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So anyway Japan is starting soon. For Button, it goes like this:

Button will win the title in Japan if...

- He wins and Barrichello is lower than third
- He is second and Barrichello is lower than fifth
- He is third and Barrichello is lower than seventh
- If he is fourth and Barrichello is lower than eighth

What say you, bf2s. I don't think he'll win it at Japan tbh, actually I think this one will go down to Abu Dhabi (last GP) but somehow I don't think it will go down to the last lap last corner with Button overtaking someone and winning the championship and then making the other drivers team go from happy to wall punching madness

Bell wrote:

Well that was different..............

almost 3hours of qually

They messed up not putting the inters on. What are the conditions gonna be like in a few hours? If it's dry all those people who qualified using wetter/intermediate setups are going to be screwed by the cars that qualified shit but are on dry setups for the race. I bet the race is going to be dry, and that Button will again luck out as he has been doing since he hasn't won a race and somehow things will go favourable for him. He might not win it today, but today won't hit his title chances that hard either.

Awesome race.

Button was amazing.




And Kobayashi.... The new Takuma Sato, I love him already

Well done Jenson Button.

Excellent.

I'd still say Button was an average, maybe slightly above average driver in a super cool car. Apart from the last race where he was still lucky with the safety car and being behind only rookies who he had to overtake, he's not had it that hard. You can go back to times where Lewis Hamilton was flying ahead of everyone else only to be pegged back multiple times by the safety car yet still win the race comfortably, or where the rain comes in and people still get the job done.

I think a number of factors played into him winning the Championship, but the main reason was the car was just awesome, and it was a car that Honda developed before they fucked off, probably because it cost so much to develop that car.

He is better than Rubens though. Still this season, they deserve the title because all the other teams failed and they didn't. They all had an open goal but they kept on missing consistently.

Whoever wins the WDC always deserves it, but I still think Button is one of the more odd WDC champions. Defo not the greatest in terms of actual driving ability

Still haven't heard anything about the Pit Lane thing, they didn't show properly what happened during Replays either. Same for the Sutil/Trulli/Alonso collision, no update on that either

Mekstizzle wrote:

I'd still say Button was an average, maybe slightly above average driver in a super cool car. Apart from the last race where he was still lucky with the safety car and being behind only rookies who he had to overtake, he's not had it that hard. You can go back to times where Lewis Hamilton was flying ahead of everyone else only to be pegged back multiple times by the safety car yet still win the race comfortably, or where the rain comes in and people still get the job done.

I think a number of factors played into him winning the Championship, but the main reason was the car was just awesome, and it was a car that Honda developed before they fucked off, probably because it cost so much to develop that car.

He is better than Rubens though. Still this season, they deserve the title because all the other teams failed and they didn't. They all had an open goal but they kept on missing consistently.

Whoever wins the WDC always deserves it, but I still think Button is one of the more odd WDC champions. Defo not the greatest in terms of actual driving ability

Compare him to hamilton though, he won more races this season that hamilton did last season.  True they all did seem to happen at the very start, and the car, probably did gift them to him, but it is really the car that pulls it off.  Schumi somewhat admited to that on Top gear if you remember.  A descent driver in the best car will beat more talented ones in lesser cars, it's about the whole package.

Consider this though, if Button won six of the last seven races this season, and was no where at the begining, lets say the Brawn started off medicore, and then became a beast, the press would be touting it as the second coming!

Am very pleased he pulled it off, probably cause I had a bet on he would () but I think, when you look at it, atleast compaired to what hamilton did last year, he has won more races in his championship year, and hamilton did in his (regardless when they happened).  Happens in football, and indeed any sport, half the battle, isnt so much how good you are, but how well your competition can react.  The simple fact of the matter is, despite his less than inspiring performances (bar monza and spain) none of the other drivers capitalised on Buttons misfortune.  There failure is there own making, not Buttons.

Though I would of loved to see webber win it

Bell wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

I'd still say Button was an average, maybe slightly above average driver in a super cool car. Apart from the last race where he was still lucky with the safety car and being behind only rookies who he had to overtake, he's not had it that hard. You can go back to times where Lewis Hamilton was flying ahead of everyone else only to be pegged back multiple times by the safety car yet still win the race comfortably, or where the rain comes in and people still get the job done.

I think a number of factors played into him winning the Championship, but the main reason was the car was just awesome, and it was a car that Honda developed before they fucked off, probably because it cost so much to develop that car.

He is better than Rubens though. Still this season, they deserve the title because all the other teams failed and they didn't. They all had an open goal but they kept on missing consistently.

Whoever wins the WDC always deserves it, but I still think Button is one of the more odd WDC champions. Defo not the greatest in terms of actual driving ability

Compare him to hamilton though, he won more races this season that hamilton did last season.  True they all did seem to happen at the very start, and the car, probably did gift them to him, but it is really the car that pulls it off.  Schumi somewhat admited to that on Top gear if you remember.  A descent driver in the best car will beat more talented ones in lesser cars, it's about the whole package.

Consider this though, if Button won six of the last seven races this season, and was no where at the begining, lets say the Brawn started off medicore, and then became a beast, the press would be touting it as the second coming!

Am very pleased he pulled it off, probably cause I had a bet on he would () but I think, when you look at it, atleast compaired to what hamilton did last year, he has won more races in his championship year, and hamilton did in his (regardless when they happened).  Happens in football, and indeed any sport, half the battle, isnt so much how good you are, but how well your competition can react.  The simple fact of the matter is, despite his less than inspiring performances (bar monza and spain) none of the other drivers capitalised on Buttons misfortune.  There failure is there own making, not Buttons.

Though I would of loved to see webber win it

But this season was more about the car than about the driver. Honda had developed an awesome car for this season, and considering this season had massive technical changes, they really went out for it, but then money issues came in and they had to abandon until Brawn saved the team.

They weren't nowhere at the beginning they weren't really a "new" team they were on the backbone of Honda's financial clout which produced that awesome car.

The reason I say more car than driver than most other seasons is because you could clearly see it this season, as soon as the other cars became competitive (second half of the season) Brawn/Button slipped down and couldn't handle it. He was happy winning the races when his car was miles ahead but when things became closer he fell off dramatically. Whereas with other champions they've done better in much more competitive environments.

Yes he did win more than Hamilton but in a much less competitive environment. Once things became more competitive he really showed that he's an average driver that was in an awesome car. By just looking at the results of all the races you can see it clear as day the Brawn drivers fell off dramatically once the other teams got their act together, it's just that nobody specific could string a few wins togethor and mount a real challenge to Brawns early dominance.

So...Toyota leave F1...this gives Sauber a sporting chance to remain on the grid for next season.  Good on them.  The car was fairly competetive toward the end of the year, I see nothing but good things comming from this (for Sauber).
Maybe now we'll be rid of Trulli and his antics.

Toyota statement in full:
http://planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5673216,00.html

Only thing that annoys me is that Kobayashi might not get a drive for next season. The guy showed promise and was interesting to watch. Better than all the other newcomers that's for sure.