lowing wrote:
Really? The Koran seems to differ http://nowscape.com/islam/koran_sura.htm
Because none of their causes are faith based. Islamic terrorism is a direct result of Islam and its teachings.
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That is very prejudice. It sickens me to know people like you are roaming the streets trying to force your religion down everyone's throats. You sir, are a monster.lowing wrote:
Peace, can only be attained by the convertion, death, or enslavment of non-believers.
If you can point where the bible TEACHES this shit I am all ears. What the bible does do is tell stories that has violence in it, but if there are actual teachings and instructions on what to do with non-believers point them out.Dilbert_X wrote:
Yawn, the teachings of the bible and the Torah are exactly the same.
The west has been picking on the muslims for a good while, now they are radicalised and responding we don't like it.
I have a religion?13/f/taiwan wrote:
That is very prejudice. It sickens me to know people like you are roaming the streets trying to force your religion down everyone's throats. You sir, are a monster.lowing wrote:
Peace, can only be attained by the convertion, death, or enslavment of non-believers.
Pretty sure there are plenty of bits where god tells moses to annihilate the unbelievers and god will lend a hand.lowing wrote:
What the bible does do is tell stories that has violence in it, but if there are actual teachings and instructions on what to do with non-believers point them out.
really? point it out, like I said the bible are stories that have violence in them, not teachings as to what to do to non-believers. and certainly not found in the techings of Christ. Shall we compare AGAIN, the teachings of Christ with the teachings of Muhammad?Dilbert_X wrote:
Pretty sure there are plenty of bits where god tells moses to annihilate the unbelievers and god will lend a hand.lowing wrote:
What the bible does do is tell stories that has violence in it, but if there are actual teachings and instructions on what to do with non-believers point them out.
You know, the chosen people can exterminate whoever they like.
Same thing lowing, God instructed Moses to exterminate non-believers or anyone occupying land the chosen people wanted, fruitloops use that as justification for exterminating non-believers and anyone occupying land they want.lowing wrote:
like I said the bible are stories that have violence in them, not teachings as to what to do to non-believers
STORIES, NOT TEACHIG, there is a difference, unless of course you are going to argue stories about god, are the same thing as a mortal man's written word and instruction.Dilbert_X wrote:
Same thing lowing, God instructed Moses to exterminate non-believers or anyone occupying land the chosen people wanted, fruitloops use that as justification for exterminating non-believers and anyone occupying land they want.lowing wrote:
like I said the bible are stories that have violence in them, not teachings as to what to do to non-believers
Same as Jesus only instructed his disciples, not anyone else.
You do not know how wrong this statement is. If you don't believe me check out things like state legislature, electoral college, and the only publicly elected officials (senators) being in office for 2 years.lowing wrote:
Believe it or not the Constitution was not written to curtail citizens, it was written to curtail govt. and it is being largely ignore by that govt.
"Peace, can only be attained by the convertion, death, or enslavment of non-believers."-lowinglowing wrote:
I have a religion?13/f/taiwan wrote:
That is very prejudice. It sickens me to know people like you are roaming the streets trying to force your religion down everyone's throats. You sir, are a monster.lowing wrote:
Peace, can only be attained by the convertion, death, or enslavment of non-believers.
I have teachings from the Koran that proves it, how 'bout you?
Oh, well maybe if your sources didn't photoshop the Koran to look like Kryptonite I'd take you more seriously.lowing wrote:
Aussie, the question is, and the point, is the teachings of Islam. unless you are gunna argue that the Koran does not contain these versus, then you really ain't got much to argue. I don't give a shit about the pics.
Peace, can only be attained by the convertion, death, or enslavment of non-believers.
Unless you're going to argue the bible isn't just as violent and intolerant there's not much to argue either.lowing wrote:
unless you are gunna argue that the Koran does not contain these versus, then you really ain't got much to argue
Hey Lowing thanks for the linklowing wrote:
Really? The Koran seems to differ http://nowscape.com/islam/koran_sura.htmLittle BaBy JESUS wrote:
So do you call the IRA Catholic Terrorism? or Timothy McVeigh Agnostic Terrorism? or the KKK White Supremacist Christian Terrorism?
Also, they don't have the backing of Islamic teaching because what they do goes against many Islamic laws and teachings. Just because some people influence the impressionable by claiming religious idea's does not mean the religion as a whole condones the activity.
Because none of their causes are faith based. Islamic terrorism is a direct result of Islam and its teachings.
Tell it to to Islams Imams that, don't tell me. They are the ones saying Islam permits the killing of non-believers. Not sure why you thnk you know more than the experts of Islam, ya know, the ones actually practicing it, and interpreting it. The leaders of IslamMekstizzle wrote:
The reason all this Islamic terrorist shit started isn't because one day some Muslims realised the Koran says all this shit about non-Muslims and so they decided to start flying planes into buildings. Islam has always had problems with other religions, I'll take that, but it's not really a purely Islamic thing as to why there is terrorism going on at the moment as if there is a war between Islam and non-Muslims. This is what I was talking about before with that post.
To think that the reason why all this terrorist shit is happening is purely an Islamic thing is to sort of misunderstand the whole thing. If it all really was as lowings says it is than there would have been a constant state of conflict between Islam and the rest of the world ever since the inception of that religion. It's not as if throughout history there has been this animosity specifically between Islam and the West the way lowing puts it. Just speaks of someone who doesn't really understand why all this shit is happening in the first place and prefers to take the easy route of just saying it's simply a problem with the religion itself, shit like that doesn't get anyone anywhere and it definitely doesn't go towards actually fixing it either.
I was outragedrammunition wrote:
Lowing please answer this.
On 11th May 2009 a American soldier killed 5 U.S soldiers at camp liberty. The killers name was Sgt. John M. Russell.
Why aren't you outraged by this?
Whats this guys religion so we can tie it with the crime?
It just so happens a Muslim has replicated an act done by non-Muslim soldiers in the past. There was one in 1991/2 where one used religion as a reason and he wasn't Muslim.
like I siad, the quotes are there, argue against them if you canAussieReaper wrote:
Oh, well maybe if your sources didn't photoshop the Koran to look like Kryptonite I'd take you more seriously.lowing wrote:
Aussie, the question is, and the point, is the teachings of Islam. unless you are gunna argue that the Koran does not contain these versus, then you really ain't got much to argue. I don't give a shit about the pics.
Peace, can only be attained by the convertion, death, or enslavment of non-believers.
You didn't really address anything I said at all.lowing wrote:
Tell it to to Islams Imams that, don't tell me. They are the ones saying Islam permits the killing of non-believers. Not sure why you thnk you know more than the experts of Islam, ya know, the ones actually practicing it, and interpreting it. The leaders of IslamMekstizzle wrote:
The reason all this Islamic terrorist shit started isn't because one day some Muslims realised the Koran says all this shit about non-Muslims and so they decided to start flying planes into buildings. Islam has always had problems with other religions, I'll take that, but it's not really a purely Islamic thing as to why there is terrorism going on at the moment as if there is a war between Islam and non-Muslims. This is what I was talking about before with that post.
To think that the reason why all this terrorist shit is happening is purely an Islamic thing is to sort of misunderstand the whole thing. If it all really was as lowings says it is than there would have been a constant state of conflict between Islam and the rest of the world ever since the inception of that religion. It's not as if throughout history there has been this animosity specifically between Islam and the West the way lowing puts it. Just speaks of someone who doesn't really understand why all this shit is happening in the first place and prefers to take the easy route of just saying it's simply a problem with the religion itself, shit like that doesn't get anyone anywhere and it definitely doesn't go towards actually fixing it either.
I also like how you can't pin this on one thing, unless you wanna blame the US then you can pin it on one thing. Noting when the US is blamed, yo are not here, saying wait a minute, ya can't just blame one thing.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world … on-map.jpg
http://maps.grida.no/go/graphic/crushed … -conflicts
Map of religions and map of world conflicts.
I am sure it is just a coincidence.
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I think I did address your post. Trouble is, you are fighting an uphill battle.Mekstizzle wrote:
You didn't really address anything I said at all.lowing wrote:
Tell it to to Islams Imams that, don't tell me. They are the ones saying Islam permits the killing of non-believers. Not sure why you thnk you know more than the experts of Islam, ya know, the ones actually practicing it, and interpreting it. The leaders of IslamMekstizzle wrote:
The reason all this Islamic terrorist shit started isn't because one day some Muslims realised the Koran says all this shit about non-Muslims and so they decided to start flying planes into buildings. Islam has always had problems with other religions, I'll take that, but it's not really a purely Islamic thing as to why there is terrorism going on at the moment as if there is a war between Islam and non-Muslims. This is what I was talking about before with that post.
To think that the reason why all this terrorist shit is happening is purely an Islamic thing is to sort of misunderstand the whole thing. If it all really was as lowings says it is than there would have been a constant state of conflict between Islam and the rest of the world ever since the inception of that religion. It's not as if throughout history there has been this animosity specifically between Islam and the West the way lowing puts it. Just speaks of someone who doesn't really understand why all this shit is happening in the first place and prefers to take the easy route of just saying it's simply a problem with the religion itself, shit like that doesn't get anyone anywhere and it definitely doesn't go towards actually fixing it either.
I also like how you can't pin this on one thing, unless you wanna blame the US then you can pin it on one thing. Noting when the US is blamed, yo are not here, saying wait a minute, ya can't just blame one thing.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world … on-map.jpg
http://maps.grida.no/go/graphic/crushed … -conflicts
Map of religions and map of world conflicts.
I am sure it is just a coincidence.
There is more to it than Islam simply hating on non-Muslims, if that was the case shit would be much bigger than it is now, and it would have been much bigger ever since the creation of Islam. There's no doubt that you get some of them preaching shit like that, but to say that's how it is everywhere is just silly.
Your not looking into the deeper reasons as to why there is this relatively new found animosity between certain Muslims and the West. Talking mainly 20th/21st century here. Because it hasn't been like this throughout history ever since Islam was formed.
I'm not even talking about the religion, I'm talking about why there is this animosity in the first place, and how although yes it is related to Islam, it's not the sole problem of everything.
You have to look through history and find out why is it that organisations like AQ came into existence and where all this hate for, especially the US, comes from.
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To be honest, your map of conflicts is just a reflection of how shit is right now. You go back 100 years and most of the conflicts is in Christian dominated areas (Europe mainly) whereas all the Muslim dominated areas were relatively peaceful. Nowadays it's different mainly because WW2 finally stopped Europe from fighting. It's sort of short sighted and naive to think in the way you're thinking.
