Jay
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+2,006|5645|London, England
I found this article to be interesting:
From wheelchairs and walkers to orthopedic shoes and needles, Medicare buys tens of thousands of products every day for elderly Americans. And as the single largest buyer of medical products, you'd think it would at leastget a volume discount.

But it doesn't. In fact, Medicare doesn't even get the best price.

According to their own auditors, Medicare knowingly overpays for almost everything it buys. Examples include:

-- $7,215 to rent an oxygen concentrator, when the purchase price is $600.

-- $4,018 for a standard wheelchair, while the private sector pays $1,048.

-- $1,825 for a hospital bed, compared to an Internet price of $1,071.

-- $3,335 for a respiratory pump, versus an advertised price of $1,987.

-- $82 for a diabetic supply kit, instead of a $47 price on the Web.

Last year, the Health and Human Services Department tried to replace its archaic fixed-price fee schedule for 10 commonly purchased products with a competitive bidding program in 10 cities. The department said the program could save Medicare $125 million in a single year, or $1 billion if adopted nationwide. But Congress stepped in to stop it.

"There were products that we had as much as 75 percent savings. The average was 29 percent," said Mike Leavitt, the former HHS secretary who oversaw the program.

"It would have saved billions if we could've actually implemented it, but Congress deferred it. In Washington speak, that means we put it off forever," he said.

Leavitt blames Congressmen Pete Stark (D-Calif.) and Dave Camp (R-Mich.) for introducing legislation that terminated the contracts and postponed the program for 18 months. Leavitt says the congressional intervention helps explain why many are suspicious of claims that Washington can cut enough waste to actually pay for health care reform, as President Obama told a joint session of Congress last month.

"Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan," Leavitt said.

"The problem here is one man's waste is another man's living, and whenever there is an effort put forward to actually make an efficiency, someone goes on the offensive and hires lobbyists and does what they can to constrain Congress from doing it," Leavitt said.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the health care industry is currently spending $2 million a day lobbying Congress. Leavitt's pilot program died after small business suppliers claimed it would have put them out of business. Eventually, industry agreed to help pay the cost of terminated contracts that Medicare had already negotiated.

Industry officials argued the new system would unfairly disqualify some suppliers, and others with little experience would get the business, causing a decline in quality and service.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10 … are-waste/
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Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6281|Truthistan
Yes
Just watch some commercials

"hover round hover round... We bill medicare... no cost to you!!!!!"

That's the main problem when the govt pays... the greedy businesses gouge the taxpayers.
ATG
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This is the problem with everything the government does.
Waste.
Fraud.
Incompetence.


Fuck 'em all.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6393|eXtreme to the maX

ATG wrote:

This is the problem with everything the government does.
Waste.
Fraud.
Incompetence.


Fuck 'em all.
Is it the problem with govt or with companies ripping them off?

Make charging govt more than a commercial rate a federal crime.

Bear in mind also there are many hidden costs built into supplying govt.
Fuck Israel
ATG
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The govs purchasing agents lets the contracts to those who greases him/her palms with cash, and that's why costs get so out of whack.
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|7004|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

Dilbert_X wrote:

ATG wrote:

This is the problem with everything the government does.
Waste.
Fraud.
Incompetence.


Fuck 'em all.
Is it the problem with govt or with companies ripping them off?

Make charging govt more than a commercial rate a federal crime.

Bear in mind also there are many hidden costs built into supplying govt.
Unfortunately, this is more or less completely the government's fault, and I'm kind of surprised the subject was mentioned but not explained at all in the article.

Under the current medicare/medicaid laws, if you make a product or preform a procedure on a medicare/aid qualified person, you get paid the same amount no matter how much the particular product or procedure actually cost.  For example, if a you preform heart surgery on a medicare/aid patient, you send a notice to the government stating what you did and a request for reimbursement.  The government then takes that notice and, no matter how much or little it cost to preform the surgery, the government sends you the same amount they would have sent anyone else who preformed that surgery.  If the amount is greater than what it cost, you keep the extra, if it's less, you eat the loss.  This system applies to medical products as well.  If you can produce something for less than the government is paying, the extra cash is a profit, the companies that actually produce the medical items have pretty much no say in what they get paid after the fixed-price schedule is implemented.  Basically, the government is charging itself more than the commercial rate for all of these products.

From the looks of the article, the problem is corrupt politicians, as the Health and Human Services Department did try to do something about it, but was stopped by congress.  At the very least, the price schedule needs to be reviewed because, from the difference in prices on the list, the currently used list is probably 10 or more years out of date.

Last edited by mcgid1 (2009-10-05 23:18:49)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6698|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

ATG wrote:

This is the problem with everything the government does.
Waste.
Fraud.
Incompetence.


Fuck 'em all.
Is it the problem with govt or with companies ripping them off?

Make charging govt more than a commercial rate a federal crime.

Bear in mind also there are many hidden costs built into supplying govt.
The problem is with the government. Period.

The rate schedule is determined by the government, not the companies involved.

It is insane to even consider letting those buffoons try to run our healthcare...when those who would run it (HHS) aren't even allowed to implement cost-saving measures on simple equipment purchasing contracts.
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ghettoperson
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We don't have this issue in countries where our politicians aren't quite as corrupt. Disgusting that this is allowed to happen.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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FEOS wrote:

The rate schedule is determined by the government, not the companies involved.
Then thats daft and I agree they shouldn't be responsible for a burger joint.
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