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2009-08-24 11:20:42
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6860|London, England
I never said they were awarded medals for shooting down the airliner. All I said was that they were awarded medals despite the fact that they shot down an airliner.

I know it was an "accident", but it was still quite a stupid one, practically barely an accident from what you read about the incident. Awarding medals after that only further gets people angry. Hence you get all these bullshit terrorist strikes. There's plenty of reasons why fucked up shit happens, it's not all just because they hate our freedom and want to convert us all to Islam. It's because the US does and did alot of stupid shit that it doesn't need to do. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.


This made me lol though, "Scotch Whiskey" to be renamed "Freedom Whiskey"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/8219118.stm

I'm also just trying to provide perspective. There's still the issue of the IRA and the USA's attitude towards them and more specifically, extradition cases involving the US and the IRA. It's doesn't really have much to do with the Lockerbie case, like I said, it's all about perspective.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-08-24 11:22:22)

2009-08-24 11:24:12
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5639
you can lol all you want.  fuck scotland.  you can keep mocking the people who died with your lulz.
2009-08-24 11:28:10
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6860|London, England
I'm not mocking anyone who died, how the hell have you got to that fucking conclusion, that's fucked up.

You talk about "fuck Scotland" because you're getting hyped up in the situation and getting carried away. I'm trying to provide perspective. People think their own countries have never done anything bad, or dumb, or questionable and now suddenly Scotland is the villain of the free world. All this dumb shit is stupid, and more importantly, childish.

You guys can go ahead with your complaints and hypocrisy it doesn't change the truth about anything
2009-08-24 11:29:19
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5639
they fucked up.  they know it.  the US is scotland's single biggest export market.  hit them where it hurts.  words are pointless.  hit the wallet.

Mekstizzle wrote:

it doesn't change the truth about anything
oh you know the truth.  thank god man.  thank god.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-24 11:30:24)

2009-08-24 11:30:26
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6794

Mekstizzle wrote:

There's still the issue of the IRA and the USA's attitude towards them and more specifically, extradition cases involving the US and the IRA.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/nort … 215861.stm

/win
2009-08-24 11:33:09
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6860|London, England
People are free to do what they want, but stuff like that is extreme, although it probably won't actually make a difference. All I'm saying is, look at all the anger directed towards Scotland, and now, to Scottish people. It's irrational hate, and it's by the same people who just started wildly hating at France, and any other country. It's these type of people who have issues and can't just take a breath and look at things with a wider lense. Always with the silly rhetoric and boycotts. It's just lame.
2009-08-24 11:34:43
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5639
i dont even know what we get from scotland anyway(nor do i care).  but, people can do what they want.  i think its retarded for haji to run around their turd world countries burning flags, but hey, most people dont care about that.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-24 11:37:36)

2009-08-24 11:42:26
CameronPoe
Member
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Mekstizzle wrote:

People are free to do what they want, but stuff like that is extreme, although it probably won't actually make a difference. All I'm saying is, look at all the anger directed towards Scotland, and now, to Scottish people. It's irrational hate, and it's by the same people who just started wildly hating at France, and any other country. It's these type of people who have issues and can't just take a breath and look at things with a wider lense. Always with the silly rhetoric and boycotts. It's just lame.
There seems to be a lot of childish people in America. Scotland's decision blows imo, but Scotland (and the UK as a whole) is a US ally and  this whole boycott nonsense is retarded to the extreme. Ultimately they can't be boycotted because presumably all goods from Scotland bear the mark 'made in the UK' which means the only obvious thing Americans can boycott is whiskey - which is their loss because Scottish whiskey is some of the best in the entire world.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-08-24 11:43:12)

2009-08-24 11:43:26
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5639
lol....speaking of childish, you guys have riots/fights at soccer games.  lol.  ello pot.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-24 11:45:07)

2009-08-24 11:46:54
CameronPoe
Member
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Red Forman wrote:

lol....speaking of childish, you guys have riots/fights at soccer games.  lol.  ello pot.
That doesn't actually happen in Ireland, but nice try. Soccer isn't a big enough game over here. We don't even require crowd segregation at GAA matches.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-08-24 11:47:19)

2009-08-24 11:47:26
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6709
Fuck Scotland.

Blindly nationalist and extremely incompetent fucktards. Give them full secession from England, in my opinion, why are we still carrying their economic and cultural deadweight? Scotland (and Wales) are shitholes, and now they provably can't even handle their own just and reasonable judicial decisions, selling out for some shady PR-stunt and oil-deal. About time we cut off the benefit-sponging underclass of mongrel Scots, and let their red-faced whiskey-drunk politicians try to keep the fucking hole afloat by themselves.
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2009-08-24 11:52:18
13rin
Member
+977|6718

Mek wrote:

This made me lol though, "Scotch Whiskey" to be renamed "Freedom Whiskey"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/8219118.stm

I'm also just trying to provide perspective. There's still the issue of the IRA and the USA's attitude towards them and more specifically, extradition cases involving the US and the IRA. It's doesn't really have much to do with the Lockerbie case, like I said, it's all about perspective.
God Damnit.  Freedom Whiskey?  I'll stick with my Walker Gold thank you very much and continue my boycott of all things Libyan... Does Libya make anything?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2009-08-24 11:54:15
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6794
I like how Scotland is taking the hit for something that you can bet your bottom dollar was instigated in Whitehall.
2009-08-24 11:55:25
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6692|The Twilight Zone
Its all Brown's fault
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2009-08-24 11:58:24
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5639

Uzique wrote:

Fuck Scotland.

Blindly nationalist and extremely incompetent fucktards. Give them full secession from England, in my opinion, why are we still carrying their economic and cultural deadweight? Scotland (and Wales) are shitholes, and now they provably can't even handle their own just and reasonable judicial decisions, selling out for some shady PR-stunt and oil-deal. About time we cut off the benefit-sponging underclass of mongrel Scots, and let their red-faced whiskey-drunk politicians try to keep the fucking hole afloat by themselves.
2009-08-24 12:03:54
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6709
Instigated in Whitehall? How exactly? Do you know how the British (& Scottish) legislative and judicial processes work? The appeal/release decision was theirs and theirs only to make. I just don't see the point in us sheltering these mongrel states anyway, individually they're all absolute shit, and do nothing but whine and moan when we take responsibility and capacity for their rights and roles.

Jesus... even Mandelson had something decent to say on the matter, which is a surprise for that reptile. He basically said incredulously to a supporter: "What do you want us to do? Go up there and knock on the Scottish Nationalist Party's door and intervene? It's ludicrous and frankly, insulting"- or something along those lines.

Last edited by Uzique (2009-08-24 12:05:03)

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2009-08-24 12:11:14
CameronPoe
Member
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Uzique wrote:

Instigated in Whitehall? How exactly? Do you know how the British (& Scottish) legislative and judicial processes work? The appeal/release decision was theirs and theirs only to make. I just don't see the point in us sheltering these mongrel states anyway, individually they're all absolute shit, and do nothing but whine and moan when we take responsibility and capacity for their rights and roles.

Jesus... even Mandelson had something decent to say on the matter, which is a surprise for that reptile. He basically said incredulously to a supporter: "What do you want us to do? Go up there and knock on the Scottish Nationalist Party's door and intervene? It's ludicrous and frankly, insulting"- or something along those lines.
I know that legislative and judicial processes don't mean shit when people with influence and clout lean on others. Or are you oblivous to the softening of the British governments' stance towards Libya over the past couple of years. Were you lying under a rock when Colonel Gadaffi thanked your prime minister for encouraging his release. And Mandelson? Didn't he meet with Saif Gaddafi on two occasions to discuss this release. For someone with delusions of grandeur and an exaggerated sense of how important your largely grey arrogant chavtastic overpopulated little nation is I find it odd that you get taken in by the story you get sold while reality takes place in the background and over your head. The Scottish Nationalist probably love this because it actually makes them look like they have some power, which of course is very debatable.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-08-24 12:12:38)

2009-08-24 12:12:22
13rin
Member
+977|6718
I'm just glad the White House used its political clout to try and stop this.... Oh they didn't?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2009-08-24 12:13:34
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6794

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I'm just glad the White House used its political clout to try and stop this.... Oh they didn't?
Owed a favour for all the shit that the US has dragged them through the past 8 years. The UK is loving Libyan oil and business interests right now and they want to seal the deal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … s-son.html

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-08-24 12:17:15)

2009-08-24 12:17:07
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6709

CameronPoe wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Instigated in Whitehall? How exactly? Do you know how the British (& Scottish) legislative and judicial processes work? The appeal/release decision was theirs and theirs only to make. I just don't see the point in us sheltering these mongrel states anyway, individually they're all absolute shit, and do nothing but whine and moan when we take responsibility and capacity for their rights and roles.

Jesus... even Mandelson had something decent to say on the matter, which is a surprise for that reptile. He basically said incredulously to a supporter: "What do you want us to do? Go up there and knock on the Scottish Nationalist Party's door and intervene? It's ludicrous and frankly, insulting"- or something along those lines.
I know that legislative and judicial processes don't mean shit when people with influence and clout lean on others. Or are you oblivous to the softening of the British governments' stance towards Libya over the past couple of years. Were you lying under a rock when Colonel Gadaffi thanked your prime minister for encouraging his release. And Mandelson? Didn't he meet with Saif Gaddafi on two occasions to discuss this release. For someone with delusions of grandeur and an exaggerated sense of how important your largely grey arrogant chavtastic overpopulated little nation is I find it odd that you get taken in by the story you get sold while reality takes place in the background and over your head. The Scottish Nationalist probably love this because it actually makes them look like they have some power, which of course is very debatable.
Of course I know that this is all about oil-dealings and reaching out a hand towards Libyan relations... I said it in my first post of this thread. It's still the absolute failure of the Scottish judiciary though, and the decision and resulting catastrophic public-disaster that it has turned out to be was all in the hands of the Scots. If their Nationalist party had any real political and collective ability, then they would have told us grubby Brit imperialist-overlords to get fucked, surely? No, their party is a farcical joke instead and, incidentally, Scotland is a shithole that we shouldn't keep under our kingdom's wing anyway.

And I'll kindly ignore any "chavtastic" comments coming from a fucking Irish mongrel. Have you looked at your own cities recently? I live in the nice parts of England, thanks very much... you know, the affluent parts that we proportionately have more of than you dumb Irish.

Last edited by Uzique (2009-08-24 12:18:14)

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2009-08-24 12:19:40
CameronPoe
Member
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Uzique wrote:

Of course I know that this is all about oil-dealings and reaching out a hand towards Libyan relations... I said it in my first post of this thread. It's still the absolute failure of the Scottish judiciary though, and the decision and resulting catastrophic public-disaster that it has turned out to be was all in the hands of the Scots. If their Nationalist party had any real political and collective ability, then they would have told us grubby Brit imperialist-overlords to get fucked, surely? No, their party is a farcical joke instead and, incidentally, Scotland is a shithole that we shouldn't keep under our kingdom's wing anyway.
The Scottish Nationalist Party does appear to be a farcical joke but I can't possibly agree that Scotland is a shithole. Glasgow is a shithole but the rest of that nation is beautiful and is undeserving of the kind of generalised diatribe that I threw up to show you how you sound.

Edit: Wow, missed the racism edit at the end there. You make yourself sound reeeeaaallly intelligent. Wish I was English like you. lol. Also like your elitist streak whereby the 'bad parts of England' are dismissed as inconsequential. :facepalm: Odd obsession with the word mongrel also.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-08-24 12:22:06)

2009-08-24 12:22:00
13rin
Member
+977|6718

CameronPoe wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I'm just glad the White House used its political clout to try and stop this.... Oh they didn't?
Owed a favour for all the shit that the US has dragged them through the past 8 years. The UK is loving Libyan oil and business interests right now and they want to seal the deal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … s-son.html
Awesome.  GG UKania.  Meanwhile as Cuba allows Russia and China to drill off its coast, The SCO is busy neutering the CIA...
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2009-08-24 12:22:23
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6709
National beauty is great and all, but it doesn't really benefit the rest of the UK as a nation economically when we're paying for their shitty quality-of-life. It's ironic that they voted in a nationalist party with agendas of devolution and secession, etc. even though they all know that without our economic support, they're boned. I say cut 'em loose and let them try to stay afloat; watch the GDP and OECD ratings plummet as their incompetent and clueless nationalist poster-childs get assfucked without the help of England.
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2009-08-24 12:25:24
CameronPoe
Member
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Uzique wrote:

National beauty is great and all, but it doesn't really benefit the rest of the UK as a nation economically when we're paying for their shitty quality-of-life. It's ironic that they voted in a nationalist party with agendas of devolution and secession, etc. even though they all know that without our economic support, they're boned. I say cut 'em loose and let them try to stay afloat; watch the GDP and OECD ratings plummet as their incompetent and clueless nationalist poster-childs get assfucked without the help of England.
Well then cut them off. Revoke the Act of Union. They'll learn to survive. They have oil and nuclear power and decent universities. It'll take a few decades to steady the ship but at least they'll have some dignity, self determination and freedom. You are such a throwback to long bygone colonial times it's not true. Took Ireland 50 or so years to achieve better quality of life, standard of living and GDP per capita than the English but we got there in the end. Can't see why the Scots wouldn't be able to.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-08-24 12:27:33)

2009-08-24 12:40:12
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6709
It's hard to objectively compare the GDP and quality-of-life in England and Ireland when our state and society is still keeping Wales and Scotland afloat...

And yes, I'm all for cutting them loose. I'm not a throwback to colonial Imperialism or haw-haw attitudes, at all. I just think if the era of empire is over, dismantled and gone, then why are we still societally and economically funding two other sovereign states that are fucked up shit creek without a paddle? I'd rather enjoy a better quality of life for my fellow Englishman than to suffer even marginally because we have to publicly fund schemes and welfare systems in Wales and Scotland.
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