Oi, ok. I was wondering...
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^Stupid fool, you forced me to do this.. 
now, fuck off
unless you got some solid evidence or BR records of me hacking (GGC ban does not suffice) you can just remain under your bridges, trolls
btw its not that hard to get 100 kills and 1 death in one round in a standard server... not at all...
now, fuck off
unless you got some solid evidence or BR records of me hacking (GGC ban does not suffice) you can just remain under your bridges, trolls
btw its not that hard to get 100 kills and 1 death in one round in a standard server... not at all...
Last edited by RoaringJet[FIN] (2009-08-28 07:10:45)
would you ban me for going 100-0 with the hind on gator? is that too "suspicious"?Ei Em wrote:
Someone has 100 kills and one death on full IO/V server when there's still 150 tickets left. Because in this situation PB can't do anything, but watch this legit player keep going, admins are forced to ban this "highly suspicious player". This ban happens because he's nothing but a suspected cheater.
In short, where do you draw the line?
ive done ~250/10 on a knife & pistol server, would that be suspicious too?
I'd say so unless you were using a gunRoaringJet[FIN] wrote:
ive done ~250/10 on a knife & pistol server, would that be suspicious too?
I would do nothing.steelie34 wrote:
would you ban me for going 100-0 with the hind on gator? is that too "suspicious"?
Besides, I said if there's still 150 tickets left. Roughly half of the round left and someone going 100 - 1 is unlikely to happen legimately, unless playing against players who are worse than bots. Of course... I made a lot of assumptions in my text that I didn't write up to clear up possible confusion. My bad anyway.
But my point was that when cheater is being banned from the PB streaming server, he is being banned because of suspicious playing (if he's on server playing at the moment) by an admin. If person has no record of cheating but is still cheating, he's banned because of suspicious playing. It is not a valid proof that mister A just killed 150 players from crane in Sharqi with his MP5. It is only "hint" that mister A "might" use an aimbot. Who knows, he might've got lucky too.
Last edited by Ei Em (2009-08-28 08:36:48)
how bout this:Ei Em wrote:
I would do nothing.steelie34 wrote:
would you ban me for going 100-0 with the hind on gator? is that too "suspicious"?
Besides, I said if there's still 150 tickets left. Roughly half of the round left and someone going 100 - 1 is unlikely to happen legimately, unless playing against players who are worse than bots. Of course... I made a lot of assumptions in my text that I didn't write up to clear up possible confusion. My bad anyway.
But my point was that when cheater is being banned from the PB streaming server, he is being banned because of suspicious playing (if he's on server playing at the moment) by an admin. If person has no record of cheating but is still cheating, he's banned because of suspicious playing. It is not a valid proof that mister A just killed 150 players from crane in Sharqi with his MP5. It is only "hint" that mister A "might" use an aimbot. Who knows, he might've got lucky too.
http://bf2s.com/player/126047877/
would you say that person is a hack?
Stats, I don't really care. And that is still below the point I made. And again, stats. I don't judge by stats. Actually, I don't judge at all... Three rounds. Three rounds on winning side.
Try that same on side that is being raped, then I might say that is a cheat...
Edit: I don't even get the point of showing that. Just average rape stats.
Edit2: Actually, haha, even on MEC side.
Now, as I already said in previous post that I made too many assumptions and didn't even bother writing them down. Bottom line I TRIED to say was, that when cheater is going to be banned by an admin, he is going to ban it because of suspicious playing.
Try that same on side that is being raped, then I might say that is a cheat...
Edit: I don't even get the point of showing that. Just average rape stats.
Edit2: Actually, haha, even on MEC side.
Now, as I already said in previous post that I made too many assumptions and didn't even bother writing them down. Bottom line I TRIED to say was, that when cheater is going to be banned by an admin, he is going to ban it because of suspicious playing.
Last edited by Ei Em (2009-08-28 15:58:35)
all i'm trying to prove is that banning someone for 'suspicious play' is a joke. i'm sick of admins banning people just because they aren't as good as them. they just assume the player is hacking because they aren't on the same level, with absolutely no evidence. some of these good players have literally thousands of hours playtime, and then some staff sergeant with admin rights starts banning them because they can't comprehend the difference in ability.Ei Em wrote:
Stats, I don't really care. And that is still below the point I made. And again, stats. I don't judge by stats. Actually, I don't judge at all... Three rounds. Three rounds on winning side.
Try that same on side that is being raped, then I might say that is a cheat...
Edit: I don't even get the point of showing that. Just average rape stats.
Edit2: Actually, haha, even on MEC side.
Now, as I already said in previous post that I made too many assumptions and didn't even bother writing them down. Bottom line I TRIED to say was, that when cheater is going to be banned by an admin, he is going to ban it because of suspicious playing.
it's sad there are less than ten non-karkand servers left with good admins in the US.
if you wouldnt be so stupid to look when i made this forum account, but look at the amount of posts i made instead... i havent been in here for over a year. i have just seen you posting in here..RoaringJet[FIN] wrote:
e: Stupid troll, 500+ days and +2 karma, how about just leave this place? Nobody likes you.
It's funny that something of the same species has landed on the moon.
Yeah I know what you mean.steelie34 wrote:
all i'm trying to prove is that banning someone for 'suspicious play' is a joke. i'm sick of admins banning people just because they aren't as good as them. they just assume the player is hacking because they aren't on the same level, with absolutely no evidence. some of these good players have literally thousands of hours playtime, and then some staff sergeant with admin rights starts banning them because they can't comprehend the difference in ability.
it's sad there are less than ten non-karkand servers left with good admins in the US.
I just tried to say that when there's a cheater on server using aimbot, but there's no "valid" proof other than that he's snapping everyone everywhere he's being banned because of suspicious playing, not because of valid proof. It's just matter of how far one wants to stretch "evidence".
Valid proof is when you go to see Mister A in his home, beat his nose, kick his teeth in, walk upstairs, open his computer, scroll through his porn, scroll through other stupid pics, stumble in BF2 folder and find that there's something that's giving unfair advantage in-game and is not supposed to be there. That's valid proof (for me, at least). Other is mainly suspection. Well, you can trust in PB too but I've seen innocent players got caught by PB, including my brother, so I don't weigh too much trust on it anymore. Besides actual aimbot users can be seen almost every day.
But I know what it is like being banned/kicked from multiple servers because of "cheating" or suspicious playing. It's not like I can play much on euro servers anymore. TV2 servers are one of the only ones I am not banned from and it is totally no-go for me. Mainly because if I actually am going to get killed I want my enemies do it for me, not by my team mate while I'm trying to take off/gap flags. I could say 90% of my deaths caused on that server is caused by my fellow soldiers in mis-fortune.
Edit: I don't really care whether I am banned or not. It's not my server, I don't pay for it. Simple as that. Besides, I like playing US servers any way, people use mics their mics more.
Last edited by Ei Em (2009-08-29 06:06:35)
hhmm yes, bbuk suck
Entertaining read....
Thought I would spare you guys the WALLS of text in this dicussion by saying this:
Irish is a cunt. No doubt.
ediT is Batman. (cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater)
Car wheeling is only a minor inconvenience.
I am an American gamer who NEVER decides to play Euro servers. Never. I would only play BBUK if I wanted to gloat about being average in BF2. Seems to be serious banhammer offenses there..... Regarldess, I shall play there tomorrow and I will make it my goal to get banned.
Ya'll are awesome for fueding so much. It brings tears to my eyes. THE INTERNET IS FOR REAL SON!
Thought I would spare you guys the WALLS of text in this dicussion by saying this:
Irish is a cunt. No doubt.
ediT is Batman. (cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater)
Car wheeling is only a minor inconvenience.
I am an American gamer who NEVER decides to play Euro servers. Never. I would only play BBUK if I wanted to gloat about being average in BF2. Seems to be serious banhammer offenses there..... Regarldess, I shall play there tomorrow and I will make it my goal to get banned.
Ya'll are awesome for fueding so much. It brings tears to my eyes. THE INTERNET IS FOR REAL SON!
Last edited by TopSoulMan (2009-12-15 23:50:44)
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me.TopSoulMan wrote:
Entertaining read....
Thought I would spare you guys the WALLS of text in this dicussion by saying this:
Irish is a cunt. No doubt.
ediT is Batman. (cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater)
Car wheeling is only a minor inconvenience.
I am an American gamer who NEVER decides to play Euro servers. Never. I would only play BBUK if I wanted to gloat about being average in BF2. Seems to be serious banhammer offenses there..... Regarldess, I shall play there tomorrow and I will make it my goal to get banned.
Ya'll are awesome for fueding so much. It brings tears to my eyes. THE INTERNET IS FOR REAL SON!
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