Military may lift ban on women in submarines

2009-09-30 19:02:50

#1

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6835|San Diego, CA, USA

Yahoo News wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Top Pentagon officials are calling for an end to the U.S. military's historical ban on allowing women to serve in submarines.

Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the top U.S. military officer, advocated the policy change in written congressional testimony distributed by his office to reporters on Friday.

"I believe we should continue to broaden opportunities for women. One policy I would like to see changed is the one barring (women's) service aboard submarines," Mullen said.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said he was "moving out aggressively on this."

"I am very comfortable addressing integrating women into the submarine force," Admiral Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, said in a statement.

Women account for about 15 percent of the more than 336,000 members of the U.S. Navy and can serve on its surface ships. But critics have argued that submarines are different, pointing to cramped quarters where some crews share beds in shifts.

Nancy Duff Campbell, an advocate for expanding the role of women in the U.S. armed forces, said it would be easy to resolve problems associated with so-called "hot-bunking."

I wonder if this will help with morale? Also what do you do when unsea and a woman get's pregnant? Do you scrub the mission that can go for months?

2009-09-30 19:05:11

#2

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5873

Harmor wrote:
Military may lift ban on women in submarines

Yahoo News wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Top Pentagon officials are calling for an end to the U.S. military's historical ban on allowing women to serve in submarines.

Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the top U.S. military officer, advocated the policy change in written congressional testimony distributed by his office to reporters on Friday.

"I believe we should continue to broaden opportunities for women. One policy I would like to see changed is the one barring (women's) service aboard submarines," Mullen said.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said he was "moving out aggressively on this."

"I am very comfortable addressing integrating women into the submarine force," Admiral Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, said in a statement.

Women account for about 15 percent of the more than 336,000 members of the U.S. Navy and can serve on its surface ships. But critics have argued that submarines are different, pointing to cramped quarters where some crews share beds in shifts.

Nancy Duff Campbell, an advocate for expanding the role of women in the U.S. armed forces, said it would be easy to resolve problems associated with so-called "hot-bunking."
I wonder if this will help with morale? Also what do you do when unsea and a woman get's pregnant? Do you scrub the mission that can go for months?

Birth Control.

2009-09-30 19:05:47

#3

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6440|what

"Women and Sea Men don't mix." - Smithers

2009-09-30 19:25:03

#4

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6805|Montucky

it'll work untill the womens start getting raped and pregnant.

2009-09-30 19:27:42

#5

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5645|London, England

S3v3N wrote:
it'll work untill the womens start getting raped and pregnant.

Six months is a long time to spend confined underwater...

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-30 19:29:33

#6

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6805|Montucky

JohnG@lt wrote:
S3v3N wrote:
it'll work untill the womens start getting raped and pregnant.
Six months is a long time to spend confined underwater...

Exactly.

its another case of "The Girls want to do this", untill they find out close quarters in Submarines eats testicles.

2009-09-30 19:31:20

#7

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7062|Noizyland

Can we still use the "long and hard and full of seamen" joke?

Anyway, if women want to be in close, cramped quarters with a bunch of men then more power to 'em.

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2009-09-30 19:56:50

#8

VspyVspy: Sniper; +183|6960|A sunburnt country

Meh, women have been serving on Aussie submarines for years, it's no big deal.

2009-09-30 19:58:29

#9

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6835|San Diego, CA, USA

VspyVspy wrote:
Meh, women have been serving on Aussie submarines for years, it's no big deal.

Australia has submarines?

2009-09-30 20:03:08

#10

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5645|London, England

Harmor wrote:
VspyVspy wrote:
Meh, women have been serving on Aussie submarines for years, it's no big deal.
Australia has submarines?

https://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/yellow_submarine.jpg

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-30 20:04:18

#11

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6755

JohnG@lt wrote:
Harmor wrote:
VspyVspy wrote:
Meh, women have been serving on Aussie submarines for years, it's no big deal.
Australia has submarines?
http://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com … marine.jpg

Beatles were British...

2009-09-30 20:05:07

#12

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5645|London, England

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Harmor wrote:

Australia has submarines?
http://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com … marine.jpg
Beatles were British...

I'm aware It fit and you know the timing was fantastic

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-30 20:09:34

#13

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|6932

I'll imitate IG's responce "Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me" lol

2009-09-30 21:06:49

#14

LividBovine: The Year of the Cow!; +175|6667|MN

Speaking as a former bubblehead. I do not think this is a good idea. Yes, I know they can make it work, but it does not make sense. We had 2 "heads" for 120 "seamen", now that is a lot of "seamen" to fit into a couple small "heads". I don't think we could possibly fit that many "seamen" into 1 "head".

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)

2009-09-30 21:10:31

#15

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6732|The Land of Scott Walker

Don't worry, LB, we taxpayers will pay to retrofit each and every sub, adding a head for the ladies. You know, progress, rights, equality, all that jazz.

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2009-09-30 21:31:13

#16

LividBovine: The Year of the Cow!; +175|6667|MN

Stingray24 wrote:
Don't worry, LB, we taxpayers will pay to retrofit each and every sub, adding a head for the ladies. You know, progress, rights, equality, all that jazz.

I know. Makes me almost weep.

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)

2009-09-30 21:51:22

#17

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6968|Disaster Free Zone

S3v3N wrote:
it'll work untill the womens start getting raped and pregnant.

You have the wrong kind of people in your military then.

2009-09-30 21:52:17

#18

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6855|Mountains of NC

yeah it would never happen anywhere else

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2009-09-30 22:14:34

#19

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6968|Disaster Free Zone

Norway opened up every function in the armed forces to women in 1985, making the Royal Norwegian Navy the first navy to allow female crew. The Royal Danish Navy conducted trials with mixed gender crews in 1985 and 1987, making no alterations to the sub, and allowed for female submariners in 1988. The Swedish Navy made the change in 1989. The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) began to allow female personnel in 1998 and thereafter Canadian Navy in 2002. Germany, Spain and Portugal also allow for females on all military functions, including submarines.

In 1995, Solveig Krey of the Royal Norwegian Navy became the first female officer to assume command on a submarine, the HNoMS Kobben.

I've yet to hear of any rape cases and from a quick google search I also found nothing. So no it doesn't happen any where else.

2009-09-30 22:47:01