lowing
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Uzique wrote:

about as much truth as there is in the teachings of muhammad.

delusional self-important old fucker. come on lowing, you're semi-intelligent, learn to think without these internet pundits... blogspot and youtube, puhleeze.
Ahh and trust you instead, because you, after all, are the pulse of Life in London. Got it.

the teachings of Muhammad are written. Are you saying they are not truth, that he didn't write this, or speak of it, or act upon it?

Last edited by lowing (2009-12-23 07:02:13)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6757
ive already said my personal experience in london only serves to break down the sensationalist hype and fearmongering

i am by no means the multicultural paragon of london life, nor would i want to be. multiculturalism isnt my favourite thing in the world, but i just dont buy into this paranoiac anti-islam bullshit... because i have a brain, despite my personal beliefs on my country and its culture.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6979
Hold fast. All political business aside, if there should be an attack, remain head strong, Londoners.
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

ive already said my personal experience in london only serves to break down the sensationalist hype and fearmongering

i am by no means the multicultural paragon of london life, nor would i want to be. multiculturalism isnt my favourite thing in the world, but i just dont buy into this paranoiac anti-islam bullshit... because i have a brain, despite my personal beliefs on my country and its culture.
Terrific and I use current events to do the same. Only in denial can one come to a conclusion that there is no tension regarding Islam in London or any place else for that matter.
lowing
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Superior Mind wrote:

Hold fast. All political business aside, if there should be an attack, remain head strong, Londoners.
and seek deeper sand in which to bury your heads.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6979

lowing wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Hold fast. All political business aside, if there should be an attack, remain head strong, Londoners.
and seek deeper sand in which to bury your heads.
I reckon that would be a good shield against grenade blasts.

Whatever the reason for such an attack to happen, appeasement or whatever, when the shit hits the fan, none of that matters in the moment.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2009-12-23 07:13:19)

FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6787|so randum
idk how someone can support Israel having their own land, but not support a group fighting for a united Ireland.

also;

accurate souces are not newspapers. newspapers exist by making money, and they make money from sensation. this is not rocket science.

posting from Manchester calmly awaiting our new Islamic overlords sailing up the shipcanal.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6868|SE London

Superior Mind wrote:

Hold fast. All political business aside, if there should be an attack, remain head strong, Londoners.
There have been dozens and dozens of terror attacks on London while I have lived here.

It's not really that big a deal.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6979

Bertster7 wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Hold fast. All political business aside, if there should be an attack, remain head strong, Londoners.
There have been dozens and dozens of terror attacks on London while I have lived here.

It's not really that big a deal.
Wait for the big one. Or the small one that kills your girlfriend.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2009-12-23 12:57:35)

FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6787|so randum
i got caught up in a multiple bombscare last fortnight, guess i should stay away from those funny mooslims.

Oh wait, it was white irish protestants who wanted to blow me up, i guess thats cool because they're christian and white. but that guy at the corner shop who sells me cigs, fuck him and stick him on a list, he's a muslim. never mind that he owns his own business, gives to charity and is a respectable man in the community, stick him on the big brother list because he's a fucking muslim.

billy bob, get in the trailer and bring the rope.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6868|SE London

Superior Mind wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Hold fast. All political business aside, if there should be an attack, remain head strong, Londoners.
There have been dozens and dozens of terror attacks on London while I have lived here.

It's not really that big a deal.
Wait for the big one.
Terror attacks aren't big - with one notable exception.

You are silly and paranoid.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6979

Bertster7 wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

There have been dozens and dozens of terror attacks on London while I have lived here.

It's not really that big a deal.
Wait for the big one.
Terror attacks aren't big - with one notable exception.

You are silly and paranoid.
See my edit.

I wasn't being paranoid. I was just wishing you all safety should something happen.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2009-12-23 13:07:16)

lowing
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FatherTed wrote:

idk how someone can support Israel having their own land, but not support a group fighting for a united Ireland.

also;

accurate souces are not newspapers. newspapers exist by making money, and they make money from sensation. this is not rocket science.

posting from Manchester calmly awaiting our new Islamic overlords sailing up the shipcanal.
Israel or Ireland, when it comes down to it I don't give shit about either one. I am basing my opinion on how I view the agenda the situations.

If left alone Israel would stay in peace and seek peaceful commerce with their nieghbors. If Israel were destroyed Islamic and Arab nations would simply turn their agression elsewhere.

There can be peace with Israel, there can never be lasting peace with Islam.
lowing
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FatherTed wrote:

i got caught up in a multiple bombscare last fortnight, guess i should stay away from those funny mooslims.

Oh wait, it was white irish protestants who wanted to blow me up, i guess thats cool because they're christian and white. but that guy at the corner shop who sells me cigs, fuck him and stick him on a list, he's a muslim. never mind that he owns his own business, gives to charity and is a respectable man in the community, stick him on the big brother list because he's a fucking muslim.

billy bob, get in the trailer and bring the rope.
You keep speaking of Muslims, I speak of Islam

and there really isn't denying what this religion is about.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6757
how fucked can your narrowminded logic be when you need to force an arbitrary 'distinction' between a religion and its followers? islam and muslims are inherently one and the same fucking thing. it's like bitching about christians and christianity being two different topics just because the various denominations follow the scripture or interpret the holy words in different ways.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7062|Moscow, Russia

Uzique wrote:

how fucked can your narrowminded logic be when you need to force an arbitrary 'distinction' between a religion and its followers? islam and muslims are inherently one and the same fucking thing. it's like bitching about christians and christianity being two different topics just because the various denominations follow the scripture or interpret the holy words in different ways.
that's lowing and his notorious "opinion" for you. don't waste your breath, the guy's as dence as a turd, no amount of logic and reasoning will convince him.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6961|Canberra, AUS

Uzique wrote:

how fucked can your narrowminded logic be when you need to force an arbitrary 'distinction' between a religion and its followers? islam and muslims are inherently one and the same fucking thing. it's like bitching about christians and christianity being two different topics just because the various denominations follow the scripture or interpret the holy words in different ways.
welcome to islam@dst.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
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+1,662|6938|USA

Uzique wrote:

how fucked can your narrowminded logic be when you need to force an arbitrary 'distinction' between a religion and its followers? islam and muslims are inherently one and the same fucking thing. it's like bitching about christians and christianity being two different topics just because the various denominations follow the scripture or interpret the holy words in different ways.
there is a distinct difference between a religion and its followers.

A follower is an individual who may or may not ACT upon the teachings of their religion.

A religion is an ideology or belief system as a whole. it is a generality while the follower is a specific. this is why I judge a religion on its teachings and individuals of that religion on their actions.


I maintain if you do not act upon the teachings of your religion then you are not following that religion. I can not help it if a Muslim who does not follow the teachings of Islam and Muhammad still insists on calling themselves Muslim. Nor can I help that a person who blows up a clinic insists they are Christian when clearly they are not following the teachings of that religion.
lowing
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Shahter wrote:

Uzique wrote:

how fucked can your narrowminded logic be when you need to force an arbitrary 'distinction' between a religion and its followers? islam and muslims are inherently one and the same fucking thing. it's like bitching about christians and christianity being two different topics just because the various denominations follow the scripture or interpret the holy words in different ways.
that's lowing and his notorious "opinion" for you. don't waste your breath, the guy's as dence as a turd, no amount of logic and reasoning will convince him.
the second a liberal such as ^^^^^^^^^ presents some true logic and reasoning, the kind that can not be shot full of holes, I might be convinced, until then, yer right, don't bother holding your breathe, nor will I. also, see if it can be done without insult for once. Now there is a true challenge for any liberal.

Last edited by lowing (2009-12-24 06:18:53)

lowing
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Spark wrote:

Uzique wrote:

how fucked can your narrowminded logic be when you need to force an arbitrary 'distinction' between a religion and its followers? islam and muslims are inherently one and the same fucking thing. it's like bitching about christians and christianity being two different topics just because the various denominations follow the scripture or interpret the holy words in different ways.
welcome to islam@dst.
goes for you to Spark, especially you in fact.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6757
hahaha who's supposed to be a liberal? you accuse everyone of that

im old-money old-value english conservative. classical political liberalism, as in individualism... yes. american 'liberalism', hell fucking no.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6938|USA

Uzique wrote:

hahaha who's supposed to be a liberal? you accuse everyone of that

im old-money old-value english conservative. classical political liberalism, as in individualism... yes. american 'liberalism', hell fucking no.
If that were true, you would not be pro-Islam, a religion that is clearly against everything conservatives believe.

You would also be able to form a consistant argument, rather than try and argue you are right because I am stupid.

however, I have not seen such a post from you as of yet
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6961|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

Uzique wrote:

how fucked can your narrowminded logic be when you need to force an arbitrary 'distinction' between a religion and its followers? islam and muslims are inherently one and the same fucking thing. it's like bitching about christians and christianity being two different topics just because the various denominations follow the scripture or interpret the holy words in different ways.
welcome to islam@dst.
goes for you to Spark, especially you in fact.
yes look at all those flames, personal attacks and insults i've made in this thread.

you know, for someone who rails against a flappy-wrist society you seem to complain a lot.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
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+1,662|6938|USA

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:


welcome to islam@dst.
goes for you to Spark, especially you in fact.
yes look at all those flames, personal attacks and insults i've made in this thread.

you know, for someone who rails against a flappy-wrist society you seem to complain a lot.
flappy wrist society?

Not speaking of this thread alone Spark.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6961|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:


goes for you to Spark, especially you in fact.
yes look at all those flames, personal attacks and insults i've made in this thread.

you know, for someone who rails against a flappy-wrist society you seem to complain a lot.
flappy wrist society?

Not speaking of this thread alone Spark.
you know what i mean. a weak, unprincipled and overly "bendable" society.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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