From the documentaries I have watched, there were plenty of Japanese on the island taking pictures of Pearl Harbor for the planning.11 Bravo wrote:
these guys were doing a covert op from day one. the planning was done before they arrived in the US.lowing wrote:
This is true, I guess I never really considered that POV before, a very valid point. However could an argument be made that WW2 didn't actually start on Dec 7th for the US, that it started sometime in mid 1940 with the planning of the attack?, I doubt many are gunna subscribe to that11 Bravo wrote:
wrong dead fucking wrong. the attack began when they moved to the US and started flight school and such. sept 11 was the end of the attack. so, it began in the late 90's.
not all the time. but, when the first response to a thread is some smart ass fucking remark like "paging lowing" or "inb4lowing."...the thread has already gone to shit and was made for one reason and one reason only. and that reason is not to get other peoples input.nlsme1 wrote:
So balance is not providing any input into the matter other then someone is disagreeing with him? I see. I hope he doesn't accidentally make a mess of himself then!!11 Bravo wrote:
i have criticized lowing many times. but, its not so much jerking his cock you see. its more like providing some fucking balance.nlsme1 wrote:
It's even funnier seeing the same people stroking his cock all the time. And look who has all the karma, sure as shit not me.
There's plenty of blame to go around but don't fall into the trap of trying to push the 9/11 attack onto the Clinton administration. Yes, they dropped the ball but so did Rice and Bush.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Seeings as how I am the ONLY one still debating you, I take it that his comment was directed at me. Now he didn't make any statement agreeing with you or not, he just litterally said something that was just stroking your cock. IM not a regular, im not karma whore, he made no point about the debate other then people disagreed with you. SO yeah he was just stroking your cock.lowing wrote:
This is true, he has criticized me more time than I like to think about. I hate it to because I respect his opinions on many issues.11 Bravo wrote:
i have criticized lowing many times. but, its not so much jerking his cock you see. its more like providing some fucking balance.nlsme1 wrote:
It's even funnier seeing the same people stroking his cock all the time. And look who has all the karma, sure as shit not me.
It is kinda weird however that to agree with me is nothing more than "stroking my cock". It has nothing to do with maybe having a valid point.
But to disagree with me, and call me every name in the book in the process, now that is the mark of a masterdebater, and cause for knighthood in this forum.
true i have seen that. we can really split hairs about this. but i would say that is still planning and not an attack. i dunno. i guess it all comes down to how you define what.lowing wrote:
From the documentaries I have watched, there were plenty of Japanese on the island taking pictures of Pearl Harbor for the planning.11 Bravo wrote:
these guys were doing a covert op from day one. the planning was done before they arrived in the US.lowing wrote:
This is true, I guess I never really considered that POV before, a very valid point. However could an argument be made that WW2 didn't actually start on Dec 7th for the US, that it started sometime in mid 1940 with the planning of the attack?, I doubt many are gunna subscribe to that
This is Lowing's thread. You are confusing me here marine. So I can only respond to Lowing's thread if my imput is no different then his. BTW 1248211 Bravo wrote:
not all the time. but, when the first response to a thread is some smart ass fucking remark like "paging lowing" or "inb4lowing."...the thread has already gone to shit and was made for one reason and one reason only. and that reason is not to get other peoples input.nlsme1 wrote:
So balance is not providing any input into the matter other then someone is disagreeing with him? I see. I hope he doesn't accidentally make a mess of himself then!!11 Bravo wrote:
i have criticized lowing many times. but, its not so much jerking his cock you see. its more like providing some fucking balance.
Well I see the flight scools as planning the attack. Nobody was hurt till 9/11. The day the attack happened. Even Bush said ""TODAY, we were attacked".11 Bravo wrote:
true i have seen that. we can really split hairs about this. but i would say that is still planning and not an attack. i dunno. i guess it all comes down to how you define what.lowing wrote:
From the documentaries I have watched, there were plenty of Japanese on the island taking pictures of Pearl Harbor for the planning.11 Bravo wrote:
these guys were doing a covert op from day one. the planning was done before they arrived in the US.
Well since you admittedly are not a regular in this forum I can assure you marine, is not one of my fans. It was a general obervation of this entire forum on his part more than him sticking up for me I would assume. Marine has done little to stick up for my posts, or even agree with them.nlsme1 wrote:
Seeings as how I am the ONLY one still debating you, I take it that his comment was directed at me. Now he didn't make any statement agreeing with you or not, he just litterally said something that was just stroking your cock. IM not a regular, im not karma whore, he made no point about the debate other then people disagreed with you. SO yeah he was just stroking your cock.lowing wrote:
This is true, he has criticized me more time than I like to think about. I hate it to because I respect his opinions on many issues.11 Bravo wrote:
i have criticized lowing many times. but, its not so much jerking his cock you see. its more like providing some fucking balance.
It is kinda weird however that to agree with me is nothing more than "stroking my cock". It has nothing to do with maybe having a valid point.
But to disagree with me, and call me every name in the book in the process, now that is the mark of a masterdebater, and cause for knighthood in this forum.
How so? By not taking pre-emptive measures?JohnG@lt wrote:
There's plenty of blame to go around but don't fall into the trap of trying to push the 9/11 attack onto the Clinton administration. Yes, they dropped the ball but so did Rice and Bush.
Hell he is called a murderer, bbaby killer, and Hitler and a war criminal for doing something AFTER 911. What would he be if he did something before hand?
Lowing.
You are a upper echelon forum user, and a target for no other reason. Stop wasting your time debating with mental fleas.
" stroking your cock? "
Not worthy of addresss tbh.
You are a upper echelon forum user, and a target for no other reason. Stop wasting your time debating with mental fleas.
" stroking your cock? "
Not worthy of addresss tbh.
I may not be a regular poster, but I frequant enough to see you and Marine have a lot of the same idealogies.lowing wrote:
Well since you admittedly are not a regular in this forum I can assure you marine, is not one of my fans. It was a general obervation of this entire forum on his part more than him sticking up for me I would assume. Marine has done little to stick up for my posts, or even agree with them.nlsme1 wrote:
Seeings as how I am the ONLY one still debating you, I take it that his comment was directed at me. Now he didn't make any statement agreeing with you or not, he just litterally said something that was just stroking your cock. IM not a regular, im not karma whore, he made no point about the debate other then people disagreed with you. SO yeah he was just stroking your cock.lowing wrote:
This is true, he has criticized me more time than I like to think about. I hate it to because I respect his opinions on many issues.
It is kinda weird however that to agree with me is nothing more than "stroking my cock". It has nothing to do with maybe having a valid point.
But to disagree with me, and call me every name in the book in the process, now that is the mark of a masterdebater, and cause for knighthood in this forum.
ATG you betta be trollin'
mental fleas?
lowing is like the biggest oxymoron existing in this 'debate' forum, in that his style of 'intelligent debate' involves ramming the same spiel down your throat in every single thread and retorting with the exact same counter-arguments. it's fun to hop on the Lowing carousel, but most certainly not because it's some sort of intellectual rollercoaster. jeeeeesus.
mental fleas?
lowing is like the biggest oxymoron existing in this 'debate' forum, in that his style of 'intelligent debate' involves ramming the same spiel down your throat in every single thread and retorting with the exact same counter-arguments. it's fun to hop on the Lowing carousel, but most certainly not because it's some sort of intellectual rollercoaster. jeeeeesus.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Not addressing that so much, I am more agreeing with Marines' observations of this forum. Appreciate it thoughATG wrote:
Lowing.
You are a upper echelon forum user, and a target for no other reason. Stop wasting your time debating with mental fleas.
" stroking your cock? "
Not worthy of addresss tbh.
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Awww, here we go again. Get your karmas ready boys.Uzique wrote:
ATG you betta be trollin'
mental fleas?
lowing is like the biggest oxymoron existing in this 'debate' forum, in that his style of 'intelligent debate' involves ramming the same spiel down your throat in every single thread and retorting with the exact same counter-arguments. it's fun to hop on the Lowing carousel, but most certainly not because it's some sort of intellectual rollercoaster. jeeeeesus.
In fairness to me. When someone addresses my posts referring to racism or Islam, when what I said had nothing to do with either, I will take a stand and say I do not start those "debates".
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That wasn't directed at lowing. That was a reply to marine. But thanks for your insults too.ATG wrote:
Lowing.
You are a upper echelon forum user, and a target for no other reason. Stop wasting your time debating with mental fleas.
" stroking your cock? "
Not worthy of addresss tbh.
Presidents in general get more blame/praise than they should. It's really nothing more than a figurehead position with severely limited power.lowing wrote:
How so? By not taking pre-emptive measures?JohnG@lt wrote:
There's plenty of blame to go around but don't fall into the trap of trying to push the 9/11 attack onto the Clinton administration. Yes, they dropped the ball but so did Rice and Bush.
Hell he is called a murderer, bbaby killer, and Hitler and a war criminal for doing something AFTER 911. What would he be if he did something before hand?
If he did in fact have a report on his desk describing the 9/11 attacks then he is at least partially responsible. The FBI dropped the ball by not arresting them before the attack and should get most of the blame.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
You could ignore them and stay on topic ya knowlowing wrote:
Awww, here we go again. Get your karmas ready boys.Uzique wrote:
ATG you betta be trollin'
mental fleas?
lowing is like the biggest oxymoron existing in this 'debate' forum, in that his style of 'intelligent debate' involves ramming the same spiel down your throat in every single thread and retorting with the exact same counter-arguments. it's fun to hop on the Lowing carousel, but most certainly not because it's some sort of intellectual rollercoaster. jeeeeesus.
In fairness to me. When someone addreesses my posts referring to racism or Islam, when what I said had nothing to do with either, I will take a stand and say I do not start those "debates".
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
no duh. you are confusing yourself. i was speaking in general..hence why i said DST.nlsme1 wrote:
This is Lowing's thread. You are confusing me here marine. So I can only respond to Lowing's thread if my imput is no different then his. BTW 1248211 Bravo wrote:
not all the time. but, when the first response to a thread is some smart ass fucking remark like "paging lowing" or "inb4lowing."...the thread has already gone to shit and was made for one reason and one reason only. and that reason is not to get other peoples input.nlsme1 wrote:
So balance is not providing any input into the matter other then someone is disagreeing with him? I see. I hope he doesn't accidentally make a mess of himself then!!
On that note I AM SORRY.11 Bravo wrote:
no duh. you are confusing yourself. i was speaking in general..hence why i said DST.nlsme1 wrote:
This is Lowing's thread. You are confusing me here marine. So I can only respond to Lowing's thread if my imput is no different then his. BTW 1248211 Bravo wrote:
not all the time. but, when the first response to a thread is some smart ass fucking remark like "paging lowing" or "inb4lowing."...the thread has already gone to shit and was made for one reason and one reason only. and that reason is not to get other peoples input.
Well, Islrael pre-emptively struck during a build up of troops, threats and closure of its waterways, yet they are blamed for starting the war. So all of the US/Bush haters would have an even bigger field day if Bush had struck before the attacks.JohnG@lt wrote:
Presidents in general get more blame/praise than they should. It's really nothing more than a figurehead position with severely limited power.lowing wrote:
How so? By not taking pre-emptive measures?JohnG@lt wrote:
There's plenty of blame to go around but don't fall into the trap of trying to push the 9/11 attack onto the Clinton administration. Yes, they dropped the ball but so did Rice and Bush.
Hell he is called a murderer, bbaby killer, and Hitler and a war criminal for doing something AFTER 911. What would he be if he did something before hand?
If he did in fact have a report on his desk describing the 9/11 attacks then he is at least partially responsible. The FBI dropped the ball by not arresting them before the attack and should get most of the blame.
lolwut? so if i take a platoon and go into a country with the plans of blowing something up, it isnt an attack until something blows up? is it not sex until you blow your load? i mean really. take it from someone who had to plan military style attacks.nlsme1 wrote:
Well I see the flight scools as planning the attack. Nobody was hurt till 9/11. The day the attack happened. Even Bush said ""TODAY, we were attacked".
Sorry, ain't built that way. but at least you acknowledge the truth of it.JohnG@lt wrote:
You could ignore them and stay on topic ya knowlowing wrote:
Awww, here we go again. Get your karmas ready boys.Uzique wrote:
ATG you betta be trollin'
mental fleas?
lowing is like the biggest oxymoron existing in this 'debate' forum, in that his style of 'intelligent debate' involves ramming the same spiel down your throat in every single thread and retorting with the exact same counter-arguments. it's fun to hop on the Lowing carousel, but most certainly not because it's some sort of intellectual rollercoaster. jeeeeesus.
In fairness to me. When someone addreesses my posts referring to racism or Islam, when what I said had nothing to do with either, I will take a stand and say I do not start those "debates".
I didn't say a foreign strike. The hijackers were on US soil and should've been arrested.lowing wrote:
Well, Islrael pre-emptively struck during a build up of troops, threats and closure of its waterways, yet they are blamed for starting the war. So all of the US/Bush haters would have an even bigger field day if Bush had struck before the attacks.JohnG@lt wrote:
Presidents in general get more blame/praise than they should. It's really nothing more than a figurehead position with severely limited power.lowing wrote:
How so? By not taking pre-emptive measures?
Hell he is called a murderer, bbaby killer, and Hitler and a war criminal for doing something AFTER 911. What would he be if he did something before hand?
If he did in fact have a report on his desk describing the 9/11 attacks then he is at least partially responsible. The FBI dropped the ball by not arresting them before the attack and should get most of the blame.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
that is a surface problem, the underlying problem was then and is now, terrorism and its infrastructure, and its general support against the west.JohnG@lt wrote:
I didn't say a foreign strike. The hijackers were on US soil and should've been arrested.lowing wrote:
Well, Islrael pre-emptively struck during a build up of troops, threats and closure of its waterways, yet they are blamed for starting the war. So all of the US/Bush haters would have an even bigger field day if Bush had struck before the attacks.JohnG@lt wrote:
Presidents in general get more blame/praise than they should. It's really nothing more than a figurehead position with severely limited power.
If he did in fact have a report on his desk describing the 9/11 attacks then he is at least partially responsible. The FBI dropped the ball by not arresting them before the attack and should get most of the blame.
Also now you are getting into profiling issues and fuckin' privacy issues and their fuckin' rights. the list is endless
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I was in the millitary too. There is a big differance between a millitary occupation, and some blowfuck taking flight lessons. Would you take said platoon into a country, hide for 2 years while going to their schools?
How bout this, what if they chickened out and left the country on 9/11, would you still have considered it an attack?
How bout this, what if they chickened out and left the country on 9/11, would you still have considered it an attack?