BF2S Forums Open Carry

If you spend much time in gun culture you'll find that this really isn't the mentality.

I've spent 20 years in 'gun culture', in my experience those people who most want to carry a loaded gun are those least suited to do so. Its the people outside the culture who want to get their hands on a gun and strut around looking hard who are generally the problem.

Like I said, if the average responsible person wants a CCW and to go through the appropriate background checks, training etc to defend themselves and their family - where its legal - then fine.

If someone wants to 'open carry' just because they can - without the training or checks -  to prove a point to big govt with an AR15 over their shoulder at a political rally, or so they can get involved in a convenience store shootout then they're fruitcakes IMO.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-11-24 01:32:35)

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Hakei wrote:

And the kids/parents who see the guns and are ignorant to the law? Tough shit? Great logic, you're following the law but at the same time hurting those around you.

By your logic -their ignorance of the law should supersede another's rights.  Yea... Great logic there.

So it's not a person's right to feel safe? What the fuck does a 6 year old kid think when he sees one of his friend's daddy carry a weapon? It's not the point of rights either, it's simple logic to avoid causing hurt unnecessarily to others.

Those who open carry should stop hiding behind the law as a reason to look big a macho with a gun.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

krazed wrote:

aw, were their poor little feelings hurt? awww <3


if people weren't gullible petrified sheep that jumped at their own shadow, they wouldn't be afraid of open carry to begin with

God forbid someone be 'scared' at some point in their life. Expressing a human emotion in response to an object that is purely designed to kill being paraded in your proximity? HOW DARE YOU.

krazed wrote:

Hakei wrote:

What the fuck does a 6 year old kid think when he sees one of his friend's daddy carry a weapon? It's not the point of rights either, it's simple logic to avoid causing hurt unnecessarily to others.

Those who open carry should stop hiding behind the law as a reason to look big a macho with a gun.

the 6 year old would probably think it was neat, unless the kids parents taught him that guns are evil maniacal baby killing murder machines, that will kill him and eat his soul if he comes within 10 feet of it

The later part of your post adds nothing to what's being said and the former part is a problem in itself. It sends a message that having dangerous weapons on you is not a big deal. It is.

krazed wrote:

so.... people who open carry shouldn't because you don't like it? maybe they just feel like it?

Hakei wrote:

So it's not a person's right to feel safe?

what if carrying makes them feel safe?     they aren't allowed because some people get butthurt about them having it?

It's not a case of what's allowed and what isn't. Common sense should prevail and idiots who open carry should see there are more negatives than positives.

krazed wrote:

Hakei wrote:

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong/evil/bad

grow up

That doesn't respond to or discredit what I said in any way, shape or form. The statement by itself without the quotes would be fine but nothing you said applies to the quote.

And the two points you made are non sequitur anyway. My opinion of it being "wrong/evil/bad" is what makes it "wrong/evil/bad". Don't even bother arguing that point either, subjective debates are so 2008.

Last edited by Hakei (2009-11-30 02:11:23)

Aww. Sun hurts your head does it? Aww <3

Harden the fuck up.

Hakei wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

So it's not a person's right to feel safe? What the fuck does a 6 year old kid think when he sees one of his friend's daddy carry a weapon? It's not the point of rights either, it's simple logic to avoid causing hurt unnecessarily to others.

Those who open carry should stop hiding behind the law as a reason to look big a macho with a gun.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Show where the Constitution guarantees the "feel safe" right.  Oh wait... It's the Second Amendment.  I really don't give a flying fuck what any six year old other than my son thinks -and my son respects firearms really doesn't give it a second notice. 

Those who have a problem with open carry need to stop hiding behind their unnecessary, illogical fears and respect the laws of the land and rights of the individual.  A law abiding citizen carrying a gun is nothing to wet your pants over.

Police Officers cause distress to many.  To them, cops appear intimidating and are also armed.  Should they not be allowed to wander the streets at night?

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Hakei wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

So it's not a person's right to feel safe? What the fuck does a 6 year old kid think when he sees one of his friend's daddy carry a weapon? It's not the point of rights either, it's simple logic to avoid causing hurt unnecessarily to others.

Those who open carry should stop hiding behind the law as a reason to look big a macho with a gun.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Show where the Constitution guarantees the "feel safe" right.  Oh wait... It's the Second Amendment.  I really don't give a flying fuck what any six year old other than my son thinks -and my son respects firearms really doesn't give it a second notice. 

Those who have a problem with open carry need to stop hiding behind their unnecessary, illogical fears and respect the laws of the land and rights of the individual.  A law abiding citizen carrying a gun is nothing to wet your pants over.

Police Officers cause distress to many.  To them, cops appear intimidating and are also armed.  Should they not be allowed to wander the streets at night?

How does a random passer by distinguish a "a abiding citizen carrying a gun" from a criminal?

O wait you can't. Fail argument is fail.

Also loz at "a gun isnt a dangerous weapon". Wrong, that is exactly what it is.

Definitions of gun on the Web:

    * a weapon that discharges a missile at high velocity (especially from a metal tube or barrel)

Last edited by Vilham (2009-11-30 09:36:45)

DBBrinson1 wrote:

*edit: lolz at me owning "deadly weapons" and you can't

QFE

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Hakei wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

So it's not a person's right to feel safe? What the fuck does a 6 year old kid think when he sees one of his friend's daddy carry a weapon? It's not the point of rights either, it's simple logic to avoid causing hurt unnecessarily to others.

Those who open carry should stop hiding behind the law as a reason to look big a macho with a gun.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Show where the Constitution guarantees the "feel safe" right.  Oh wait... It's the Second Amendment.  I really don't give a flying fuck what any six year old other than my son thinks -and my son respects firearms really doesn't give it a second notice. 

Those who have a problem with open carry need to stop hiding behind their unnecessary, illogical fears and respect the laws of the land and rights of the individual.  A law abiding citizen carrying a gun is nothing to wet your pants over.

Police Officers cause distress to many.  To them, cops appear intimidating and are also armed.  Should they not be allowed to wander the streets at night?

Once again, this isn't to do with what the law regards as right/wrong, it's what you as a human should understand is right/wrong. So where do we draw the line? Am I not supposed to get scared if 10 bandanna wearing black men board the train with pieces? They're just law abiding citizens too? Yeah?

Being scared of a gun is not an illogical fear. The weapon is DESIGNED to kill, that is the purpose of it. Police officers? zZz, what a terrible chestnut to crack. From a VERY young age kids are taught that these people dedicate their lives to protecting others. Police officers are usually always in uniform and easily noticeable from any citizen. Ergo, children understand that these people are there to protect them.

Last edited by Hakei (2009-11-30 18:04:04)

Hakei wrote:

Once again, this isn't to do with what the law regards as right/wrong, it's what you as a human should understand is right/wrong. So where do we draw the line? Am I not supposed to get scared if 10 bandanna wearing black men board the train with pieces? They're just law abiding citizens too? Yeah?

Being scared of a gun is not an illogical fear. The weapon is DESIGNED to kill, that is the purpose of it. Police officers? zZz, what a terrible chestnut to crack. From a VERY young age kids are taught that these people dedicate their lives to protecting others. Police officers are usually always in uniform and easily noticeable from any citizen. Ergo, children understand that these people are there to protect them.

Excellent points.  You prove my arguments perfectly.  EDUCATION of the laws go a long way .  gg.

Hakei wrote:

Once again, this isn't to do with what the law regards as right/wrong, it's what you as a human should understand is right/wrong. So where do we draw the line? Am I not supposed to get scared if 10 bandanna wearing black men board the train with pieces? They're just law abiding citizens too? Yeah?

would you be less scared if you couldn't see their guns? do you carry a bucket of sand around with you so you can shove your head in it on the go?


but see here's the thing about criminals......


they break the law. it's kind of their job.

i don't support unlicensed open/concealed carry, simply based on how many ignorant assholes are out there who would do it for the wrong reasons

Hakei wrote:

Being scared of a gun is not an illogical fear. The weapon is DESIGNED to kill, that is the purpose of it. Police officers? zZz, what a terrible chestnut to crack. From a VERY young age kids are taught that these people dedicate their lives to protecting others. Police officers are usually always in uniform and easily noticeable from any citizen. Ergo, children understand that these people are there to protect them.

most police officers(afaik) carry concealed while not in uniform


a lot of kids are also taught that anyone else who has guns (for any reason) is a knuckle dragging, sister fucking, redneck

cue the 50s cartoon reference


EEEEEEEEEEK A GUN *jumps on chair holding dress around knees*

Vilham wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

How does a random passer by distinguish a "a abiding citizen carrying a gun" from a criminal?

O wait you can't. Fail argument is fail.

Also loz at "a gun isnt a dangerous weapon". Wrong, that is exactly what it is.

Definitions of gun on the Web:

    * a weapon that discharges a missile at high velocity (especially from a metal tube or barrel)

Yes, yer' argument is mass fail.  What business is it of the "random passer?" 

Okay then, where in that definition of a gun is "DANGEROUS"?

*edit: lolz at me owning "deadly weapons" and you can't

The simple FACT is that as a gun owner you are a minority and have no right to impose fear on the public. Your right to carry a gun in full view  means people have no way of knowing if that is legal or not and therefore no idea if they need to do something to protect themselves from you. Fear breeds fear.

Weapons by definition are dangerous, that's the whole point in them.... /facepalm

I can own a "deadly weapon"... listen to your self, your ignorance is astounding. Do some research, seriously. Added to the fact that your bragging of rights to own a deadly weapon. Red neck much?

" people have no means of knowing..."


You want the second amendment curtailed because people are stupid.

You can stick it up your...

It merely spreads panic and fear among idiots, who deserve to be in fear for their lives.