Dumbazz_noob
Member
+5|6769
I have searched the forums and Googled trying to find a definitive answer on what is an illeagal High Point Server. I understand the concept, but what is the exact config that is OK and what config makes it break the ROE set up by EA.

The OFficial ROE says:
§1.8 Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

This would include but not limited to:

    * § Knife-Pistol-Revive
    * § Knife-Pistol only Servers
    * § Knife only Servers
    * § High Points Servers ****

*****But I don't see any guidance on what this means exactly.

Then looking on Ea's site:

http://www.ea.com/official/battlefield/ … erpolicies

they give approved configurations as:

Min Players: 16
sv.password = empty string. Ranked servers may not be password protected. Ranked servers are intended to be available to all players.
sv.numPlayersNeededToStart = (6 for maxPlayers 16, 10 for 32, 10 for 64)
sv.spawnTime 15
sv.manDownTime 15
sv.ticketRatio 100
sv.teamRatioPercent 100
sv.punkBuster 1

and even specifically state " We do permit map sizes to be defined independently of maximum players "

so if I play on a server running a 64 player map with 16 players, 320 tickets and they require 10 players to start a round ......is this a  valid server to play on or would this be a high point server ???

It doesn't advertise as a HIgh Point Server any where and I don't want to get my stats wiped out.

Last edited by Dumbazz_noob (2006-04-20 16:08:23)

INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6866|Denver, CO
right, you cannot change the above settings.  so in the case of your example it would go against the ROE if the ticket Ratio is more than 100.  But, if they changed it to 100 then it would be a legal configuration.

Last edited by INCSOC (2006-04-20 16:08:12)

Defiance
Member
+438|6858

Meh. I like high points servers. It's a bitch to find a good map to get some awards on. What does expert command need, 35 minutes?

On HP servers I've earned:

Vet Command.
Vet Repair.
Aerial Service.

I don't see it as stat padding.

EDIT: These servers had ticket ratio to "100" with over 300 tickets. The settings on those servers were legitimate.

The only time I've played on higher is an unranked stunt server for my clan at something like 5000 ticket ratio...

Last edited by Defiance (2006-04-20 16:10:04)

Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6888
i think he meant 330 tickets, which is the default starting tickets on large maps for the team that starts with no capturable flags, IE the USMC on dragon valley and karkand.
Dumbazz_noob
Member
+5|6769
yes .... 330 tickets ..thanks
nodehopper
Member
+56|6819
So the 16 players on a 64 player map with 330 tickets server is not an illegal High Points Server configuration???

I have always avoided those thinking that was against EA rules.

What is the tell tale part of the configuration that is the key that makes it against EA rules, just that the ticket ration is not 100 or is it something else? I agree with Dumbazz that EA says that HIGH POINT SERVERS=BAD but leave the definition undefined.

(Jeez....did I just say I agreed with a Dumbazz Noob. I need a vacation!)
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|6952|Dallas
I play on a server every day that is a 16 man server running 64 man size maps.  The ticket ratio is 100 which makes the starting ticket count 300 to 300 (respectivly).

Your telling me that this is illegal?
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|6834|Peoria

Defiance wrote:

Meh. I like high points servers. It's a bitch to find a good map to get some awards on. What does expert command need, 35 minutes?
Kubra Dam. Matches take forever.
Hyper
Banned
+154|6938

Cougar wrote:

I play on a server every day that is a 16 man server running 64 man size maps.  The ticket ratio is 100 which makes the starting ticket count 300 to 300 (respectivly).

Your telling me that this is illegal?
please use search ( OP )
we have discussed this a few times already.
high point servers ( large maps , low players ) are perfectly legal as long as you play the game the way it in intended.
Talon
Stop reading this and look at my post
+341|6947
All it gets you is high round scores. It takes so long for each round to finish you ned up with the same amount of points anyway.
*OL*JoseyWales
Member
+8|6889|Phoenix Arizona
nice to see you in OUR server (SG-3) Cougar, your a fun challenge
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|6952|Dallas

Hyper wrote:

Cougar wrote:

I play on a server every day that is a 16 man server running 64 man size maps.  The ticket ratio is 100 which makes the starting ticket count 300 to 300 (respectivly).

Your telling me that this is illegal?
please use search ( OP )
we have discussed this a few times already.
high point servers ( large maps , low players ) are perfectly legal as long as you play the game the way it in intended.
What the fuck!?  I'm posting in a thread about high point server specs, WHY THE FUCK DO I NEED TO SEARCH!?

Read the sig you cocksmoker, I don't search.  Also your barking up the wrong tree, go pull your search Nazi bullshit with the asshat who started the thread.

STFU.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|6952|Dallas

*OL*JoseyWales wrote:

nice to see you in OUR server (SG-3) Cougar, your a fun challenge
Also, WTF are YOU talking about.  I have no idea who you are and frankly, you do not deserve to be in my presence or address me.

Thank you.
BillyMack
Member
+5|6818
Cougar...poor guy....
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6866|Denver, CO
lol Cougar
Dumbazz_noob
Member
+5|6769
I did Search....Didn't find anything Definitive. I even quote from 2 of EA's sites. I think I did a respectable amount of research before posting. Cougar....take a Valium, drink a little cheap Whisky, watch some Springer and don't call me an ASSHAT!!!

Thank you VERY much.

Last edited by Dumbazz_noob (2006-04-21 16:14:48)

RedVigor
Member
+3|6872
Go on ladies swing those handbags
Hyper
Banned
+154|6938

Cougar wrote:

Hyper wrote:

Cougar wrote:

I play on a server every day that is a 16 man server running 64 man size maps.  The ticket ratio is 100 which makes the starting ticket count 300 to 300 (respectivly).

Your telling me that this is illegal?
please use search ( OP )
we have discussed this a few times already.
high point servers ( large maps , low players ) are perfectly legal as long as you play the game the way it in intended.
What the fuck!?  I'm posting in a thread about high point server specs, WHY THE FUCK DO I NEED TO SEARCH!?

Read the sig you cocksmoker, I don't search.  Also your barking up the wrong tree, go pull your search Nazi bullshit with the asshat who started the thread.

STFU.
see where it says OP?
hey genius that stands for ORIGINAL POSTER
andy31419
Member
+1|6936|Savannah - GA
The way I look at it, is because EA trys to control the servers so much, that when I do a search with BFHQ for only ranked servers, then That is what I should get with no fears of being on an illegal server.  I don't know if each one is following the rules for ranked servers.  I manage an internet company and we wanted to establish a ranked server for our customers and EA told us no that we had to go throught them or a partner.  So if it is on the net as Ranked in BFHQ then it should be valid.  They should shut the servers and admins down for violations not users who may not know better.
Dumbazz_noob
Member
+5|6769
Andy31419 .....So you are saying that if I filter for only ranked servers and I find a Pistol and Knife server or an illegal High Points Server, I am not going to get into trouble if I log on and play? I am not sure that what you are saying is completely the case. I am sure that an ilegally run server will get the admins in trouble with EA, but will EA also go after the players who play on a P&K or High Point Server that doesn't conform to the ROE?

Last edited by Dumbazz_noob (2006-04-24 12:39:13)

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