BF2S Forums for you catholics,jews w/e if u believe in god read this

Answeller wrote:

While even a stupid pencil couldnt made itself, im not gonna believe that the whole universe poped up from nothing and become something complex we cant even figure it out yet, so im gonna keep believing something greater than myself.

muscleback wrote:

Spark wrote:

muscleback wrote:

Wow what a topic. Stuff like this always get pretty deap. Science has never proven anything. They only have "THEORYS". Thats because there is too many holes in what the come up with.

Y-D, to answer your question. After adam and eve sinned, that gave birth to sin on earth. Satin a fallen angle now the ability to create sin and havoc. God who gave his life for these sins gave us free will. We now have the choice to fallow him and be forgive for the sins on earth.  9/11 and all the things that happen are from the sins on earth and satin having power to create sin.

Yet another who swallowed Christian doctrine while forgetting to use their brain.

What do you think Jesus' mission was?

'9/11 and all the things that happen are from the sins on earth and satin having power to create sin'

This is the exact simplistic attitude that leads to something like 9/11.

The belief that God/Satan creates all evil things. This encourages FUNDEMENTALISM.

'Wow what a topic. Stuff like this always get pretty deap. Science has never proven anything. They only have "THEORYS". Thats because there is too many holes in what the come up with. '

Obviously you've never heard of, let's see. Earthquakes. Meteorites. The Greenhouse effect.

Need I go on? I could fill a big book with this and still be writing.

I will not debate this with you. I just fill sorry for you. What you say sounds so ignorant and I am truely sorry that you feel that way.  This also is not an agrumaent against science. Science will only one day lead to God, for this earth is too complex for science. It was not 'till further studies in college that I relize that. I just pray that one day you will see the errors in your ways. God loves you

Last edited by JaMDuDe (2006-04-16 11:20:12)

Spark wrote:

KingLou wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

That while our bodies are flesh, we are beings, in a large part, also comprised of energy.  Energy cannot be destroyed, only change forms.  When we die, our energy simply changes form and moves on to another state of being.  In religious terms that may be called a soul, but I certainly don't believe in God, or heaven and hell.

Wow........where's the science to support THAT theory?  I will tell you what happens to the ENERGY that you are made up of when you die.  As your body decomposes, bacteria and other organisms consume your rotting flesh, providing nutrition (ie, energy) for themselves.  The engergy that you were once made of is returned to the earth, in a thousand an one different forms.  So, your state of being becomes a healthy colony of bacteria, fungi, plants, worms, etc.

I really get bugged when people start touting that science is constantly disproving the existance of God.  How?  Evolution?  I'm Catholic....I believe in God, and that he is responsible for creating life as we know it.........and I ALSO believe in evolution (I'm a biology major, and currently in med school).  Why do the two have to be polar opposites.  Because of the creation story in the Bible?  Here's a hint.......it's a STORY......told to people thousands of years ago, who would have NO IDEA whta the hell evolution was if you tried to explain it to them.  I don't consider the Bible to be a historical referance manual to be taken literally without question.  Some religious people do.....and I'll be honest, I think they may be misguided in that regard.  And then there's the scientists that think science disproves the existance of God.  On what basis exactly?  However.......these are the extremes..........there are the very religious (like myself) that believe that science and God are actually complimentary...........and there are many scientists (like myself) that feel like the more they learn of science, the more they are convinced of a higher power.  Study, for instance, in detail the process of human fertilization.  Every odd is AGAINST the sperm finding it's way to the egg.....and that's just the first part of the process.  If you really knew everything that had to happen JUST PERFECT in order for a woman to get pregnant, logic would tell you that it should be near impossible for it to happen.......almost like winning the lottery.  Yet, billions of people manage to get pregnant.....no such luck with the lotteyr.  Clearly we have no shortage of people making babies.

KiL

Most would argue that our sperm EVOLVED to beat off those odds. Naturally, those that did not could not reproduce nearly as much (a la natural selection)

On all other counts, ABSOLUTELY agreed.

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Answeller wrote:

While even a stupid pencil couldnt made itself, im not gonna believe that the whole universe poped up from nothing and become something complex we cant even figure it out yet, so im gonna keep believing something greater than myself.

then how did that being even started? u do know that christianity is formed from other religions right? they say god is a an old man w/ a white beard, so is zeus, and december25th is when jesus was born when in fact it was more like in march. Dec 25th is the day when the day is longer than the night for the first time in the year (northen hemisphere) so its from the sun god (egypt) and the halo disks on saint is the same symbol as the sun disk (eygpt). Science is not all theory, science = proof, science has prooven there is anti-matter and dark energy, so would god create 2 types of matter for the sake of it? and theres no anti-matter found in the universe... yet

JaMDuDe wrote:

God is real. I think the debate is more if we evolved and if the bible is litterally true or just a bunch of stories. There arent any other religions that have a book like the bible. It was written in different times in different places and it all came together and made sense. No religions have people like Jesus who did lots of miracles, or prophets who told what Jesus would do hundreds of years before he came. And He came back after death and showed Himself to hundreds of people.

Spark wrote:

JaMDuDe wrote:

God is real. I think the debate is more if we evolved and if the bible is litterally true or just a bunch of stories. There arent any other religions that have a book like the bible. It was written in different times in different places and it all came together and made sense. No religions have people like Jesus who did lots of miracles, or prophets who told what Jesus would do hundreds of years before he came. And He came back after death and showed Himself to hundreds of people.

Well what is the Koran then?

Not to argue with the rest of your post though.

Last edited by Y-D-Donut? (2006-04-16 20:12:09)

Spark wrote:

Y-D-Donut? wrote:

Spark wrote:

Well what is the Koran then?

Not to argue with the rest of your post though.

Exactly Spark, what he fuck then is the Korahn? Dude, the muslim religion, in many ways, its a lot like cristhianity, just that crithians dont do Jihad (kill for your religion, Holy War, whatever). They had a prophet and a dude like jesus, called Mahomah. He did "miracles"too and other things. BTW, the Korahn is the "Bible" of muslims, its composed by many books, like the bible, many of those were before and after Mahomah, like the bible with Jesus, among other things.

So dude, no disrespect, but before talking about things you don't know, like other religions besides urs, take some education first. Wikipedia can help alot.

*cough*CRUSADES*cough*

Hmmm...

You must have misunderstood me. He said that no other religion has a bible that is made of texts written at different times.

The Koran is.

So.... how does this make me 'uneducated'?

Last edited by Y-D-Donut? (2006-04-16 20:11:42)

JaMDuDe wrote:

The bible was written by different people in different places at different times. The Quran was written by one man.

Milton Waddams wrote:

So I was listening to the radio and they said they have proven that going to church on a regular basis makes you richer (believe it or not!).

The reason: Going to church gives you more contacts and therefore increases the opportunities you have to make money.

PS: Why are you talking about religion on a violent video game website?

Y-D-Donut? wrote:

Milton Waddams wrote:

So I was listening to the radio and they said they have proven that going to church on a regular basis makes you richer (believe it or not!).

The reason: Going to church gives you more contacts and therefore increases the opportunities you have to make money.

PS: Why are you talking about religion on a violent video game website?

hahahhahaha... good comment, i think likewise, religion and violent VG dont mix