Harmor
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+605|6836|San Diego, CA, USA
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/09/11/texas. … index.html

I guess the economy are making more and more school districts make these kind of decisions.  If the kids are American citizens but don't live the school district should they still be able to be taught?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6692|North Carolina
Yep, if they aren't citizens or aren't here legally, they can get the fuck out.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6734|Chicago, IL
they don't pay property taxes into the school coffers, so no
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6983|NJ

S.Lythberg wrote:

they don't pay property taxes into the school coffers, so no
Seriously Kids From Newark can't drive out to Randolph for a better education.
Ghandi767
Member
+17|6909|Hanging in the Balance
No. You go to school in the district you live in.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6698|'Murka

The kids' parents falsified documents so their kids could attend school. In a district/county/state/country of which they are neither a resident nor citizen. They pay no taxes to support the district.

I'm wondering why it took the district that long to address it.
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DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6968|Disaster Free Zone
School districts are stupid. Should be no restrictions on where you go to school.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7003

DrunkFace wrote:

School districts are stupid. Should be no restrictions on where you go to school.
Word.

It's a further segregation between the rich and poor.

If the kid is a citizen then let him attend the school by all means. What happened to America being give me your hungry and poor?
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Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5873

School districts exist for a bunch of reasons.

It's easier to keep track of students, funding purposes, track academic productivity, culture relations and on and on.

And yes it often does separate rich from poor but hell could you really blame the rich?
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6667|MN
If you are a citizen of the US, or here legally and paying taxes, school is for you.  If you are here illegally, go home. 

I think students should be allowed to go to whatever school (read: public school) their parents/guardians want to send them to.  The parents/guardians are reponsable for logistics beyond the schools normal range.  There should also be notice period, parents/guardians should not be able to transfer their children on a whim.  The schools need time to transfer funding and plan classes to meet student densities.

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Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6436|'straya

Macbeth wrote:

School districts exist for a bunch of reasons.

It's easier to keep track of students, funding purposes, track academic productivity, culture relations and on and on.

And yes it often does separate rich from poor but hell could you really blame the rich?
Not having school districts seems to work all around the world....

Personally I think the idea of school districts is stupid, if they are a citizen etc I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to go to the school.
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6667|MN
I don't think they need to track students and their performance.  The parents will do that.  If a school in the area has good reputation, the parents will move their kids there.  If a school has very few kids relatively, they must be the bad school.  Easy to sort out really.  This whole NCLB thing has gotta go.
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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7003

Macbeth wrote:

School districts exist for a bunch of reasons.

It's easier to keep track of students, funding purposes, track academic productivity, culture relations and on and on.

And yes it often does separate rich from poor but hell could you really blame the rich?
Not exactly blaming the rich for anything, but blaming the government for allowing segregation. Think of where a poor public school district has outdated materials while a rich school district is going to build gym.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS
Hang on, what?

I would've thought that in order to attend a school in a country you had to, y'know, live in the country.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7003

Spark wrote:

Hang on, what?

I would've thought that in order to attend a school in a country you had to, y'know, live in the country.
Parents aren't residence in the US (Illegals), but the child was born on American soil, making him/her an American citizen, but parents aren't legal residence in the States.
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5645|London, England
A) School districts are propped up by local property taxes in their district. Very little comes from the State or Federal.
B) School districts are required by law to provide K-12 education for all children residing in their district.
C) While some of you may think it is inherently unfair that rich districts have more funds than poor this is a perfect reason for you to support vouchers and charter schools instead of blindly voting (D) every election. The Democrats are in bed with the Teachers Union. The Teachers Union has a vested interest in being the only racket in town. Hence it's extremely difficult to get approval to start a charter school.
D) If you don't like that answer then how about you get a better paying job and move to a better school district instead of bitching on an internet forum about how life is so unfair. If your life sucks it's because you suck.
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13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6785

JohnG@lt wrote:

A) School districts are propped up by local property taxes in their district. Very little comes from the State or Federal.
i own a house, but have no children. why should i pay property tax to fund schools?

"The Democrats are in bed with the Teachers Union. "

i live in a 'right to work' state. afaik, there isn't a teacher's union here. there are charter schools, my sister's a principal at one of them.

as far as the OP?

FEOS wrote:

I'm wondering why it took the district that long to address it.
Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6281|Truthistan

JohnG@lt wrote:

C) While some of you may think it is inherently unfair that rich districts have more funds than poor this is a perfect reason for you to support vouchers and charter schools instead of blindly voting (D) every election. The Democrats are in bed with the Teachers Union. The Teachers Union has a vested interest in being the only racket in town. Hence it's extremely difficult to get approval to start a charter school.
Rich district versus poor districts, this was the folly of the SCOTUS in Brown v. Board. The education issue would have been better handled if the court would have requried all funding be equal and achieved that by requiring state govt funding on a per child basis, instead of local taxation. Instead of stupid busing.

Nevertheless, the way it stands now if you don't live in the district then you should have wait to see if there is room in the class and pay tuition. There should be no freeloaders. You can't live outside the borders to save on taxes and then try to freeload on services, I believe that's called fraud.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6692|North Carolina

Cybargs wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

School districts are stupid. Should be no restrictions on where you go to school.
Word.

It's a further segregation between the rich and poor.

If the kid is a citizen then let him attend the school by all means. What happened to America being give me your hungry and poor?
You do realize we're talking about Mexican students going to an American school, right?  Your argument might be valid concerning citizens of the same city/country, but it isn't when talking about non-citizens.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6692|North Carolina

Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:

Hang on, what?

I would've thought that in order to attend a school in a country you had to, y'know, live in the country.
Parents aren't residence in the US (Illegals), but the child was born on American soil, making him/her an American citizen, but parents aren't legal residence in the States.
Not always.  If the parents can't prove residency, that means that the kids may or may not have been born here.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7023|Salt Lake City

Turquoise wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:

Hang on, what?

I would've thought that in order to attend a school in a country you had to, y'know, live in the country.
Parents aren't residence in the US (Illegals), but the child was born on American soil, making him/her an American citizen, but parents aren't legal residence in the States.
Not always.  If the parents can't prove residency, that means that the kids may or may not have been born here.
The article actually stated that it wasn't about their status as legal or illegal, only about residency.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6972|United States of America
As it has been said, it's the locals who fund the schools, so of course the more affluent areas will have more $$$ to put into the education of the children in that area. The school system in my hometown began cracking down on people who didn't live in the town trying to enroll in any level since it's pretty much one of the best in the region, but it all comes down to dollars and cents. Sad truth that the poorer places can't afford all the luxuries of a richer area, but it's how life is.
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5687
just teach them to pick fruit and cut lawns
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6698|'Murka

Red Forman wrote:

just teach them to pick fruit and cut lawns
Don't need to teach that...it's genetic.

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6692|North Carolina

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


Parents aren't residence in the US (Illegals), but the child was born on American soil, making him/her an American citizen, but parents aren't legal residence in the States.
Not always.  If the parents can't prove residency, that means that the kids may or may not have been born here.
The article actually stated that it wasn't about their status as legal or illegal, only about residency.
Yes, but their residency is in Mexico, so that means that they can't go to schools here in a legal sense.

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