DeathBecomesYu
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S.Lythberg wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

{real science here}

To the families and victims of 9-11, maybe some day you can rest in peace....because they know the truth, there is nothing more truthful than death.
for the sake of length, i have edited, but it's good to see someone with background making an argument.

However, no amount of pictures of charred plane wheels, jet engine parts, known behavior of construction grade steel at 500 degrees after plastic deformation, or simple physics will convince conspiracy theorists that they aren't super cool and smarter than everyone.

These are the same people who believe the moon landing was faked, even if you hand them a moon rock

These are the same people who think that area 51 is anything other than an experimental aircraft testing ground

No amount of evidence will persuade them, it's best to just ignore them and get on with your life
Very, very true. It is why I don't post that much in here. Lately, almost all active threads in these forums becomes a "lowing" bashing thread and flies away from the main topic faster than anyone can say anything truly relevant.

Once in awhile, I'll post if I feel passionate enough about it. When I saw this thread creeping towards some really ridiculous info. I put up what I knew and hopefully some other people can put it to rest and get on with their lives as well.
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We live under a corrupt government and nothing has CHANGED as promised.
Change takes time.
I live in one of the hardest hit areas in the United States...Michigan. I live in the capital and the car plants here are ghost towns.
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SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
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I agree that alot of things stink about 9/11. ESPECIALLY the links between Al Qaeda, the CIA, MOSSAD, and the Pakistani ISI.  At the very least our governmetn KNEW nad LET it happen.  FFS bush got warnings in august titled BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES... what did he do?  Continued to play cowboy at the ranch... /fail.   @ brad, dude you are so far gone you have lost all objectivity, dude i was just like you when i was 16... Marine corps posters ALL over my room, dead set on going.  Then I found out how corrupt the system really is and decided there really was no freedom.  Just neo-fudelism at the hands of some rutheless finaicial oligarchs who pretty much rule the world. Why fight for that?
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6812|South Florida

ELITE-UK wrote:

Honestly, im more with that guy than you. He has points that need answering, though not all of them. There clearly was something not right with 9/11 and the whole truth is being withheld.

Just read about the attacks on the Pentagon, then things get bizzare.
And how building 7 that wasnt even hit - caught fire, randomly, and fell to the ground exactly evenly kinda like in controlled demolitions.



Its discusting that the people of America, including me at one time, were spoon fed this bullshit, pumped up with American patriot spirit, and suckered into many irreversable actions.


If a government can kill thousands of people on American soil, why is it so hard to believe they would engineer a virus? or make dangerous flu viruses.


And they allow the continued use of PCB's (pesticide chemical) on plants which has been linked to causing cancer and other deadly disorders/diseases.

Last edited by Mitch (2009-11-14 06:41:35)

15 more years! 15 more years!
Cybargs
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SonderKommando wrote:

I agree that alot of things stink about 9/11. ESPECIALLY the links between Al Qaeda, the CIA, MOSSAD, and the Pakistani ISI.  At the very least our governmetn KNEW nad LET it happen.  FFS bush got warnings in august titled BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES... what did he do?  Continued to play cowboy at the ranch... /fail.   @ brad, dude you are so far gone you have lost all objectivity, dude i was just like you when i was 16... Marine corps posters ALL over my room, dead set on going.  Then I found out how corrupt the system really is and decided there really was no freedom.  Just neo-fudelism at the hands of some rutheless finaicial oligarchs who pretty much rule the world. Why fight for that?
Clinton knew all along too, its not like they were 100% certain. So every little threat you get you plan on spending 50 billion dollars just to make the country more secure? Hell they used domestic flights to ram plane into buildings, people back then were thinking nukes or biological weapons.

Fail post is fail.
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Mitch
16 more years
+877|6812|South Florida

Cybargs wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

I agree that alot of things stink about 9/11. ESPECIALLY the links between Al Qaeda, the CIA, MOSSAD, and the Pakistani ISI.  At the very least our governmetn KNEW nad LET it happen.  FFS bush got warnings in august titled BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES... what did he do?  Continued to play cowboy at the ranch... /fail.   @ brad, dude you are so far gone you have lost all objectivity, dude i was just like you when i was 16... Marine corps posters ALL over my room, dead set on going.  Then I found out how corrupt the system really is and decided there really was no freedom.  Just neo-fudelism at the hands of some rutheless finaicial oligarchs who pretty much rule the world. Why fight for that?
Clinton knew all along too, its not like they were 100% certain. So every little threat you get you plan on spending 50 billion dollars just to make the country more secure? Hell they used domestic flights to ram plane into buildings, people back then were thinking nukes or biological weapons.

Fail post is fail.
The only correct thing you posted was that clinton knew. i believe this plan has been underway for a couple presidencies. Probly starting with Bush senior. However let us not forget when the Federal Reserve was created in 1913 - Thats when we lost our money system to private corruption.

People just keep ignoring the factssss

Prescott bush tried overthrowing the us government and turning it into a facist control.

^ It happened.

Last edited by Mitch (2009-11-14 07:52:16)

15 more years! 15 more years!
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6946|The darkside of Denver

Cybargs wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

I agree that alot of things stink about 9/11. ESPECIALLY the links between Al Qaeda, the CIA, MOSSAD, and the Pakistani ISI.  At the very least our governmetn KNEW nad LET it happen.  FFS bush got warnings in august titled BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES... what did he do?  Continued to play cowboy at the ranch... /fail.   @ brad, dude you are so far gone you have lost all objectivity, dude i was just like you when i was 16... Marine corps posters ALL over my room, dead set on going.  Then I found out how corrupt the system really is and decided there really was no freedom.  Just neo-fudelism at the hands of some rutheless finaicial oligarchs who pretty much rule the world. Why fight for that?
Clinton knew all along too, its not like they were 100% certain. So every little threat you get you plan on spending 50 billion dollars just to make the country more secure? Hell they used domestic flights to ram plane into buildings, people back then were thinking nukes or biological weapons.

Fail post is fail.
No, your fail post is fail.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91651&page=1 

bush warned terrorist may use airplanes as weapons.
Cybargs
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SonderKommando wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

I agree that alot of things stink about 9/11. ESPECIALLY the links between Al Qaeda, the CIA, MOSSAD, and the Pakistani ISI.  At the very least our governmetn KNEW nad LET it happen.  FFS bush got warnings in august titled BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES... what did he do?  Continued to play cowboy at the ranch... /fail.   @ brad, dude you are so far gone you have lost all objectivity, dude i was just like you when i was 16... Marine corps posters ALL over my room, dead set on going.  Then I found out how corrupt the system really is and decided there really was no freedom.  Just neo-fudelism at the hands of some rutheless finaicial oligarchs who pretty much rule the world. Why fight for that?
Clinton knew all along too, its not like they were 100% certain. So every little threat you get you plan on spending 50 billion dollars just to make the country more secure? Hell they used domestic flights to ram plane into buildings, people back then were thinking nukes or biological weapons.

Fail post is fail.
No, your fail post is fail.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91651&page=1 

bush warned terrorist may use airplanes as weapons.
And how would they know that every single day is going to be an attack? Fuck they couldn't even see the missing plane on radar and there were only 4 fighters in flight in the entire east coast area. Why are there only 4 fighters? Because the cold war is fucking over. Al Qaeda have been doing shit for a decade and still no one took them seriously.

Its not like anyone thought Bin Laden was serious as he was just a pissed off Hajji. There is nothing you can do to prevent it, hell the white house might get attacked tomorrow and no one would know that would happen.
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Stubbee
Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts
+223|7030|Reality

Mitch wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

Honestly, im more with that guy than you. He has points that need answering, though not all of them. There clearly was something not right with 9/11 and the whole truth is being withheld.

Just read about the attacks on the Pentagon, then things get bizzare.
And how building 7 that wasnt even hit - caught fire, randomly, and fell to the ground exactly evenly kinda like in controlled demolitions.



Its discusting that the people of America, including me at one time, were spoon fed this bullshit, pumped up with American patriot spirit, and suckered into many irreversable actions.


If a government can kill thousands of people on American soil, why is it so hard to believe they would engineer a virus? or make dangerous flu viruses.


And they allow the continued use of PCB's (pesticide chemical) on plants which has been linked to causing cancer and other deadly disorders/diseases.
Building 7 was hit by debris from the twin towers. Due to electrical and water issues the sprinkler system would not activate. I guess when millions of pounds of building fall down it tends to fuck up the surrounding electrical grid and water mains?

Building 7 came down for the same exact reason as the Twin Towers: fire removed the temper from the structural steel i.e. greatly reduced the steel's ability to hold a load.

http://www.pwri.go.jp/eng/ujnr/joint/35 … sakumo.pdf

more technical:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1-3DDraft.pdf

Last edited by Stubbee (2009-11-14 20:52:43)

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S.Lythberg
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Stubbee wrote:

Mitch wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

Honestly, im more with that guy than you. He has points that need answering, though not all of them. There clearly was something not right with 9/11 and the whole truth is being withheld.

Just read about the attacks on the Pentagon, then things get bizzare.
And how building 7 that wasnt even hit - caught fire, randomly, and fell to the ground exactly evenly kinda like in controlled demolitions.



Its discusting that the people of America, including me at one time, were spoon fed this bullshit, pumped up with American patriot spirit, and suckered into many irreversable actions.


If a government can kill thousands of people on American soil, why is it so hard to believe they would engineer a virus? or make dangerous flu viruses.


And they allow the continued use of PCB's (pesticide chemical) on plants which has been linked to causing cancer and other deadly disorders/diseases.
Building 7 was hit by debris from the twin towers. Due to electrical and water issues the sprinkler system would not activate. I guess when millions of pounds of building fall down it tends to fuck up the surrounding electrical grid and water mains?

Building 7 came down for the same exact reason as the Twin Towers: fire removed the temper from the structural steel i.e. greatly reduced the steel's ability to hold a load.

http://www.pwri.go.jp/eng/ujnr/joint/35 … sakumo.pdf

more technical:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1-3DDraft.pdf
Silly, conspiracy theorists don't believe in physics

why a controlled demolition of an already evacuated building would have benefited anyone, I'll never know...
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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Mitch wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

Honestly, im more with that guy than you. He has points that need answering, though not all of them. There clearly was something not right with 9/11 and the whole truth is being withheld.

Just read about the attacks on the Pentagon, then things get bizzare.
And how building 7 that wasnt even hit - caught fire, randomly, and fell to the ground exactly evenly kinda like in controlled demolitions.



Its discusting that the people of America, including me at one time, were spoon fed this bullshit, pumped up with American patriot spirit, and suckered into many irreversable actions.


If a government can kill thousands of people on American soil, why is it so hard to believe they would engineer a virus? or make dangerous flu viruses.


And they allow the continued use of PCB's (pesticide chemical) on plants which has been linked to causing cancer and other deadly disorders/diseases.
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