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2010-01-13 02:56:49
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6942|USA

-Sh1fty- wrote:

This is basically the opposite to this thread.

So here you state which invention has caused harm or has degraded society/humanity.

I would say, alcohol. Although it's used for medicinal purposes as well, this substance kills thousands. Sometimes indirectly (through accidents such as car crashes).
I dunno is liberalism/socialism an invention?

Last edited by lowing (2010-01-13 02:57:31)

2010-01-13 03:01:32
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

The Cigarette and Junk food.
these are actually good choices.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-01-13 03:24:54
Catbox
forgiveness
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lowing wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

This is basically the opposite to this thread.

So here you state which invention has caused harm or has degraded society/humanity.

I would say, alcohol. Although it's used for medicinal purposes as well, this substance kills thousands. Sometimes indirectly (through accidents such as car crashes).
I dunno is liberalism/socialism an invention?
liberalism is a disease... not an invention... lol
Love is the answer
2010-01-13 03:30:37
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6942|USA

Catbox wrote:

lowing wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

This is basically the opposite to this thread.

So here you state which invention has caused harm or has degraded society/humanity.

I would say, alcohol. Although it's used for medicinal purposes as well, this substance kills thousands. Sometimes indirectly (through accidents such as car crashes).
I dunno is liberalism/socialism an invention?
liberalism is a disease... not an invention... lol
this is true. good point.
2010-01-13 03:44:54
DonFck
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lowing wrote:

Catbox wrote:

lowing wrote:


I dunno is liberalism/socialism an invention?
liberalism is a disease... not an invention... lol
this is true. good point.
And capitalism is based on the same thing migrating swarms of locusts do.

But this is about inventions. So get back on topic.
I need around tree fiddy.
2010-01-13 03:47:25
lowing
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DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:

Catbox wrote:


liberalism is a disease... not an invention... lol
this is true. good point.
And capitalism is based on the same thing migrating swarms of locusts do.

But this is about inventions. So get back on topic.
yes, productive locusts, not the kind of liberal locust that swarm in consume everything from every effort and produce nothing.

but yeah, back on topic.
2010-01-13 03:48:29
DonFck
Hibernator
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lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:

this is true. good point.
And capitalism is based on the same thing migrating swarms of locusts do.

But this is about inventions. So get back on topic.
yes, productive locusts, not the kind of liberal locust that swarm in consume everything from every effort and produce nothing.

but yeah, back on topic.
You might as well say "Yes, but the good kind of AIDS".

No, exactly the kind of locust that consumes everything then moves on to the next area of exploitation.

But yeah, back on topic. I'm getting the last word. Na na na naana.
I need around tree fiddy.
2010-01-13 04:33:09
Phrozenbot
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CameronPoe wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

ahahahaha

Did you just say that for shits and giggles or do you believe it? Because the last time I was in the room when this was explained was when the dumbest girl in school had it explained to her for twenty minutes in middle school.
Fractional reserve banking worked out just fine for Iceland didn't it....... lol

Paper money facilitates credit bubbles. I suppose more specifically modern banking and associated practices do. I'm no economics major though.
I have to go with CPoe here. I'm completely in favor of a gold standard.

It's theoretically possible that floating exchange rates, fiat currencies, could result in more stability and fluidity, but there is no natural discipline on how much money you can print. Most of the inflation is from fractional reserve lending however. The inflation causes bubbles, people to spend and invest (recklessly) rather than save in fear their savings will be eroded away at inflation, and then there is always the chance of destroying the currency and completely stifle economic activity.
2010-01-13 05:56:16
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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Ioan92 wrote:

pirana6 wrote:

And to those of you saying religion? Do you honestly think we'd be where we are today without the rules and morals they started for us? (chill you non-religious martyrs, I'm atheist too, I just understand we wouldn't be where we are today without them, regardless if it seems irrational today).
Civilization would have been at least twice more advanced than it is today and there would of been much less wars.
Prove it.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-01-13 05:58:36
ruisleipa
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Braddock wrote:

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2010-01-13 12:49:44
thatguythereyame
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2010-01-13 12:51:48
El Beardo
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Flecco wrote:

Religion.
Important
2010-01-13 15:09:50
pirana6
Go Cougs!
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Flecco wrote:

pirana6 wrote:

And to those of you saying religion? Do you honestly think we'd be where we are today without the rules and morals they started for us? (chill you non-religious martyrs, I'm atheist too, I just understand we wouldn't be where we are today without them, regardless if it seems irrational today).
The bad outweighs the good. Society free of religious constraints makes much more sense.
I agree with you 100% but now it does. Back when people didn't know left from right they needed guidance, something to propel their lives.

Building structures for gods -> engineering and architecture.
Thinking "god" was above us in heaven -> looking towards sky -> astronomy
Wars over religion "right" and "wrong" -> advancements in almost everything war related that evolves into non-war related tech (as discussed a few posts above).

Religion was necessary but now it's served its purpose and has become obsolete.
2010-01-13 15:25:14
Backupwayback
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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pirana6 wrote:

Flecco wrote:

pirana6 wrote:

And to those of you saying religion? Do you honestly think we'd be where we are today without the rules and morals they started for us? (chill you non-religious martyrs, I'm atheist too, I just understand we wouldn't be where we are today without them, regardless if it seems irrational today).
The bad outweighs the good. Society free of religious constraints makes much more sense.
I agree with you 100% but now it does. Back when people didn't know left from right they needed guidance, something to propel their lives.

Building structures for gods -> engineering and architecture.
Thinking "god" was above us in heaven -> looking towards sky -> astronomy
Wars over religion "right" and "wrong" -> advancements in almost everything war related that evolves into non-war related tech (as discussed a few posts above).

Religion was necessary but now it's served its purpose and has become obsolete.
naw without religion we would have been better off today sorry.

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2010-01-13 16:05:16
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6696|North Carolina

pirana6 wrote:

Flecco wrote:

pirana6 wrote:

And to those of you saying religion? Do you honestly think we'd be where we are today without the rules and morals they started for us? (chill you non-religious martyrs, I'm atheist too, I just understand we wouldn't be where we are today without them, regardless if it seems irrational today).
The bad outweighs the good. Society free of religious constraints makes much more sense.
I agree with you 100% but now it does. Back when people didn't know left from right they needed guidance, something to propel their lives.

Building structures for gods -> engineering and architecture.
Thinking "god" was above us in heaven -> looking towards sky -> astronomy
Wars over religion "right" and "wrong" -> advancements in almost everything war related that evolves into non-war related tech (as discussed a few posts above).

Religion was necessary but now it's served its purpose and has become obsolete.
Even as an atheist, I don't believe religion is obsolete.

Now, there are certainly versions of religion that should be obsolete.  Certain orthodox interpretations of religion only have negative effects on society and should be watched because of their proximity to things like terrorism.   Radical Islam is an obvious example, but there are Radical Christians that should be monitored as well.
2010-01-13 16:41:30
Braddock
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Religion is sadly not obsolete, and will not be obsolete for a while to come. The reason for this is that there is still a great proportion of the world's population who are ignorant, superstitious, small-minded, and/or psychologically weak. Religion panders to these characteristics and makes the world a much easier place to exist in for anyone who exhibits these traits. Religion is basically the social contract wrapped up in a fairy tale and it has been incredibly effective at keeping society in line while we progress as a species. What we have now in modern times is a difficult half-and-half situation whereby many of us have outgrown the need for fairy tales while a huge number remain reluctant to give up the security of irrational and archaic belief systems.

Religion, at this stage, has the kudos of being very old, as though that adds some sort of weight to it's veracity. While many people nowadays wouldn't believe in magic they might often still believe in religion, even though such a way of thinking is completely inconsistent. As Jimmy Carr says, "saying I don't believe in magic but I believe in God is a bit like saying I don't fuck dogs... except alsatians'.
2010-01-13 21:27:02
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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I think it's funny the number of people that have put down religion as the worst invention. They are totally ignoring the good that religion has done in the world, as well as ignoring the fact that it was normally not religion itself that did the bad things, but man doing bad things in the name of religion (normally in direct contrast to that religion's actual teachings)--there is a difference. But more to the point, completely ignoring all the good work that is done by religious organizations every single day across the world with zero recognition by anyone--because that is what they do.

But it's the worst thing ever.

Honestly. There are things so much worse than that. Things that serve no positive purpose whatsoever. But instead you all choose something that, while it certainly has negative aspects, has as much if not more positive aspects over all those things that have zero positive purposes simply because of...why?

It's truly baffling. One could opine that it's militant atheism looking for an outlet.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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2010-01-13 21:37:04
seymorebutts443
Ready for combat
+211|6886|Belchertown Massachusetts, USA

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

america
asia should be wiped out too.
2010-01-13 21:43:12
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6696|North Carolina

FEOS wrote:

I think it's funny the number of people that have put down religion as the worst invention. They are totally ignoring the good that religion has done in the world, as well as ignoring the fact that it was normally not religion itself that did the bad things, but man doing bad things in the name of religion (normally in direct contrast to that religion's actual teachings)--there is a difference. But more to the point, completely ignoring all the good work that is done by religious organizations every single day across the world with zero recognition by anyone--because that is what they do.

But it's the worst thing ever.

Honestly. There are things so much worse than that. Things that serve no positive purpose whatsoever. But instead you all choose something that, while it certainly has negative aspects, has as much if not more positive aspects over all those things that have zero positive purposes simply because of...why?

It's truly baffling. One could opine that it's militant atheism looking for an outlet.
Good points...  Another thing commonly forgotten about religion is that the clergy were often charged with being the scholars of society.  A lot of research was done by churches in the West.  Since the earliest education centers were usually religious, it's doubtful we would be as far along in science and technology had it not been for religion.

The catch is that somehow religion has now become an obstacle to science and research in many cases.

 

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