but the cards might be cheaper than sli-ing 2 nvidia 7900gtx's...Maj.Do wrote:
some1 posted already, i thinkbuying it will be useless because SLI and crossfire will soon include something like this
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It's not that much effort. The studios that did Bet On Soldier patched their game for PhysX. EA is just to lazy/greedy (i.e., charging for Euro Forces).Skinnister wrote:
problem being though have a look on the BFG website, they list the games that are going to be compatible with it..problem being is that there is only going to be 20 or 40 to start with and yeah they arnt badly priced at all.
but the worst problem is EA have said that they wont make it compatible for BF2 because that means they will have to rewrite the games program so its to much effort for them and Im not sure if they are going to make BF 2142 compatible with it......maybe BF3 i hope
agreeunnamednewbie13 wrote:
It's not that much effort. The studios that did Bet On Soldier patched their game for PhysX. EA is just to lazy/greedy (i.e., charging for Euro Forces).Skinnister wrote:
problem being though have a look on the BFG website, they list the games that are going to be compatible with it..problem being is that there is only going to be 20 or 40 to start with and yeah they arnt badly priced at all.
but the worst problem is EA have said that they wont make it compatible for BF2 because that means they will have to rewrite the games program so its to much effort for them and Im not sure if they are going to make BF 2142 compatible with it......maybe BF3 i hope
lol this is not just patching the pame this is rewriting the as they say "physics engine" like blast effect, so when you drop arty it will leave giant holes in the ground and they will stay there here is a link and somw pics that will give you a better view on the physx cardsunnamednewbie13 wrote:
It's not that much effort. The studios that did Bet On Soldier patched their game for PhysX. EA is just to lazy/greedy (i.e., charging for Euro Forces).Skinnister wrote:
problem being though have a look on the BFG website, they list the games that are going to be compatible with it..problem being is that there is only going to be 20 or 40 to start with and yeah they arnt badly priced at all.
but the worst problem is EA have said that they wont make it compatible for BF2 because that means they will have to rewrite the games program so its to much effort for them and Im not sure if they are going to make BF 2142 compatible with it......maybe BF3 i hope
Actually, no. You wouldn't have to do an entire engine rewrite. I'm not saying that EA would have to write terrain-deforming code, but that it would be little-to-no effort to implement supplementary client-end code for physics management of simple effects like particle systems (which is really all they did with BoS). Wouldn't it be cool if mud and water slammed against your windshield after a shell went off in the swamp next to you? Or if dust and smoke from gunfire was present, and blew away? Or if great gouts of dust were kicked up from artillery and tank blasts?Skinnister wrote:
lol this is not just patching the pame this is rewriting the as they say "physics engine" like blast effect, so when you drop arty it will leave giant holes in the ground and they will stay there here is a link and somw pics that will give you a better view on the physx cardsunnamednewbie13 wrote:
It's not that much effort. The studios that did Bet On Soldier patched their game for PhysX. EA is just to lazy/greedy (i.e., charging for Euro Forces).Skinnister wrote:
problem being though have a look on the BFG website, they list the games that are going to be compatible with it..problem being is that there is only going to be 20 or 40 to start with and yeah they arnt badly priced at all.
but the worst problem is EA have said that they wont make it compatible for BF2 because that means they will have to rewrite the games program so its to much effort for them and Im not sure if they are going to make BF 2142 compatible with it......maybe BF3 i hope
http://www.bfgtech.com/physx/index.htm
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Taking the load off the processor will make your game experience more smooth, of course, so you'll see an increment in framerate. What this thing does is let games have way more physics objects than before. The drawing will of course still be done by the graphics card, but the amount of objects will no longer be limited by your CPU. Try downloading Garry's Mod for HL2 and spawn 200 watermelons. They're all seperate entities for the physics engine to calculate. Give it time, and the melons will settle on the ground and your framerate will go up to more normal levels. Toss a grenade in there, and you'll get a frame every 4-5 seconds, not because your graphics card sucks, but because the processor simply can't handle all the calculations needed. That's what the PhysX processor will take care of, meaning higher framerates and substantially more objects allowing for new gamemodes and higher levels of interactivity.dubbs wrote:
From my understanding the phyx card will not increase your graphics that much. They are more like a beefed up co-math processor. Designed to handle certian parts of your program to take a load off your CPU. Just like the graphic card was once powered by your CPU, hardware companies have created the phyx card to take the "phyx" from your applications, and allow them to run on a different CPU.
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wait... Americas Army is gonna use UT2k7 engine?!!! woot, i think they use quake 3 engine for now... btu the card looks awsome, does anyone know whats its price?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Exactly. Given current technology standards, you can't really have a game where a tank bowls through a city, shattering concrete barriers with each fragment having its own set of interactive physics. As wildly fun as flinging limp corpses around and knocking a couple barrels about is, it could not possibly compare with games designed to use physics as more than just a cosmetic bullet point.
PhysX will increase graphics tremendously for games designed to support it, and that will be no paltry amount of titles. Particularly with the amount of developers who will license the UT2007 engine for their games (including for America's Army).
It probably doesnt need more then 128Mb of memory. You have to remember it doesn't have to store textures like a video card. As I understand its just a dedicated processor for physics, nothing more.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
And I've been following this bit of technology for some time. I was aware of the BFG one, but I wonder why they only put 128MB of memory on it.
If you look at the card, you'll notice that it isn't very fancy. With the price GDDR3 is getting to be nowadays, you'd have thought 256MB would have been standard, to future-proof against ultra-high physics settings. In fact, I remember many articles speculating that 256MB would be the number. Oh, well.the_outsider38 wrote:
It probably doesnt need more then 128Mb of memory. You have to remember it doesn't have to store textures like a video card. As I understand its just a dedicated processor for physics, nothing more.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
And I've been following this bit of technology for some time. I was aware of the BFG one, but I wonder why they only put 128MB of memory on it.
$350 bucks!!! Thats pretty cheap for the quality your getting. I paid $850 for my 2 256Mb EVGA 7800GT COs when I upgraded from a 128MB ATI X800 SE. I noticed quite a performance/quality boost but nothing to the scale of what the CellFactor video shows.
America's Army uses an Unreal Tournament engine. They are merely moving to the new version.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
wait... Americas Army is gonna use UT2k7 engine?!!! woot, i think they use quake 3 engine for now... btu the card looks awsome, does anyone know whats its price?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Exactly. Given current technology standards, you can't really have a game where a tank bowls through a city, shattering concrete barriers with each fragment having its own set of interactive physics. As wildly fun as flinging limp corpses around and knocking a couple barrels about is, it could not possibly compare with games designed to use physics as more than just a cosmetic bullet point.
PhysX will increase graphics tremendously for games designed to support it, and that will be no paltry amount of titles. Particularly with the amount of developers who will license the UT2007 engine for their games (including for America's Army).
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