To the OP, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. If the GOP wants to have a real chance to take the level of power that the Dems hold now, they are going to have to give the heave-ho to the fundamentalist religious whackjobs that make up much of the party and it's hard line supporters.
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don't you realize how hard Ronald Reagan fought to include them? this ain't your daddy's GOP.Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
they are going to have to give the heave-ho to the fundamentalist religious whackjobs that make up much of the party and it's hard line supporters.
Well Ronald wasn't the messiah that Pubs make him out to be. Best thing they could is give them a one finger salute and a good ol' fashioned boot to the ass.burnzz wrote:
don't you realize how hard Ronald Reagan fought to include them? this ain't your daddy's GOP.Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
they are going to have to give the heave-ho to the fundamentalist religious whackjobs that make up much of the party and it's hard line supporters.
Keeping evangelicals out of the White House is a good idea.
Unfortunately, we'll probably have more of them enter the presidency in the future.
Unfortunately, we'll probably have more of them enter the presidency in the future.
Funny as hell this damned recession actually forced millions of lapsed Christians back into churches and well you know how this is going to end up.Turquoise wrote:
Keeping evangelicals out of the White House is a good idea.
Unfortunately, we'll probably have more of them enter the presidency in the future.
Elect an atheist President already!
Has any large country actually done that?AussieReaper wrote:
Elect an atheist President already!
We can't just go straight to atheist we got to get an agnostic first. Can't just make the jump from Christian to atheist without doing agnostic in between.AussieReaper wrote:
Elect an atheist President already!
Hell, let's go back to basics - someone who doesn't wear their faith on their sleeve.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
No, but I'd settle for an Agnostic as Macbeth stated...Turquoise wrote:
Has any large country actually done that?AussieReaper wrote:
Elect an atheist President already!
This.Spark wrote:
Hell, let's go back to basics - someone who doesn't wear their faith on their sleeve.
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Pastafarian is better tbh.Kmarion wrote:
This.Spark wrote:
Hell, let's go back to basics - someone who doesn't wear their faith on their sleeve.
well... russia's pretty large, you know. i woudn't call the process of those eltsyn, putin and medvedev dudes becoming our presidents elections though .Turquoise wrote:
Has any large country actually done that?AussieReaper wrote:
Elect an atheist President already!
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
There is yet to be any credible explanation for the reason behind the invasion, its clear the WMD were a pretext, the OP is as convincing as any other.FEOS wrote:
No.
Fuck Israel
Well, Brazil is the next largest country after the US (5th largest in terms of both area and population) and they recently had an atheist president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso.Turquoise wrote:
Has any large country actually done that?AussieReaper wrote:
Elect an atheist President already!
Just like they did in 94 to get power eh? Wait ...Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
To the OP, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. If the GOP wants to have a real chance to take the level of power that the Dems hold now, they are going to have to give the heave-ho to the fundamentalist religious whackjobs that make up much of the party and it's hard line supporters.
There's been plenty of credible explanation for the reason(s)...it's just easier for people to believe that Bush went all "Crusader" than to believe he acted on bad information.Dilbert_X wrote:
There is yet to be any credible explanation for the reason behind the invasion, its clear the WMD were a pretext, the OP is as convincing as any other.FEOS wrote:
No.
Which is ludicrous.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Strange that he acted on bogus information in the way he did, when there really was credible intel that other nations with longer histories of real contacts with terrorists DID have WMDs and active nuclear programs whereas Saddam obviously didn't.There's been plenty of credible explanation for the reason(s)...it's just easier for people to believe that Bush went all "Crusader" than to believe he acted on bad information.
Even if he hadn't had any, good or bad, information on WMDs, it was clear he would have created some other pretext.
Fuck Israel
Actually, I'd argue that the reason why Republicans swept Congress in 94 had less to do with the GOP and more to do with the Democrats. They swung too far left too fast, and the people reacted by electing Republicans to balance out a Democratic president.Stingray24 wrote:
Just like they did in 94 to get power eh? Wait ...Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
To the OP, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. If the GOP wants to have a real chance to take the level of power that the Dems hold now, they are going to have to give the heave-ho to the fundamentalist religious whackjobs that make up much of the party and it's hard line supporters.
Similarly, Congress was swept by Democrats in 2006 because the Republicans swung too far right too fast.
It's amazing what's "obvious" with the benefit of hindsight.Dilbert_X wrote:
Strange that he acted on bogus information in the way he did, when there really was credible intel that other nations with longer histories of real contacts with terrorists DID have WMDs and active nuclear programs whereas Saddam obviously didn't.There's been plenty of credible explanation for the reason(s)...it's just easier for people to believe that Bush went all "Crusader" than to believe he acted on bad information.
Even if he hadn't had any, good or bad, information on WMDs, it was clear he would have created some other pretext.
To make an accurate and valid argument, you have to look at the situation THEN. What was known and what was suspected THEN. Doing so with what is known NOW is irrelevant.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
America is actually the 3rd largest country in population (Indonesia is 4th).Bertster7 wrote:
Well, Brazil is the next largest country after the US (5th largest in terms of both area and population) and they recently had an atheist president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso.Turquoise wrote:
Has any large country actually done that?AussieReaper wrote:
Elect an atheist President already!
But yeah, that's pretty impressive considering how thoroughly Catholic Brazil is. I figured it would be nearly impossible to have an atheist president in a Catholic country.
And people thought it would be impossible to have a Catholic president here. Or a black one.Turquoise wrote:
America is actually the 3rd largest country in population (Indonesia is 4th).Bertster7 wrote:
Well, Brazil is the next largest country after the US (5th largest in terms of both area and population) and they recently had an atheist president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso.Turquoise wrote:
Has any large country actually done that?
But yeah, that's pretty impressive considering how thoroughly Catholic Brazil is. I figured it would be nearly impossible to have an atheist president in a Catholic country.
Times change.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
True, but Brazil is a lot more religious than America. I just find it amazing that they have had an openly atheist commander in chief. It's probably going to be a long time before we have one though.FEOS wrote:
And people thought it would be impossible to have a Catholic president here. Or a black one.Turquoise wrote:
America is actually the 3rd largest country in population (Indonesia is 4th).Bertster7 wrote:
Well, Brazil is the next largest country after the US (5th largest in terms of both area and population) and they recently had an atheist president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso.
But yeah, that's pretty impressive considering how thoroughly Catholic Brazil is. I figured it would be nearly impossible to have an atheist president in a Catholic country.
Times change.
As I said...people said the same thing about Catholic and black Presidents here, as well.Turquoise wrote:
True, but Brazil is a lot more religious than America. I just find it amazing that they have had an openly atheist commander in chief. It's probably going to be a long time before we have one though.FEOS wrote:
And people thought it would be impossible to have a Catholic president here. Or a black one.Turquoise wrote:
America is actually the 3rd largest country in population (Indonesia is 4th).
But yeah, that's pretty impressive considering how thoroughly Catholic Brazil is. I figured it would be nearly impossible to have an atheist president in a Catholic country.
Times change.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I look forward to the day when colour, religion and even party cease to be relevant in electing the most capable person to do the job.
Then he/she will REALLY be able to get to the bottom of why Bush invaded Iraq
Then he/she will REALLY be able to get to the bottom of why Bush invaded Iraq
Fuck Israel
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