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Does this guy have a right to run down his daughter for adopting Western culture?
Does this guy have a right to run down his daughter for adopting Western culture?
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Last edited by lowing (2009-10-21 21:11:17)
I fail to see where you pulled that one from. Arab =/= Islam, they have a culture beyond their religion you know."as she had become too 'Westernized' and was not living according to [the family's] traditional Iraqi values,"
I see, Spark thinks they are not Islam. Wanna put money on that spark?Spark wrote:
I fail to see where you pulled that one from. Arab =/= Islam, they have a culture beyond their religion you know."as she had become too 'Westernized' and was not living according to [the family's] traditional Iraqi values,"
I didn't say they were or weren't Islamic. I'm saying that you claiming this is because they disobeyed Islamic law - when the article merely said "Iraqi values" (hint: Iraq is not a sharia nation and is not paticularly zealous in its religion. That stuff is saved for over the border, in Saudi. Iraq is probably one of the most secular nations in the area) - that's taking a stretch to make a cheap point.lowing wrote:
I see, Spark thinks they are not Islam. Wanna put money on that spark?Spark wrote:
I fail to see where you pulled that one from. Arab =/= Islam, they have a culture beyond their religion you know."as she had become too 'Westernized' and was not living according to [the family's] traditional Iraqi values,"
fine, I will take Muslim, you can have any other religion..........Wanna bet?Spark wrote:
I didn't say they were or weren't Islamic. I'm saying that you claiming this is because they disobeyed Islamic law - when the article merely said "Iraqi values" (hint: Iraq is not a sharia nation and is not paticularly zealous in its religion. That stuff is saved for over the border, in Saudi. Iraq is probably one of the most secular nations in the area) - that's taking a stretch to make a cheap point.lowing wrote:
I see, Spark thinks they are not Islam. Wanna put money on that spark?Spark wrote:
I fail to see where you pulled that one from. Arab =/= Islam, they have a culture beyond their religion you know.
How about "this might not actually have that much to do with religion"?lowing wrote:
fine, I will take Muslim, you can have any other religion..........Wanna bet?Spark wrote:
I didn't say they were or weren't Islamic. I'm saying that you claiming this is because they disobeyed Islamic law - when the article merely said "Iraqi values" (hint: Iraq is not a sharia nation and is not paticularly zealous in its religion. That stuff is saved for over the border, in Saudi. Iraq is probably one of the most secular nations in the area) - that's taking a stretch to make a cheap point.lowing wrote:
I see, Spark thinks they are not Islam. Wanna put money on that spark?
Fine............Wanna bet?Spark wrote:
How about "this might not actually have that much to do with religion"?lowing wrote:
fine, I will take Muslim, you can have any other religion..........Wanna bet?Spark wrote:
I didn't say they were or weren't Islamic. I'm saying that you claiming this is because they disobeyed Islamic law - when the article merely said "Iraqi values" (hint: Iraq is not a sharia nation and is not paticularly zealous in its religion. That stuff is saved for over the border, in Saudi. Iraq is probably one of the most secular nations in the area) - that's taking a stretch to make a cheap point.
Then you will forgive me if continue I hate that religion and culture and want to keep it out of western society until they adopt western values. Or stay the fuck in the ME.Dilbert_X wrote:
Islamic culture will change, they are slowly becoming more westernised, its going to take a generation or so.
I watched a program about Saudi Arabia, they know they can only move towards a more Westernised culture but they are stuck with a majority of conservative elders who think smiling is un-islamic.
We need to wait for these guys to die out, the young to take their place and change their society.
Here's the hypocrisy.lowing wrote:
Then you will forgive me if continue I hate that religion and culture and want to keep it out of western society until they adopt western values. Or stay the fuck in the ME.Dilbert_X wrote:
Islamic culture will change, they are slowly becoming more westernised, its going to take a generation or so.
I watched a program about Saudi Arabia, they know they can only move towards a more Westernised culture but they are stuck with a majority of conservative elders who think smiling is un-islamic.
We need to wait for these guys to die out, the young to take their place and change their society.
because most people like the fact that women can do what they want and we dont live in the stone age. they just cant say it because they will be killed.rammunition wrote:
Here's the hypocrisy.lowing wrote:
Then you will forgive me if continue I hate that religion and culture and want to keep it out of western society until they adopt western values. Or stay the fuck in the ME.Dilbert_X wrote:
Islamic culture will change, they are slowly becoming more westernised, its going to take a generation or so.
I watched a program about Saudi Arabia, they know they can only move towards a more Westernised culture but they are stuck with a majority of conservative elders who think smiling is un-islamic.
We need to wait for these guys to die out, the young to take their place and change their society.
You hate it when "they" bring their culture over here, but want them to adopt "your" culture? Why should they adopt "your" culture when you won't adopt "theirs"?
Because most of the world uses that culture and its kind of the norm?rammunition wrote:
Here's the hypocrisy.lowing wrote:
Then you will forgive me if continue I hate that religion and culture and want to keep it out of western society until they adopt western values. Or stay the fuck in the ME.Dilbert_X wrote:
Islamic culture will change, they are slowly becoming more westernised, its going to take a generation or so.
I watched a program about Saudi Arabia, they know they can only move towards a more Westernised culture but they are stuck with a majority of conservative elders who think smiling is un-islamic.
We need to wait for these guys to die out, the young to take their place and change their society.
You hate it when "they" bring their culture over here, but want them to adopt "your" culture? Why should they adopt "your" culture when you won't adopt "theirs"?
Great idearammunition wrote:
Here's the hypocrisy.
You hate it when "they" bring their culture over here, but want them to adopt "your" culture? Why should they adopt "your" culture when you won't adopt "theirs"?
yep. im gonna go stone some hookers.Pug wrote:
Great idearammunition wrote:
Here's the hypocrisy.
You hate it when "they" bring their culture over here, but want them to adopt "your" culture? Why should they adopt "your" culture when you won't adopt "theirs"?
I'm going to go home and run over my daughter so I can fit in.
and then blame the west for hookersRed Forman wrote:
yep. im gonna go stone some hookers.Pug wrote:
Great idearammunition wrote:
Here's the hypocrisy.
You hate it when "they" bring their culture over here, but want them to adopt "your" culture? Why should they adopt "your" culture when you won't adopt "theirs"?
I'm going to go home and run over my daughter so I can fit in.
make sure to toss acid on the hookers first.Pug wrote:
and then blame the west for hookersRed Forman wrote:
yep. im gonna go stone some hookers.Pug wrote:
Great idea
I'm going to go home and run over my daughter so I can fit in.
whoa there buddyDBBrinson1 wrote:
make sure to toss acid on the hookers first.Pug wrote:
and then blame the west for hookersRed Forman wrote:
yep. im gonna go stone some hookers.
Sorry.. Got swept up in the "lets be like muslims"Pug wrote:
whoa there buddyDBBrinson1 wrote:
make sure to toss acid on the hookers first.Pug wrote:
and then blame the west for hookers
let's not take this too far
Because they moved to "my" country and into "my" culture. I'm all for tolerance, but if you move to an entirely different culture don't expect to be able to completely keep yours. If he didn't want his daughter to become Westernized then he shoulda stayed the hell outta the West.rammunition wrote:
You hate it when "they" bring their culture over here, but want them to adopt "your" culture? Why should they adopt "your" culture when you won't adopt "theirs"?