them sexually attractive (or vice versa) would be an "issue", huh?
Ok theres already so much drama in the military already. There are some people you can in no way change their mind about somethings because they come from a hick town. Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.
Also, months of no sex would make straight men aggressive for pussy and gay men aggressive for bum-fun tbh.

Sometimes makes straight men gay

2010-01-28 00:41:58

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7129|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Cybargs wrote:
Sydney wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

Ok theres already so much drama in the military already. There are some people you can in no way change their mind about somethings because they come from a hick town. Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.
Also, months of no sex would make straight men aggressive for pussy and gay men aggressive for bum-fun tbh.
Sometimes makes straight men gay

Prison rape tbh.

2010-01-28 01:00:54

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7061|Moscow, Russia

Cybargs wrote:
Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.

no doubt. sun shines, wind blows, women have secrets, some people have issues with homosexuals. does that mean gays should be denied the opportunity to serve their country the same way straight people do?

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-01-28 01:11:52

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

Shahter wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.
no doubt. sun shines, wind blows, women have secrets, some people have issues with homosexuals. does that mean gays should be denied the opportunity to serve their country the same way straight people do?

Why do you think they implemented don't ask don't tell? Keep your personal life personal.

2010-01-28 01:50:43

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7061|Moscow, Russia

Cybargs wrote:
Shahter wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.
no doubt. sun shines, wind blows, women have secrets, some people have issues with homosexuals. does that mean gays should be denied the opportunity to serve their country the same way straight people do?
Why do you think they implemented don't ask don't tell?

i dunno. because those who implemented it were homophobal assholes?

Cybargs wrote:
Keep your personal life personal.

exactly. now tell me: how are ones sexual prefferenses any more a part of ones personal life than another one's problems with gays?
as i said numerous times, this issue is two fold - both sides need to stop making a fuss about homosexuality, because it happens in nature. gays are normal. when people come to terms with this - pretty obvious imo - fact the problem will disappear. but untill then anybody who discriminates against gays as well as gays who throw their homosexuality in the face of the society as if it was something special need to be taken care of.

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2010-01-28 02:04:50

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

Shahter wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Shahter wrote:

no doubt. sun shines, wind blows, women have secrets, some people have issues with homosexuals. does that mean gays should be denied the opportunity to serve their country the same way straight people do?
Why do you think they implemented don't ask don't tell?
i dunno. because those who implemented it were homophobal assholes?

Cybargs wrote:
Keep your personal life personal.
exactly. now tell me: how are ones sexual prefferenses any more a part of ones personal life than another one's problems with gays?
as i said numerous times, this issue is two fold - both sides need to stop making a fuss about homosexuality, because it happens in nature. gays are normal. when people come to terms with this - pretty obvious imo - fact the problem will disappear. but untill then anybody who discriminates against gays as well as gays who throw their homosexuality in the face of the society as if it was something special need to be taken care of.

Yes Bill Clinton is one of the worlds largest homophobes.

Shit I'm just explaining to you why it was implemented in the first place. I strongly disagree with it, but I can see why it was in place.

2010-01-28 03:41:19

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Cybargs wrote:
Shahter wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Some people will have issues with people that are gay NO MATTER WHAT.
no doubt. sun shines, wind blows, women have secrets, some people have issues with homosexuals. does that mean gays should be denied the opportunity to serve their country the same way straight people do?
Why do you think they implemented don't ask don't tell? Keep your personal life personal.

Fine... problem is if your personal life somehow becomes public there shouldn't be any consequences.

2010-01-28 03:51:15

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7061|Moscow, Russia

Cybargs wrote:
Shahter wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Why do you think they implemented don't ask don't tell?
i dunno. because those who implemented it were homophobal assholes?

Cybargs wrote:
Keep your personal life personal.
exactly. now tell me: how are ones sexual prefferenses any more a part of ones personal life than another one's problems with gays?
as i said numerous times, this issue is two fold - both sides need to stop making a fuss about homosexuality, because it happens in nature. gays are normal. when people come to terms with this - pretty obvious imo - fact the problem will disappear. but untill then anybody who discriminates against gays as well as gays who throw their homosexuality in the face of the society as if it was something special need to be taken care of.
Yes Bill Clinton is one of the worlds largest homophobes.

Shit I'm just explaining to you why it was implemented in the first place.

you explaining it to me? really? i know exactly what was the reasoning behind that bullshit, kiddo, thank you very much.

Cybargs wrote:
I strongly disagree with it, but I can see why it was in place.

orly? because usa army is full of cretins who can't get over their homophobia? these forums are supposedly visited by a number of american vets - they seem to disagree. so, why?

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-01-28 04:17:13

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

I'm fine with having gays in the US military.

Fuck Israel

2010-01-28 04:29:37

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6967|Disaster Free Zone

Dilbert_X wrote:
I'm fine with having gays in the US military.

But only if they wear pink hot pants.

2010-01-28 04:30:38

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

You can wear whatever you like sweetie.

Fuck Israel

2010-01-28 05:28:59

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6697|'Murka

DADT causes more problems than it solves.

Good fucking riddance, tbh.

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2010-01-28 05:36:21

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

FEOS wrote:
DADT causes more problems than it solves.

Good fucking riddance, tbh.

Didn't it waste a lot of money discharging personnel for coming out of the closet?

2010-01-28 06:43:26

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FEOS wrote:
DADT causes more problems than it solves.

Good fucking riddance, tbh.

Agreed. Whilst it's probably simpler if people kept their personal lives to themselves, they shouldn't be expected to have to do so, and they certainly shouldn't fire good soldiers because they enjoy a bit of cock now and again.

2010-01-28 10:16:08

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|7001|US

If you can do your duty, and not cause problems...
That's my opinion.

There are already homosexuals in the military, and people know this. They just can't officially be homosexual.
The DoD has kicked out more than a few capable soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen because of DADT.

2010-01-28 10:19:20

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5644|London, England

RAIMIUS wrote:
If you can do your duty, and not cause problems...
That's my opinion.

There are already homosexuals in the military, and people know this. They just can't officially be homosexual.
The DoD has kicked out more than a few capable soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen because of DADT.

This is a lie. If they kicked all the homos out of the air farce there wouldn't be anyone left

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2010-01-28 10:23:59

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5760|Ventura, California

Spark wrote:
i see that not too many of you bothered to click the link, if you're all on his back for "letting gays into the military"

Who gives a crap? Despite all the Obama praising before the election I think he's pretty much proved he's an incompetent fuck.

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2010-01-28 10:30:52

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7002

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Spark wrote:
i see that not too many of you bothered to click the link, if you're all on his back for "letting gays into the military"
Who gives a crap? Despite all the Obama praising before the election I think he's pretty much proved he's an incompetent fuck.

Better than Bush.

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