Did you miss Kennedy's speech in Berlin or Bill Clinton's visit to Belfast or something?lowing wrote:
yeah, hence the fainting and crying over the mere sight of him, because he wasn't a Republican. By the way, before you said it could have been anyone else, and yet NO ONE else received that kind of welcome. Uhhhhhh EVER.
yet you did not encourage or welcome Hillary, or any other candidate. Cam you are so full of shit regarding Europes love of Obama. But then again this coming from a guy who claims their are only a "few" Muslims in Europe.CameronPoe wrote:
We loved Mr. [Insert Non-Republican]. Sheesh. Empathise for once. What special traits did he have that were so appealing to us? He had most of the same manifesto as Hilldog.lowing wrote:
I played the odds, forgive me.
Thats funny, I DO RECALL the Obama/ European love affair you are denying now. That is equally as puzzling.
nope, did people faint, and cry and throw panties on the stage during those events?CameronPoe wrote:
Did you miss Kennedy's speech in Berlin or Bill Clinton's visit to Belfast or something?lowing wrote:
yeah, hence the fainting and crying over the mere sight of him, because he wasn't a Republican. By the way, before you said it could have been anyone else, and yet NO ONE else received that kind of welcome. Uhhhhhh EVER.
Hillary is in Dublin today as we speak and will probably get a raucous reception when she visits Belfast tomorrow for all of her and her husband's efforts on the Northern Ireland peace process, as she has done in the past. You know shit about Europe. Your ridiculous fawning after you visited Germany was the ultimate illustration of naivety, insularity and retardedness.lowing wrote:
yet you did not encourage or welcome Hillary, or any other candidate. Cam you are so full of shit regarding Europes love of Obama. But then again this coming from a guy who claims their are only a "few" Muslims in Europe.
I'm pretty sure that didn't happen when Obama came to town either... superlatives much...? lowing's mind must be like some kind of twilight zone.lowing wrote:
nope, did people faint, and cry and throw panties on the stage during those events?
lol.....i support people cuz they aint republican/democrat. man you just made yourself look stupid.
yeah, let me know if it is just another event, or Michael Jackson type welcome such as the one Obama got.CameronPoe wrote:
Hillary is in Dublin today as we speak and will probably get a raucous reception when she visits Belfast tomorrow for all of her and her husband's efforts on the Northern Ireland peace process, as she has done in the past. You know shit about Europe. Your ridiculous fawning after you visited Germany was the ultimate illustration of naivety, insularity and retardedness.lowing wrote:
yet you did not encourage or welcome Hillary, or any other candidate. Cam you are so full of shit regarding Europes love of Obama. But then again this coming from a guy who claims their are only a "few" Muslims in Europe.
As my trip to Germany went. I reported my experiences and nothing more.
Then we have something in common now then! lewlzRed Forman wrote:
lol.....i support people cuz they aint republican/democrat. man you just made yourself look stupid.
Well last time they turned up in Belfast they were greeted by tens of thousands of cheering locals with little American flags. Last time Bush was here they had to cordon off the area to prevent large groups of protestors getting anywhere near the venue for his speech....lowing wrote:
yeah, let me know if it is just another event, or Michael Jackson type welcome such as the one Obama got.
As my trip to Germany went. I reported my experiences and nothing more.
no. i dont vote/support like that. i hate people like that. its so robotic.CameronPoe wrote:
Then we have something in common now then! lewlzRed Forman wrote:
lol.....i support people cuz they aint republican/democrat. man you just made yourself look stupid.
and yes i know what you meant
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So what do you do? When there is no good option you must take the lesser of the two evils. That is logic. Not voting is what is stupid.Red Forman wrote:
no. i dont vote/support like that. i hate people like that. its so robotic.CameronPoe wrote:
Then we have something in common now then! lewlzRed Forman wrote:
lol.....i support people cuz they aint republican/democrat. man you just made yourself look stupid.
voting for someone you dont like or agree with is stupid. that diminishes the power of the vote imo.
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In the Irish context I will probably vote independent next time, an independent that is unlikely to go into coalition with the party I dislike the most. In the American context I wouldn't bother voting for a third party because I might end up being governed by people I intensely despise. Once a third party over there grew a pair of balls I'd probably change my ways.Red Forman wrote:
voting for someone you dont like or agree with is stupid. that diminishes the power of the vote imo.
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Not true at all.Red Forman wrote:
voting for someone you dont like or agree with is stupid. that diminishes the power of the vote imo.
If you prefer one side to the other, you vote for the side you prefer. That doesn't mean you agree with them, you just disagree less.
Not voting in that sort of situation diminishes the power of the vote.
i dont vote cuz i prefer one side. i hate that and thnk it is lame. dont tell me what i think isnt true. its my opnion. there is no real answer.
There certainly is a real answer, and I've just given you it.Red Forman wrote:
i dont vote cuz i prefer one side. i hate that and thnk it is lame. dont tell me what i think isnt true. its my opnion. there is no real answer.
Just because it's your opinion doesn't make it so.
Voter apathy in all forms diminishes the power of the vote.
are you posting on your ps3Red Forman wrote:
i dont vote cuz i prefer one side. i hate that and thnk it is lame. dont tell me what i think isnt true. its my opnion. there is no real answer.
says you. i think you are wrong. voting party lines is gay.
So, Europe does not care about or love Obama, (no proof of that), they just hate Bush. THis is the story you wanna stick with?
a work laptopMekstizzle wrote:
are you posting on your ps3Red Forman wrote:
i dont vote cuz i prefer one side. i hate that and thnk it is lame. dont tell me what i think isnt true. its my opnion. there is no real answer.
You can't really blame people for not voting if the parties are too incompetent to actually have a policy platform that actually makes people want to vote.
IE. I don't think you can blame the surely low turnouts in next year's UK general election on 'voter apathy'.
IE. I don't think you can blame the surely low turnouts in next year's UK general election on 'voter apathy'.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
What do party lines have to do with any of this?Red Forman wrote:
says you. i think you are wrong. voting party lines is gay.
It's common sense. You vote for what you prefer. The only time it would make sense not to vote is if you liked/hated each faction equally.
We do care about Obama, in that he is the President of a powerful and influential country, but we aren't stupid enough to believe that he is better than any other politician. And yes we hate Bush with an unfathomable level of loathing.lowing wrote:
So, Europe does not care about or love Obama, (no proof of that), they just hate Bush. THis is the story you wanna stick with?
hiBertster7 wrote:
The only time it would make sense not to vote is if you hated each faction equally.
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You said you voted for Obama