BF2S Forums Seriously fix the J-10 already

Here are some simple truths:

1) J-10 with a good pilot vs. JSF with a bad pilot = J-10 wins.
2) J-10 with a bad pilot vs. JSF with a good pilot = JSF wins.
3) J-10 with a bad pilot vs. JSF with a bad pilot = J-10 wins.
4) J-10 with a good pilot vs. JSF with a good pilot = J-10 wins.

See the problem? Yes, you can argue that they are different units, different strengths... J-10 is better at air-to-air and JSF is better at raping the ground (due to having so many more MG rounds), etc. Purely comparing dog-fight capability, the J-10 is superior.

Is that worthy of a change? Maybe, maybe not. But it is true that the J-10 is a better jet, more maneuverable, AA missiles hit more often, easier to evade AA missiles with and is faster.

Last edited by Torin (2006-04-14 06:37:03)

I love the J-10. If i get the J-10, no other plane is going to shoot me down. Unless... i dont pay attencion. For example, if im taking out a tow or what ever and out of flares... and it gets a lock on me and i take it out... a plane behind me also got a lock on me at the same time as the tow, witch i did not see. Didnt check my rear. If the J-10 has a normal speed, no flares and going straight... you can very easy take it out with some missiles. Yes  it can turn harder and such, but in those situations, its too late. If you got a lock on a J-10, and it just starts to turn, it is dead. And, not 100% sure about this though but, if you lock on a plane and it drops flares AND uses the afterburn at the same time.. the missiles will go straight for the plane instead of the flares. Correct me if i am wrong here. I never use the afterburn when i drop flares... maybe if i am already turning, but not when im going straight forward while droping flares.
Its overpowered? Hmm... a J-10 is a J-10. A bomber is a bomber. It has 5 bombs!! A J-10 has 2... ITS UNFAIR!!! Just kidding of course. The F-35 has 500 or was it 600 mg rounds? The J-10 has 300. Damn, now i actually dont remember. But the point is... thats how the things are!!! Some planes are better than others. Some have more of this, some have more of that. Bushviper has great infantry stats... and aviator stats too of course. But he would kick the shit out of me on the ground. So make a patch where it will be easier for me to kill him on foot!!!!! Ridiculose to say such a thing, right? Yeah, same with planes. I suck on foot... im decent in the air. Maybe better than decent . The whole point is that people are asking Dice to fix the game for them because they struggle with certan things! I always get killed by people playing support.... spec ops... and so on. Its because i suck on foot like i said. Making a patch so it will be easier for me to kill others is wrong. My english sucks also... ridiculose that they didnt make the exam in school easier so i got an A!!!!!!

Btw..... who has the best aviator stats that you have seen?? Best ive seen so far is Bushviper. |ccc||planewhore had.. what, 66 or something, but that was before patch 1.2. Easier to take down a plane now.

Last edited by SteikeTa (2006-04-15 03:21:29)

I'm no hardcore jet pilot but the few times that i have flown them i can tell ya, i get most kills with the J-10. It really is the only jet i'll ever get in (besides the bombers).

Reasons why i like it, my missiles tend to hit other planes when usually they skim off. That and it's really manuverable.

blacksheepcannibal wrote:

okay, no seriously. ive shot them down. in the JSF. ive shot them down in the F/A-18. ive shot them down using the AA on the Essex. ive shot them down with another J-10. ive shot them down with the F-15E.

*what matters is not the plane, but the person piloting the plane*

the J-10 is a strong jet versus your average pilot. it is not invicible. all other things being equal, two pilots of the same skill can dogfight with a J-10 and an F-18. (JSF is a little crappy, so i wont include that). The problem is, most people are uneducated on how to properly excecute low altitude dogfighting, so they think, hey, i just turn in circles until the guy is in my sights, right?

Try a few break-s's, a few split-s's, maybe even a hi yo-yo or two. do not try a scissors, because the J-10 has a faster turn rate. try dogfighting using intellegence, tactic, and wit, instead of just raw turning, and maybe youll understand that the J-10 is not invincible.

the only thing that DICE (because EA doesnt design the game, they publish it) needs to fix on the J-10 is the missle hitbox. J-10's can seriously dodge some missles. but then, i dont see that you are complaining about that, you just think the J-10 is teh uber.

damn straight.if they wanna whine about J-10's they can take it back to ace combat.hell,i dont even pilot much and i can down a j-10 with moderate effort.if they want to learn how to really fly,they should pick up a cheap simulator (f-22 raptor by ubisoft,and microsoft ww2 european front combat simulator are great games for learning how to dogfight properly.).its not that damn hard,most people that complain their ass off are the same noobs that kill each other over a plane,then crash 15 seconds after take off becuase they cant tell the sky from the ground.sure it has a speed advantage,but has lessened stabability,ive seen it outmanover it's pilots ability to control itself,and thus i see alot of kamikazing,especially when the pilot gets spooked by a missile.the j-10 is a paper plane and cant take a hit worth anything in my opinion.use your wits when your in an air battle and youll end up on top.spinning in a constant circle will get you killed by any pilot that knows what he is doing.

wow, a lot of u kids like easy kills huh?


All this 'i shoot down a j-10 no problem' cracks me up....

but you kids defend your position


its not worth the argument.