BF2S Forums Yeah, the Ft Hood shooter was just a guy who went insane

Kmarion wrote:

Here we go with the old/new testament stuff. Christians are told to follow the teachings of Christ.

Yes I realise that. That wasn't my point.

Just as the vast majority of Muslims are taught to be peaceful.

EDIT: My point is that some area's of the koran seem violent. This is no different to area's of the bible that seem violent. Neither religion practices the violence found within their holy text. Only extremists.

Last edited by Little BaBy JESUS (2009-11-08 20:48:48)

Fair enough.


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If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things. [8:61]

"And the servants of Allah . . . are those who walked on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say 'Peace'" [25:63]

"Allah is with those who restrain themselves." [16: 128]

Whoever kills another one without justifiable cause, surely he is killing all of humanity. And whoever saves the life of another one, surely he saves the lives of all of humanity. [Sura Al Ma'aidah: Ayah 32]

Last edited by Little BaBy JESUS (2009-11-08 20:51:52)

this has turned out well.

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

this has turned out well.

When the OP basically consists of a video saying "Guys! We've cracked it! There are crazy people in the world!!!" don't expect much

no but you cant deny that this mosque and many others are filled with "moderates" who are saying/thinking the same thing.

yes but what i am saying is by supporting their actions you are just as bad imo.

So has Islam always been radical or is radicalism a response to Western bullying?
You can twist any of the major religions however you like really.

Were the Qurayza Jews western?

Dilbert_X wrote:

You can argue Christianity hasn't changed either, just supplanted the backwards OT.

Isn't that evolving your ideology?

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Fair enough.


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If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things. [8:61]

"And the servants of Allah . . . are those who walked on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say 'Peace'" [25:63]

"Allah is with those who restrain themselves." [16: 128]

Whoever kills another one without justifiable cause, surely he is killing all of humanity. And whoever saves the life of another one, surely he saves the lives of all of humanity. [Sura Al Ma'aidah: Ayah 32]

You have to understand that the concept of what takes precedence in the Bible and in the Qu'ran is different. The Qu'ran is written from longest to shortest surah (or vice versa), not from oldest to newest. Thus, the most recent revelations to Muhammad are not always the ones latest in the book...but the ones appearing latest take precedence, just as in the Bible.

So, if you have a very peace-filled, love everyone surah that was revealed after a shorter, hate and blood, "kill the infidel" one...guess which one takes precedence? It would be like having some of that bad Deuteronomy shit right in the middle of the New Testament.

So it turns out this guy knew some of the 911 terrorists, it turns out he was an extremist, he managed to gun down his enemy on their home turf, in essence a suicide attack. He has sympathizers gathering in support of his actions, IN THE USA. and I have read posts here and in the other thread that steps up to the line that almost makes this guy the victim...

Truth is, as I said before, all of the those that see Islam for what it is has to do is sit back and watch it unfold, while all of you defenders of Islam and PC scramble to justify, rationalize dismiss, and deny it. The burden of proof is most definitely on you.

In the other thread I made a list of all of your standard excuses for easy reference, but then again, you all know them by heart anyway.

Last edited by lowing (2009-11-09 08:35:38)

mikkel wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

When the OP basically consists of a video saying "Guys! We've cracked it! There are crazy people in the world!!!" don't expect much

no but you cant deny that this mosque and many others are filled with "moderates" who are saying/thinking the same thing.

In the same manner that many churches were and are also filled with "moderates" from the "nuke the middle east and torture the terrorists" crowds, and just as many synagogues were and are filled with "moderate" people who'd like nothing more than see the neighbours of Israel destroyed. Extremism is everywhere, and in all organised religions. It's nothing new, so you really shouldn't expect much.

see?

mikkel wrote:

lowing wrote:

mikkel wrote:

In the same manner that many churches were and are also filled with "moderates" from the "nuke the middle east and torture the terrorists" crowds, and just as many synagogues were and are filled with "moderate" people who'd like nothing more than see the neighbours of Israel destroyed. Extremism is everywhere, and in all organised religions. It's nothing new, so you really shouldn't expect much.

see?

Don't quote me, lowing. No one takes you seriously any more, and I certainly don't want to waste my time with you any more than I absolutely have to.

see again? another classic example

don't get pissed at me because Islam is proving me right.

Last edited by lowing (2009-11-09 09:05:43)

rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Don't quote me, lowing. No one takes you seriously any more, and I certainly don't want to waste my time with you any more than I absolutely have to.

see again? another classic example

don't get pissed at me because Islam is proving me right.

So you have decided to become Muslim?

Not really sure how you can draw that conclusion from the first Isamic terrorist attack within US borders since 911, ( less than a year into Obama's watch) but hey, it ain't the first time you have conjured up some bullshit that deep.