Poll

Have you ever had your opinion changed due to a DST thread?

Yes, totally new opinion18%18% - 11
Considered new ideas/thoughts but basically the same45%45% - 27
No.18%18% - 11
I don't want a new opinion, I just like e-arguing3%3% - 2
Give me a good argument and see. Most of em are shit.13%13% - 8
Total: 59
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio
cut and paste from the web isnt much either.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX
Who is hating?
Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter, its whether you can come up with an argument which knocks mine down which does matter.

Evidence used to back up arguments is more useful than 'I'm right because I'm who I say I am' too.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-01-19 15:48:26)

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6691|North Carolina
I've changed my views over time, partly from conversations here.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:

Who is hating?
Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter, its whether you can come up with an argument which knocks mine down which does matter.

Evidence used to back up arguments is more useful than 'I'm right because I'm who I say I am' too.
unless you see something first hand, you are taking someones word about it.  why some tool at the bbc is more reliable than some soldier is an odd thing.
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7061|Moscow, Russia
well, i've certainly changed my view on one thing: i thought i could actually speak english. apparently, i can't. at all.

other then that - nah, not really. these forums are mostly filled with people so indoctrinated by their nation's propaganda it would have been funny if it wasn't so sad.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

11 Bravo wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Who is hating?
Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter, its whether you can come up with an argument which knocks mine down which does matter.

Evidence used to back up arguments is more useful than 'I'm right because I'm who I say I am' too.
unless you see something first hand, you are taking someones word about it.  why some tool at the bbc is more reliable than some soldier is an odd thing.
But if the reporter has seen something I don't need the opinion of a soldier who hasn't.
The 'I was in Iraq, therefore I know everything about Iraq and everything that happened there' argument fails too.
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6697|'Murka

Shahter wrote:

well, i've certainly changed my view on one thing: i thought i could actually speak english. apparently, i can't. at all.

other then that - nah, not really. these forums are mostly filled with people so indoctrinated by their nation's propaganda it would have been funny if it wasn't so sad.
Irony.

Pot/kettle.

@ OP: Yes.

Last edited by FEOS (2010-01-20 03:44:55)

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― Albert Einstein

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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6961|Canberra, AUS
would be interested to see what people have changed their minds on:

for me - the iraq surge (was against, changed to a cautious for)
gun control (was militant against, now "context-dependant"/cautious for)
are the ones i can think of off the top of my head

but there are more subtle "changes" that i've noticed as well, more in tone and outlook than anything else.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

ANYONE that comes into this forum constantly ranting, raving, throwing fits, personally attacking, demanding you concede a point, etc..is a real life idiot.
Oh thats funny
I have got to be one of the most hated people in this forum and why?
No-one hates YOU, but your arguments are pretty dumb and not based on anything coherent.
Don't look now Dilbert, but you are one of the one of which I speak.

Can't help how you feel about my arguments, and I would be lying if I said I cared. However, if they are so unfounded, youy should be able to do more than merely dismiss them, or deny them, while throwing personal attacks. You might wanna try a counter argument
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX
I've probably relaxed my view on cannabis a little, still doesn't mean I think its good.

Still amazed there are people who still try to justify the WMD business, or trust the CIA etc, given everything we know now.
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Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7052|UK

Shahter wrote:

well, i've certainly changed my view on one thing: i thought i could actually speak english. apparently, i can't. at all.

other then that - nah, not really. these forums are mostly filled with people so indoctrinated by their nation's propaganda it would have been funny if it wasn't so sad.
My irony alert just went off.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

lowing wrote:

Don't look now Dilbert, but you are one of the one of which I speak.
Irony is lost on you I guess.
if they are so unfounded, youy should be able to do more than merely dismiss them, or deny them, while throwing personal attacks. You might wanna try a counter argument
Can't remember any personal attacks on you TBH.
Many people have tried counter-arguments, you just dismiss information which doesn't fit your preconceived ideas - the OT and NT are sold bound together for example.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Don't look now Dilbert, but you are one of the one of which I speak.
Irony is lost on you I guess.
if they are so unfounded, you should be able to do more than merely dismiss them, or deny them, while throwing personal attacks. You might wanna try a counter argument
Can't remember any personal attacks on you TBH.
Many people have tried counter-arguments, you just dismiss information which doesn't fit your preconceived ideas - the OT and NT are sold bound together for example.
I respond to counter arguments, I am not convinced, just like they are not convinced. So who is at fault, or is it you disagree with me so I should change?

Dilbert, your trolling is well documented, you bring little discussion to a thread and more of the type of posting that you are doing in this one.

If the OT and the NT were bound together, there would be no separation of them in the bible and would have no distinct titles. They are separate.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX
The OT and NT are physically bound together into the same book.

lowing wrote:

They are separate.
See, this is what I mean....

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-01-20 04:06:16)

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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Dilbert_X wrote:

The OT and NT are physically bound together into the same book.

lowing wrote:

They are separate.
See, this is what I mean....
I can not be bothered to hunt down your posts Dilbert, but if you think you have never trolled, or threw out name calling then so be it, I must be wrong.

yup they are physically printed in the same book BY the publisher, so what., they are as two distinct messages from 2 distinct eras. One is for Judaism and the other is for Christianity. Or is this where you tell me you can have Christianity BEFORE you have Christ?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX
Not getting into this argument in this thread
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Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7096|Nårvei

Not radically changed my view, but on some issues I have adjusted my opinions ...

Since I first arrived in DST I have had many a good encounter with people that have similar views as myself and the total opposite ... I have learned to a greater degree what have formed the opinion of people I disagree with and why the have their opinions ... I can often understand why those opinions was formed and have caught myself thinking that under the same circumstances I could prolly have had the same opinions ...

What we lack in DST is the understanding of the opposition in most cases imho ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7061|Moscow, Russia

FEOS wrote:

Irony.

Pot/kettle.
glad to meetcha too, mr. pot.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6576|Éire
My views on the degree to which climate change is man-made or not have been tempered and re-assessed as a result of some threads on this forum. I still believe we should be kinder to the environment and cut down on emissions though, regardless of that particular debate.
eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5545|foggy bottom

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

ANYONE that comes into this forum constantly ranting, raving, throwing fits, personally attacking, demanding you concede a point, etc..is a real life idiot.
Oh thats funny
I have got to be one of the most hated people in this forum and why?
No-one hates YOU, but your arguments are pretty dumb and not based on anything coherent.
Don't look now Dilbert, but you are one of the one of which I speak.

Can't help how you feel about my arguments, and I would be lying if I said I cared. However, if they are so unfounded, youy should be able to do more than merely dismiss them, or deny them, while throwing personal attacks. You might wanna try a counter argument
lowing you throw personal attacks all the time.  Someone doesnt agree with you, you are so fucking QUICK to throw a label out.  When your ad hominem argument fails, you are the first at personal attacks.
Tu Stultus Es
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

ANYONE that comes into this forum constantly ranting, raving, throwing fits, personally attacking, demanding you concede a point, etc..is a real life idiot.
Oh thats funny

No-one hates YOU, but your arguments are pretty dumb and not based on anything coherent.
Don't look now Dilbert, but you are one of the one of which I speak.

Can't help how you feel about my arguments, and I would be lying if I said I cared. However, if they are so unfounded, youy should be able to do more than merely dismiss them, or deny them, while throwing personal attacks. You might wanna try a counter argument
lowing you throw personal attacks all the time.  Someone doesnt agree with you, you are so fucking QUICK to throw a label out.  When your ad hominem argument fails, you are the first at personal attacks.
A label is not a personal attack. I will also disagree with you on being the first to sling mud. It doesn't happen. ( often if at all)

However I do see your point, if I were called a liberal, I would be offended as well.
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5883|Vacationland
My opinions on various users have changed...
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6673
I've definitely changed my mind, especially considered to 2005 or 7, don't remember when the game came out. Anyways, for the first couple years, this place definitely was just a shit slinging contest, but now it's matured, people present information, clear concise statements, and there is actual debate. I have learned stuff here, seen information I wouldn't have seen otherwise, and heard stories and experiences I wouldn't of heard anywhere else.

I'm kind of disappointed Galt gave up(I don't believe the original did, but I'm only 63% through the book). When I come here, and rarely post, its not to change peoples opinions, its generally just to speak mine to a audience that isn't retarded.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6887|132 and Bush

I never did like Day Light Saving. It has done very little to change my mind.
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6697|'Murka

Shahter wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Irony.

Pot/kettle.
glad to meetcha too, mr. pot.
I'm not the one who made the claim, so your accusation is lost.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

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