Holy Fire

2009-08-31 21:03:47

#26

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6816|Global Command

And props to the derdevil pilots;

Imagine racing down a canyon towards the terminal wall. Just before impact you release your five thousand gallons of water, which causes your heli to soar, you pivot on the tail rotor and race back for more water.

The men on the line pack 35 pounds of protection gear, excluding shovels or water filled back packs and charge upslope like seige breakers in medival trench warefare. There are few harder men.

My respects $3V3N.

2009-08-31 22:04:38

#27

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6805|Montucky

mtb0minime wrote:
Fire is bad and all, but I saw the massive puffy mushroom cloud this afternoon and thought, "Wow, that looks beautiful." Dead serious. It was pretty

Oh, and since Seven is a firefighter, I've got a question: What do you guys think of the people who ignore evacuation warnings, then come calling later saying they want to be rescued?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 … anyon.html
I'm betting (and hoping) it's something along the lines of, "Fuck them. Idiots." That's my stance at least.

I have mixed feelings...

However while on duty, if its feesable without risking the life of other firefighters then yes.

I hate to say it, but the men and women that i'm in charge of are more valuable to me then the retards that refuse evacuation. However I have yet to deal wth the situation of the defending homeowner that says he/she will stay. Up here in Montucky its a different type of people. (We) say you need to leave, they'll ask if we can help gather up some personal belongings to aid them in leaving. Which we are glad to do.

2009-08-31 22:15:16

#28

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6805|Montucky

Last Year, we stopped it 4 miles from City Limits.

spent two weeks in our BLM Helitac Huey doing spotting. It was ASWM.

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2009-08-31 22:18:29

#29

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5989|College Park, MD

Kmarion wrote:

That second to last one looks like LA was hit by a damned nuke

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg

2009-09-01 04:03:20

#30

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6962|Canberra, AUS

Mad props to any volunteer firefighters out there.

Awesome to see that this great tradition is upheld across the Pacific as well.

BTW Reaper... some places here do have conifers, like about 2km west of where I sit now. Part of the reason our back fence got smoulder'd. At least in America they don't get exploding trees...

Those pictures give me the chills, btw. All too familiar - especially the first one. Will never forget how dark the sky got at 4pm in the middle of summer...

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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-09-01 05:21:15

#31

mr.hrundi: Wurstwassereis; +68|6724|Germany

Now don't get me wrong, I think it's a sad thing that people are losing their possessions and sometimes even their lives.

But on the other hand, aren't the people that live there responsible for the fires that become worse every year? Naturally, there would be fires there every year, which is - mostly - a good thing. Some plants need fire to set their seeds free and burned stuff on the ground makes it more fertile. The forest renews itself and makes sure it's only as big as it can be.
Now with humans, they want to keep their property safe. By doing this, they make sure less trees burn than naturally should, which leaves more flammable material every year - the fires keep getting worse.

I really think it's a fight man can't win...

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2009-09-01 07:23:09

#32

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6962|Canberra, AUS

mr.hrundi wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, I think it's a sad thing that people are losing their possessions and sometimes even their lives.

But on the other hand, aren't the people that live there responsible for the fires that become worse every year? Naturally, there would be fires there every year, which is - mostly - a good thing. Some plants need fire to set their seeds free and burned stuff on the ground makes it more fertile. The forest renews itself and makes sure it's only as big as it can be.
Now with humans, they want to keep their property safe. By doing this, they make sure less trees burn than naturally should, which leaves more flammable material every year - the fires keep getting worse.

I really think it's a fight man can't win...

That's what burning-off is for - reducing fuel loads by burning it during low-risk months when it builds up. 'Course, you have to be careful otherwise you could wind up in an awkward situation.

But some parts of the world will be fire prone regardless of circumstances. The entire south east part of this country is one place, California is another (similar climate if I'm not mistaken).

I wouldn't mind knowing what fire preparation techniques are given to the public in off-season over there, as well as how long the mandatory evacuation policy has been in place.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-09-01 08:01:44

#33

Lai: Member; +186|6438

Holy fire,..

Burn the heretic!

mtb0minime wrote:
Fire is bad and all, but I saw the massive puffy mushroom cloud this afternoon and thought, "Wow, that looks beautiful." Dead serious. It was pretty

It is. I've seen a couple of forest fire, sort of ran through one two years ago in Greece (about 42 people died). You know you're in da shit, but it is of an unmatched beauty.

2009-09-01 08:51:04

#34

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6908|London, England

Those fires eh, I think California has had worse these past few years though, but that second to last pic Kez posted, yeah it looks like a giant Eruption

2009-09-01 16:31:54

#35

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6816|Global Command

Spark wrote:
mr.hrundi wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, I think it's a sad thing that people are losing their possessions and sometimes even their lives.

But on the other hand, aren't the people that live there responsible for the fires that become worse every year? Naturally, there would be fires there every year, which is - mostly - a good thing. Some plants need fire to set their seeds free and burned stuff on the ground makes it more fertile. The forest renews itself and makes sure it's only as big as it can be.
Now with humans, they want to keep their property safe. By doing this, they make sure less trees burn than naturally should, which leaves more flammable material every year - the fires keep getting worse.

I really think it's a fight man can't win...
That's what burning-off is for - reducing fuel loads by burning it during low-risk months when it builds up. 'Course, you have to be careful otherwise you could wind up in an awkward situation.

But some parts of the world will be fire prone regardless of circumstances. The entire south east part of this country is one place, California is another (similar climate if I'm not mistaken).

I wouldn't mind knowing what fire preparation techniques are given to the public in off-season over there, as well as how long the mandatory evacuation policy has been in place.

There are clearance guides and suggestions, to keep brush back. There are new codes that require leaf protection on raingutters ( yippy me ) in new construction. Imagine a gutter full of dry leaves, right next to the roof line. It catches fire and the ventilation sucks the flames under the roof, which is designed to breathe.

The mandatory evacs are not mandatory. Right now there are some trapped who did leave when told to, requesting helicopter extraction and the authorities are like " ya well, tough shit, we told you to get the fuck out, lol "

2009-09-01 18:06:25

#36

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Full Resolution
Source: NASA:Earth observatory

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2009-09-01 18:40:39

#37

Narupug: Fodder Mostly; +150|5884|Vacationland

Too bad about the observatory, they were doing some awesome work up their

2009-09-01 19:28:40

#38

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Mount Wilson? aah that sux.

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2009-09-01 19:46:59

#39

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6615

ah the joys of desert living...

Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.

2009-09-01 23:27:09

#40

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6962|Canberra, AUS

ATG wrote:
Spark wrote:
mr.hrundi wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, I think it's a sad thing that people are losing their possessions and sometimes even their lives.

But on the other hand, aren't the people that live there responsible for the fires that become worse every year? Naturally, there would be fires there every year, which is - mostly - a good thing. Some plants need fire to set their seeds free and burned stuff on the ground makes it more fertile. The forest renews itself and makes sure it's only as big as it can be.
Now with humans, they want to keep their property safe. By doing this, they make sure less trees burn than naturally should, which leaves more flammable material every year - the fires keep getting worse.

I really think it's a fight man can't win...
That's what burning-off is for - reducing fuel loads by burning it during low-risk months when it builds up. 'Course, you have to be careful otherwise you could wind up in an awkward situation.

But some parts of the world will be fire prone regardless of circumstances. The entire south east part of this country is one place, California is another (similar climate if I'm not mistaken).

I wouldn't mind knowing what fire preparation techniques are given to the public in off-season over there, as well as how long the mandatory evacuation policy has been in place.
There are clearance guides and suggestions, to keep brush back. There are new codes that require leaf protection on raingutters ( yippy me ) in new construction. Imagine a gutter full of dry leaves, right next to the roof line. It catches fire and the ventilation sucks the flames under the roof, which is designed to breathe.

The mandatory evacs are not mandatory. Right now there are some trapped who did leave when told to, requesting helicopter extraction and the authorities are like " ya well, tough shit, we told you to get the fuck out, lol "

The policy is one of 'stay or go'... either you stay to defend your property or you leave - early.

Gutter guards = good. We're getting new ones right now, the upcoming fire season looks like an absolute beast.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-09-01 23:29:04

#41

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6962|Canberra, AUS

Mekstizzle wrote:
Those fires eh, I think California has had worse these past few years though, but that second to last pic Kez posted, yeah it looks like a giant Eruption

When you're right up close to a fire you can't see anything at all except a general red-black glow.

Not my pics btw.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-09-02 00:02:05

#42

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6888|132 and Bush

^^^Shame "THE bushfire death toll continues to rise as the CFA warns arsonists are deliberately relighting fires.
While firebugs are being blamed for several blazes ravaging Victoria, the Country Fire Authority has confirmed that several fires are being deliberately relit by arsonists."

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2640/3871650937_8c0ccd8957_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2569/3863491479_b35e8441f4_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3512541682_1e5cec9a72_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3511637321_8af74ff853_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3580/3508869258_44d0bf67cd_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/3037040874_f9913154d2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/3029336438_de1a179995_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2942945071_47a507e42a_b.jpg

Some more interesting ones I found on flickr.

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2009-09-02 00:09:37

#43

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6942

2009-09-02 00:26:53

#44

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7062|Moscow, Russia

Kmarion wrote:
^^^Shame "THE bushfire death toll continues to rise as the CFA warns arsonists are deliberately relighting fires.
While firebugs are being blamed for several blazes ravaging Victoria, the Country Fire Authority has confirmed that several fires are being deliberately relit by arsonists."

arsonists... there are people who actually want that firy hell to continue... holy shit.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2009-09-02 00:31:22

#45

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Sick they are. They killed many, including children.

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2009-09-02 01:37:52

#46

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7008|Sydney, Australia

To S3v3N or ATG: So as a follow up question to your reply to Spark - is there any back burning that is conducted in the off season to reduce the level of flammable material/undergrowth? A few weeks ago the Rural Fire Service (ie. the volunteer force) was conducting back burning in the "forrest" areas north of Sydney. It was rather hazy that day.. ><

Haha yeah Spark, we are fucked this year. I've heard that the AVERAGE summer temps will be hiiiigh 30's for Sydney.. and given the amount of rain we had earlier this year, combined with the absolute lack of rain now.. well.. joy.

Props to the firies, and keep safe S3v3N

2009-09-02 04:11:15

#47

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6510|Escea

Looks like a volcano

Must be some scary shit to be right in the thick of this.

Keep yourself out of trouble S3v3N.

2009-09-02 07:55:39

#48

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6816|Global Command

mcminty wrote:
To S3v3N or ATG: So as a follow up question to your reply to Spark - is there any back burning that is conducted in the off season to reduce the level of flammable material/undergrowth? A few weeks ago the Rural Fire Service (ie. the volunteer force) was conducting back burning in the "forrest" areas north of Sydney. It was rather hazy that day.. ><

Haha yeah Spark, we are fucked this year. I've heard that the AVERAGE summer temps will be hiiiigh 30's for Sydney.. and given the amount of rain we had earlier this year, combined with the absolute lack of rain now.. well.. joy.

Props to the firies, and keep safe S3v3N

That is not done much. Environmentalist protest when natural habitats are disturbed, nevermind the irony that we disturb things just by living and nature requires fire. Gross stupidity and mismanagement are the norms.

2009-09-02 10:30:35

#49

Red Forman: Banned; +402|5687

about 4mil or more for an overpriced mountain home then millions in tax money to protect it even though it is uninsurable in lots of places. great.

2009-09-02 10:39:13

#50

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6888|132 and Bush

Red Forman wrote:
about 4mil or more for an overpriced mountain home then millions in tax money to protect it even though it is uninsurable in lots of places. great.

Do you really think a bank is going to lend on a 4mil home without insurance? Do you know what the taxes are on a 4mil home?

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