Dilbert_X
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I blame Bush.
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Nope I back up my opinions.
Just not in BF2S

I can hardly prove a negative Dilbert.
Of course you could, if it were true.
You can't because its not.

Protip: If you can't prove something don't jump down someones keyboard when they dispute it, or you'll look like a total ass.
The only protip you can offer is how to abandon a thread
Dilbert_X
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So basically, you can't back up your argument and want to walk away.
Isn't that what you bitch at everyone else for?

BTW if you think someone who has $10k+ in investments is 'pretty damned well off even for middle class standards' then its not really worth discussing.
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Pug wrote:

So to sum up, it's wrong to be rich.  If you earn a few million dollars, you do not have the right to spend it the way you feel fit, because you didn't earn it?

Oh, unless you're an actor.  Then it's okay.

And Madoff is the guy we are going to use to show how most people get rich?
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So basically, you can't back up your argument and want to walk away.
Isn't that what you bitch at everyone else for?

BTW if you think someone who has $10k+ in investments is 'pretty damned well off even for middle class standards' then its not really worth discussing.
I looked I could not find where poor people were stolen from, by Madoff. SO basically I can't BACK UP YOUR argument, now I bow to you, it is the claim you defend, show me where this happened.

Also, it was 100k not 10k.

Last edited by lowing (2009-10-07 03:38:44)

Dilbert_X
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lowing wrote:

I looked I could not find where poor people were stolen from, by Madoff. SO basically I can't BACK UP YOUR argument, now I bow to you, it is the claim you defend, show me where this happened.
Wrong, again, you made the assertion Madoff only stole from rich people, you can't back it up - there's the problem.
Anyway, you fail at google.

Pretty sure this guy isn't rich.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7939561.stm
Many of Madoff's victims were not multimillionaires but normal working people, said Mark Raymond, of law firm Broad and Cassel.
One alleged victim was a New York plumber who earned up to $60,000 a year, he said.
Mr Madoff had invited the plumber to join his investment scheme because he saved his son's life.

"His son and Mr Madoff's son were swimming off Long Island and he [the plumber] saved him from drowning," Mr Raymond said.
"The reward was being invited to participate [ in the Madoff scheme]."
The plumber had now lost his life savings of $100,000.
Pretty sure the average carpenter, plumber or roofer isn't super wealthy either.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/f … 46eQEc11fL

lowing wrote:

Also, it was 100k not 10k.
Incorrect again.

lowing wrote:

After I looked, all I could find is people who lost at least 10's of thousands of dollars to him. These people are hardly poor, and pretty damned well off even for middle class standards.
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

I looked I could not find where poor people were stolen from, by Madoff. SO basically I can't BACK UP YOUR argument, now I bow to you, it is the claim you defend, show me where this happened.
Wrong, again, you made the assertion Madoff only stole from rich people, you can't back it up - there's the problem.
Anyway, you fail at google.

Pretty sure this guy isn't rich.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7939561.stm
Many of Madoff's victims were not multimillionaires but normal working people, said Mark Raymond, of law firm Broad and Cassel.
One alleged victim was a New York plumber who earned up to $60,000 a year, he said.
Mr Madoff had invited the plumber to join his investment scheme because he saved his son's life.

"His son and Mr Madoff's son were swimming off Long Island and he [the plumber] saved him from drowning," Mr Raymond said.
"The reward was being invited to participate [ in the Madoff scheme]."
The plumber had now lost his life savings of $100,000.
Pretty sure the average carpenter, plumber or roofer isn't super wealthy either.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/f … 46eQEc11fL

lowing wrote:

Also, it was 100k not 10k.
Incorrect again.

lowing wrote:

After I looked, all I could find is people who lost at least 10's of thousands of dollars to him. These people are hardly poor, and pretty damned well off even for middle class standards.
Working class people are NOT POOR people.

Someone mentioned a guy that lost 100K that is what I was referring. Again 10's of thousands STILL is not poor people money
Dilbert_X
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Madoff clearly wouldn't have stolen money from people who didn't actually have any money would he lowing?
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Madoff clearly wouldn't have stolen money from people who didn't actually have any money would he lowing?
I see, so now we are gunna resort to what he WOULD HAVE done, and not what he did. Clever twist Dilbert.

but yes poor people USUALLY don't have 10 or 100k in their accounts, but if they did and they were poor, Madoff would have taken it.

Last edited by lowing (2009-10-07 09:56:21)

Dilbert_X
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10k in cash or 100k in life savings is fairly poor by most definitions.
Plumbers, roofers, carpenters etc are usually fairly low in the social hierarchy.

Your statement was wrong, why can't you just admit it?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-10-07 15:49:08)

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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

10k in cash or 100k in life savings is fairly poor by most definitions.
Plumbers, roofers, carpenters etc are usually fairly low in the social hierarchy.

Your statement was wrong, why can't you just admit it?
Because my statement was not wrong. He did steal from the rich and not the poor. You say he stole from the poor, I can not find anythnig where this is true, so again, if this true, I need you to show me. It is after all your claim.

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