BF2S Forums Anti-Israeli sentiment really just latent antisemitism?

Mekstizzle wrote:

It's hard to see how you would get a Jew without actually tracing their ancestry to the Middle East. I'm no expert on Judaism, but they don't exactly go out to convert people to their religion. It's been a sort of exclusive club, saying that when they fucked off majority to Europe and the rest of the Middle East they did mix with alot of the population. And you probably do have Jews with no ancestry going back to the original Jews. But I'd say looking at how Judaism works you're more likely to have people with ancestry than without.

Meh, who cares. It's not like the Palestinians are any more native than the Jews. That whole area has always been controlled by different people of different ethnic groups and religions.

im getting confused, lol. There's stuff written suggesting that European jews were originally khazars who originated above todays Georgia. They later converted to Judaism

rammunition wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

It's hard to see how you would get a Jew without actually tracing their ancestry to the Middle East. I'm no expert on Judaism, but they don't exactly go out to convert people to their religion. It's been a sort of exclusive club, saying that when they fucked off majority to Europe and the rest of the Middle East they did mix with alot of the population. And you probably do have Jews with no ancestry going back to the original Jews. But I'd say looking at how Judaism works you're more likely to have people with ancestry than without.

Meh, who cares. It's not like the Palestinians are any more native than the Jews. That whole area has always been controlled by different people of different ethnic groups and religions.

im getting confused, lol. There's stuff written suggesting that European jews were originally khazars who originated above todays Georgia. They later converted to Judaism

It's hard to believe that tbh. Most of them left for other places outside of the traditional Israel zone they spread all around Europe and the known World. It's hard to believe that all of specifically European Jews originated from a single ethnic group near Georgia who simply converted to Judaism and then spread around Europe. None of that makes much sense tbh. It's some far out thinking.

I mean, that could be the case for some Jews who trace their ancestry back to these people who mysteriously converted to Judaism, but to say that for all European Jews is abit far out there. You can even tell with alot of European Jews by just looking at them that they have Jewish blood in them. I mean, not in any racist way at all. Just saying. For me, if someone is Jewish then there is a high chance of them being able to trace their roots back to the original areas. That's how I see it.

heres a quote

"In a book "Last sigh of Moor" published in 1995, the dark skinned Indoeuropean antireligious writer Salman Rushdie claims that according to Indian history books, first Jewish refugees, which in Antiquity have set their settlements in India, after Nabuchodonozor conquered their land in the 6th century BC, were... dark skinned, probably of NEGROIDAL RACE. (Remember that Moses had wife from the Medianite tribe, from the country of volcanos, which corresponds to Ethiopia of today.)

According to Salman Rushdie the second wave of Jewish emigration to India, after the destruction of Israel by Romans in 1-2nd century, consisted of WHITE JEWS. The third wave of Jewish emigration to India, which occured after 1482, when Queen Izabelle have thrown Jews out of Spain, arrived and settled at Cochin peninsula in Southern India, where was the capital of organized by vice-King Vasco da Gama Portuguese colony. According to the late 19 century Larousse Encyclopedia, Jews from the tropical Conchin were the most dark skinned Jews known at that time. Salman Rushdie claims that nearly all Jews from Conchin emigrated to Israel in the second half of 20 century"

rammunition wrote:

heres a quote

"In a book "Last sigh of Moor" published in 1995, the dark skinned Indoeuropean antireligious writer Salman Rushdie claims that according to Indian history books, first Jewish refugees, which in Antiquity have set their settlements in India, after Nabuchodonozor conquered their land in the 6th century BC, were... dark skinned, probably of NEGROIDAL RACE. (Remember that Moses had wife from the Medianite tribe, from the country of volcanos, which corresponds to Ethiopia of today.)

According to Salman Rushdie the second wave of Jewish emigration to India, after the destruction of Israel by Romans in 1-2nd century, consisted of WHITE JEWS. The third wave of Jewish emigration to India, which occured after 1482, when Queen Izabelle have thrown Jews out of Spain, arrived and settled at Cochin peninsula in Southern India, where was the capital of organized by vice-King Vasco da Gama Portuguese colony. According to the late 19 century Larousse Encyclopedia, Jews from the tropical Conchin were the most dark skinned Jews known at that time. Salman Rushdie claims that nearly all Jews from Conchin emigrated to Israel in the second half of 20 century"

So what's your point?

The west cares more about the Israel/Palestine issue than most others because we caused it, and continue to have a very significant influence on the situation. In general the west has far less responsability for causing, for example, the Darfur conflict, hence we look at the results of our own actions and situations where we have direct, significant influence first as we share responsability for them and can have a reasonably sensible and significant influence over resolving them.