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2010-01-02 04:20:44
Dilbert_X
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Phrozenbot wrote:

Spark wrote:

There is a difference between questioning the government - i.e. questioning the law itself - and this, which is saying that the law shouldn't be enforced. That's just stupid.
I understand the difference. The point of this thread is to point out how the government is taxing us so they can put away 'criminals' like these away. No matter how much money we throw at the war on drugs, it doesn't seem to be working. My impression was Godfather had an issue with the law, not simply about enforcing it. If you don't feel it shouldn't be enforced, chances are you probably don't wish the law existed. He already clarified that.

I bet some of you would have issues being punished for pirating photoshop or something stupid like that.
Doesn't seem to make any difference how much money we spend on speeding, identity theft or tax-dodging.
Should we legalise them just because we're not having any impact or it costs money?

Speeding 5MPH over the limit is petty, but we all know the limit and if we cross it we get done, hard luck.

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2010-01-02 04:28:35
Phrozenbot
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Jenspm wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

So what's so wrong with questioning the government? If no one questioned the status quo at all, who would stand up to the government when it infringes on our liberties? Because apparently we are just supposed to sit down and shut up.
HOWEVER - you cannot protest against someone getting punished for breaking the law, a law that was put forward in a democratic country and has lasted over the course of more than one election term. I don't know how it works over there, but I assume laws are passed by some sort of parliament, whether it's the senate or state-specific. Vote people that support legalisation into the parliament, if that's what you want.
Apparently you don't know much about prohibition here in the states either. Just because the government outlaws something or makes something illegal, doesn't make it right. Look if these people wanted my sympathy for breaking the law, I don't feel bad about the fact they knowingly broke the law in that sense. Everyone knows it is illegal here in the states except medical marijuana in CA. What I do feel sorry for is making these two to be made out as criminals because of petty drug laws, when what they are really doing is harmless.

You can protest by breaking the law. People get imprisoned for advocating human rights in China. Come on, seriously.
2010-01-02 04:45:38
Phrozenbot
Member
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

Spark wrote:

There is a difference between questioning the government - i.e. questioning the law itself - and this, which is saying that the law shouldn't be enforced. That's just stupid.
I understand the difference. The point of this thread is to point out how the government is taxing us so they can put away 'criminals' like these away. No matter how much money we throw at the war on drugs, it doesn't seem to be working. My impression was Godfather had an issue with the law, not simply about enforcing it. If you don't feel it shouldn't be enforced, chances are you probably don't wish the law existed. He already clarified that.

I bet some of you would have issues being punished for pirating photoshop or something stupid like that.
Doesn't seem to make any difference how much money we spend on speeding, identity theft or tax-dodging.
Should we legalise them just because we're not having any impact or it costs money?

Speeding 5MPH over the limit is petty, but we all know the limit and if we cross it we get done, hard luck.
I'd actually argue for legalizing marijuana and other drugs not because the war on drugs has proven to be highly costly and ineffective, but mainly because I'm arguing that it is your right to decide what you do or don't consume, not what the government says. It's a liberty issue, however the other points contribute to my feelings.

Legalize identity theft? It's not your liberty to steal someone elses identity. What kind of argument is that? Infringing on someone else's liberty is a crime and should go punished.

Phrozenbot wrote:

Look if these people wanted my sympathy for breaking the law, I don't feel bad about the fact they knowingly broke the law in that sense. Everyone knows it is illegal here in the states except medical marijuana in CA. What I do feel sorry for is making these two to be made out as criminals because of petty drug laws, when what they are really doing is harmless.
Back to my original point.
2010-01-02 07:23:08
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6961|Canberra, AUS

CapnNismo wrote:

Roger, work on your English.
He was perfectly understandable to me. Moreso than some native English speakers I've heard/seen here and elsewhere.

I bet some of you would have issues being punished for pirating photoshop or something stupid like that.
Well, yes, probably, but that wouldn't stop said people being blindingly hypocritical.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-01-02 09:50:55
Roger Lesboules
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CapnNismo wrote:

Roger, work on your English.
Considering i wrote this at 6 something in the morning, i think its pretty well written and all. And if you understood, it was good enough.

 

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