I didn't make the original assertion you muppet.lowing wrote:
don't you guys ever get sick of not being able to back up your arguments. I mean if you ain't got, racism, bigotry, selfishness, or personal attacks etc. to argue a point you really don't have shit, and if those are all you have, you really don't have shit.
See, you did - back it up, or you don't have shit.lowing wrote:
Maddoff stole from rich people not poor people.
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Umm, there were quite a few working/middle class people who had given him their entire life savings to invest. They've lost everything.Dilbert_X wrote:
See, you did - back it up, or you don't have shit.lowing wrote:
Maddoff stole from rich people not poor people.
Not in lowing world apparently.Umm, there were quite a few working/middle class people who had given him their entire life savings to invest. They've lost everything.
lol no actually it is notnlsme1 wrote:
Where is your source? I know for a fact he did not only steal from the rich. Disprove me. Thats how this works.
Dilbert, you have backed out of so many threads lately you are hardly one to start acting so smug and superior, so please give it a rest. anyway, you qualify for my statement probably more than anyone else in this forum, if not in this thread, just about every other one.Dilbert_X wrote:
I didn't make the original assertion you muppet.lowing wrote:
don't you guys ever get sick of not being able to back up your arguments. I mean if you ain't got, racism, bigotry, selfishness, or personal attacks etc. to argue a point you really don't have shit, and if those are all you have, you really don't have shit.See, you did - back it up, or you don't have shit.lowing wrote:
Maddoff stole from rich people not poor people.
You said he only stole from the rich. Now middle class are rich? Beside the point he sole from charities. Who really lost the money there?lowing wrote:
Dilbert, you have backed out of so many threads lately you are hardly one to start acting so smug and superior, so please give it a rest. anyway, you qualify for my statement probably more than anyone else in this forum, if not in this thread, just about every other one.Dilbert_X wrote:
I didn't make the original assertion you muppet.lowing wrote:
don't you guys ever get sick of not being able to back up your arguments. I mean if you ain't got, racism, bigotry, selfishness, or personal attacks etc. to argue a point you really don't have shit, and if those are all you have, you really don't have shit.See, you did - back it up, or you don't have shit.lowing wrote:
Maddoff stole from rich people not poor people.
Someone already posted the list, and yes some middle class people gave up their life savings to him, are we now calling the middle class poor all of a sudden?
No I said he stole from the rich, I never said he ONLY stole from the rich. You claimed he stole from poor people, I asked you to link that fact, you did not. After I looked, all I could find is people who lost at least 10's of thousands of dollars to him. These people are hardly poor, and pretty damned well off even for middle class standards.nlsme1 wrote:
You said he only stole from the rich. Now middle class are rich? Beside the point he sole from charities. Who really lost the money there?lowing wrote:
Dilbert, you have backed out of so many threads lately you are hardly one to start acting so smug and superior, so please give it a rest. anyway, you qualify for my statement probably more than anyone else in this forum, if not in this thread, just about every other one.Dilbert_X wrote:
I didn't make the original assertion you muppet.lowing wrote:
don't you guys ever get sick of not being able to back up your arguments. I mean if you ain't got, racism, bigotry, selfishness, or personal attacks etc. to argue a point you really don't have shit, and if those are all you have, you really don't have shit.
See, you did - back it up, or you don't have shit.
Someone already posted the list, and yes some middle class people gave up their life savings to him, are we now calling the middle class poor all of a sudden?
No I implied he did not steal from the poor. Poor people do not have retirements worth stealing. I asked for links from you t oback up your claim he stole from poor people, are you going to provide them or not?nlsme1 wrote:
Lowing, who really lost from the charities?
He wiped out peoples entire retirements. You spoke out of your ass and it shows.
And the way you phrazed it, in the context of the thread, you did in fact imply he only stole from the rich.
Someone should be able to justify it for it to be considered "earned". Since when is someone being punished by paying taxes?lowing wrote:
I don't have to justify it, and who exactly are you to say who justifies it? They are already taxed at a higher rate, the issue is punishing them even more, not for the functions of govt. but to redistribute their wealth to others who did not earn it.nlsme1 wrote:
How can you justify making $57,000 a fucking hour as "EARNING" it? Damn right they should be taxed at a higher rate. BTW, the 57 grand is what the CEO of Humana averaged last year. The PRIVATE healh insurance company under investigation for sending scare letters to seniors.lowing wrote:
Excess earnings??!! Who the hell do you think you are to decide whose income is exessive and should therefore be taken from him. Please note you yourself called it "EARNINGS", meaning they EARNED it. Fuckin' liberals.
I ask you for links that he stole from nobody making more then, say, 20 grand.lowing wrote:
No I implied he did not steal from the poor. Poor people do not have retirements worth stealing. I asked for links from you t oback up your claim he stole from poor people, are you going to provide them or not?nlsme1 wrote:
Lowing, who really lost from the charities?
He wiped out peoples entire retirements. You spoke out of your ass and it shows.
And the way you phrazed it, in the context of the thread, you did in fact imply he only stole from the rich.
And you just blabber your opinion with no evidence behind it.lowing wrote:
Dilbert, you have backed out of so many threads lately you are hardly one to start acting so smug and superior, so please give it a rest. anyway, you qualify for my statement probably more than anyone else in this forum, if not in this thread, just about every other one.
THere you go again, It is well docuamented that he stole from the rich. You claim he stole from the poor, show it to me.nlsme1 wrote:
I ask you for links that he stole from nobody making more then, say, 20 grand.lowing wrote:
No I implied he did not steal from the poor. Poor people do not have retirements worth stealing. I asked for links from you t oback up your claim he stole from poor people, are you going to provide them or not?nlsme1 wrote:
Lowing, who really lost from the charities?
He wiped out peoples entire retirements. You spoke out of your ass and it shows.
And the way you phrazed it, in the context of the thread, you did in fact imply he only stole from the rich.
Answer me this, who really loses when a charity is robbed?
Nope I back up my opinions.Dilbert_X wrote:
And you just blabber your opinion with no evidence behind it.lowing wrote:
Dilbert, you have backed out of so many threads lately you are hardly one to start acting so smug and superior, so please give it a rest. anyway, you qualify for my statement probably more than anyone else in this forum, if not in this thread, just about every other one.
You stated Madof did not steal from poor people.
Prove it.
And that hurts them more then the people who now get nothing? And this wasn't the children's network. Carities that get a million dollars from one person. The "administrative fees" from jewish philanthropy is nill. Sry to burst that bubble. It is just as well documented that he stole stole from the poor. The rich just get more media attention from it.lowing wrote:
THere you go again, It is well docuamented that he stole from the rich. You claim he stole from the poor, show it to me.nlsme1 wrote:
I ask you for links that he stole from nobody making more then, say, 20 grand.lowing wrote:
No I implied he did not steal from the poor. Poor people do not have retirements worth stealing. I asked for links from you t oback up your claim he stole from poor people, are you going to provide them or not?
Answer me this, who really loses when a charity is robbed?
Who loses? THe fat cats skimming the charities. Ya know the people who take 70 cents of every dollar for "administrative fees"
Just not in BF2Slowing wrote:
Nope I back up my opinions.
Of course you could, if it were true.I can hardly prove a negative Dilbert.
This happened in my neck of the woods and it was in the papers every day for a long time. There was a story in the New York Post about a janitor who worked all his life and invested his savings with Madoff for his retirement. He 'only' lost about $100k, but it was the mans entire life savings.Dilbert_X wrote:
And you just blabber your opinion with no evidence behind it.lowing wrote:
Dilbert, you have backed out of so many threads lately you are hardly one to start acting so smug and superior, so please give it a rest. anyway, you qualify for my statement probably more than anyone else in this forum, if not in this thread, just about every other one.
You stated Madof did not steal from poor people.
Prove it.
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Not the point and you know itDilbert_X wrote:
100k is nothing in pension terms.
