So what's your argument?rdx-fx wrote:
Try living in Alaska for a few years.Spark wrote:
well he's basically described how we live here in aus except here the situation is even more extreme. the phrase "tyranny of distance" came into being for a reason.
No, I've just pointed out that I guess neither of us has an argument to begin with.FEOS wrote:
And where is your evidence that their system provides a more skilled workforce?Turquoise wrote:
Where is your evidence that the current system is best? Or that we have the most productive workforce? Or that the size of our economy has fuckall to do with student loans?FEOS wrote:
And where do you get that? Is that why our economy is the world's largest and our workforce is the most productive?
Get over your euro-envy, Turq. There's good and bad there, there's good and bad here. The "what works in nearly every other First World country" is seriously getting old. You haven't provided anything, argument-wise, beyond that for while...regardless of topic. Certainly no facts or data.
You feeling OK?
Just because something works elsewhere 1) doesn't mean it will work here and 2) doesn't mean what we have doesn't work either. There is more than one way to do many different things, Turq.
I can play that game too you know.
You've pointed out the flaw in your own position, Turq.
The difference being that I never made that argument.Turquoise wrote:
No, I've just pointed out that I guess neither of us has an argument to begin with.FEOS wrote:
And where is your evidence that their system provides a more skilled workforce?Turquoise wrote:
Where is your evidence that the current system is best? Or that we have the most productive workforce? Or that the size of our economy has fuckall to do with student loans?
I can play that game too you know.
You've pointed out the flaw in your own position, Turq.
There's no way I can conclusively prove that what works in other countries can work here, but there's no way that you can prove it can't.
But isn't your entire population essentially clustered along the east coast?Spark wrote:
well he's basically described how we live here in aus except here the situation is even more extreme. the phrase "tyranny of distance" came into being for a reason.11 Bravo wrote:
what the hell does that have to do with it?DrunkFace wrote:
lol seriously, that's an awesome argument to use when talking to someone from Australia...
"clustered" is a relative term. The coast is about 3000km long.FEOS wrote:
But isn't your entire population essentially clustered along the east coast?Spark wrote:
well he's basically described how we live here in aus except here the situation is even more extreme. the phrase "tyranny of distance" came into being for a reason.11 Bravo wrote:
what the hell does that have to do with it?
The key difference is that ours is strewn across the continent, both urban and rural, with large populations of both. We even have large population centers in our version of the "outback".
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We've got a large population "cluster" along our east coast, as well...and I think it's at least as long (so to speak). I'm talking about the distribution across the country...which is, I believe, what G@lt was getting at in his post (it was G@lt, wasn't it?).Spark wrote:
"clustered" is a relative term. The coast is about 3000km long.FEOS wrote:
But isn't your entire population essentially clustered along the east coast?Spark wrote:
well he's basically described how we live here in aus except here the situation is even more extreme. the phrase "tyranny of distance" came into being for a reason.
The key difference is that ours is strewn across the continent, both urban and rural, with large populations of both. We even have large population centers in our version of the "outback".
his point that america is in a unique situation because people live a long, long way from each other and the cities are not high-density urban environments but rather lower-denisty sprawling suburban developments. hence the reliance on cars/FEOS wrote:
We've got a large population "cluster" along our east coast, as well...and I think it's at least as long (so to speak). I'm talking about the distribution across the country...which is, I believe, what G@lt was getting at in his post (it was G@lt, wasn't it?).Spark wrote:
"clustered" is a relative term. The coast is about 3000km long.FEOS wrote:
But isn't your entire population essentially clustered along the east coast?
The key difference is that ours is strewn across the continent, both urban and rural, with large populations of both. We even have large population centers in our version of the "outback".
Probably the US is unique in the scope of the situation, not the instantiation of the situation.Spark wrote:
his point that america is in a unique situation because people live a long, long way from each other and the cities are not high-density urban environments but rather lower-denisty sprawling suburban developments. hence the reliance on cars/FEOS wrote:
We've got a large population "cluster" along our east coast, as well...and I think it's at least as long (so to speak). I'm talking about the distribution across the country...which is, I believe, what G@lt was getting at in his post (it was G@lt, wasn't it?).Spark wrote:
"clustered" is a relative term. The coast is about 3000km long.
my point is that america is not unique in that respect at all. we are the most car-dependant country on the planet according to some - there's an abc minidoc on the 7:30 report tomorrow evening on this very topic, if anyone from aus is interested (although i suspect no one will watch. it'll be on iview regardless).
I made an argument, you made a counterargument.FEOS wrote:
The difference being that I never made that argument.
You did.
It's not semantics. You argued that something should be implemented here simply because it was implemented in other First World countries.Turquoise wrote:
I made an argument, you made a counterargument.FEOS wrote:
The difference being that I never made that argument.
You did.
I really don't want to argue over semantics though.
