the law provents this. In this case the max the guy could get was 6 months, and he got it.Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
lowing, you (might not be you specifically I can't remember lol) always talk about the slippery slope to things, ie: when you do something where does it stop. If a judge can give someone 6 months for yawning, why couldn't they give 12 months for speaking or 6 months for excessive crying or 12 months for not sitting with correct posture. Seriously, our courts aren't here to punish smartarses, they are here to punish criminals.
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Even then...maybe just trow the guy out of the place on his face.Red Forman wrote:
I agree with bold boy. Should have just locked him up overnight or something.
for a group of people that expect and demand that authority defend you and take care of you, you sure seem to think it does not deserve much respect. I guess entitlement does that to people.
This has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with a proportional response.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I thought you believed the Government should stay out of people's business.lowing wrote:
for a group of people that expect and demand that authority defend you and take care of you, you sure seem to think it does not deserve much respect. I guess entitlement does that to people.
So next time if you cough in court you get sent to the gulags?
yeah if it sounds likeCybargs wrote:
I thought you believed the Government should stay out of people's business.lowing wrote:
for a group of people that expect and demand that authority defend you and take care of you, you sure seem to think it does not deserve much respect. I guess entitlement does that to people.
So next time if you cough in court you get sent to the gulags?
co- bullshit -ugh
i think it is 4 months for rolling your eyes though
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He didn't "cough" in court, and he was being disrespectful and mocking, he got called on it.Cybargs wrote:
I thought you believed the Government should stay out of people's business.lowing wrote:
for a group of people that expect and demand that authority defend you and take care of you, you sure seem to think it does not deserve much respect. I guess entitlement does that to people.
So next time if you cough in court you get sent to the gulags?
Enforcing the laws and punishing criminals is not the same as staying out of peoples business. and to be honest it is a really stupid connection to make on your part.
mocking the court, and contempt of court are serious actions. Ya kinda don't do it.Spark wrote:
This has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with a proportional response.
send him to the slammer for the night. humiliated, done.
Well when you are a judge you can be as lenient as you wish. Personally I like a judge who is sick of fuckheads like this guy.Bevo wrote:
send him to the slammer for the night. humiliated, done.
DUI is a serious action which can result in manslaughter.lowing wrote:
mocking the court, and contempt of court are serious actions. Ya kinda don't do it.Spark wrote:
This has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with a proportional response.
Yawning hurts the judges pride.
not sure what the connection is to DUI but I am forced to agree with you, it most certainly can result in manslaughter.AussieReaper wrote:
DUI is a serious action which can result in manslaughter.lowing wrote:
mocking the court, and contempt of court are serious actions. Ya kinda don't do it.Spark wrote:
This has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with a proportional response.
Yawning hurts the judges pride.
He was not yawning, he was being a smart ass, disruptive and disrespectful to the proceedings. I guess it boils down to difference of opinion as to how he should be punished. Since I like the outcome, and am pleased, I guess it is up to you to come to grips with it.
I can bet that this isn't the end of it.He was let go after 3 weeks.
Is this the outcome you wanted?
Inconsistent rulings are bad rulings.People in other Will County courtrooms have received less severe sentences for seemingly more flagrant offenses. In Judge Richard Schoenstedt's court last year, a woman was disruptive during closing arguments of a trial; shouted, "This is bull ..." as she was led away; was held to the floor by a deputy; and "continued to be disruptive" after later being brought back before the judge. She received a 7-day sentence for contempt, records show.
A Tribune review of a decade's worth of contempt-of-court charges reveals that Rozak jails people -- typically spectators whose cell phones go off or who scream or shout profanity during sentencing
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I agree with that, they should be consistantly harsh.Spark wrote:
I can bet that this isn't the end of it.He was let go after 3 weeks.
Is this the outcome you wanted?Inconsistent rulings are bad rulings.People in other Will County courtrooms have received less severe sentences for seemingly more flagrant offenses. In Judge Richard Schoenstedt's court last year, a woman was disruptive during closing arguments of a trial; shouted, "This is bull ..." as she was led away; was held to the floor by a deputy; and "continued to be disruptive" after later being brought back before the judge. She received a 7-day sentence for contempt, records show.A Tribune review of a decade's worth of contempt-of-court charges reveals that Rozak jails people -- typically spectators whose cell phones go off or who scream or shout profanity during sentencing
If the law, the court and the proceedings are to be mocked and not respected, what chance does it have to really be effective?
The connection to DUI, which was brought up earlier in this thread, is that the punishment for DUI isn't as severe as 6 months jail.lowing wrote:
not sure what the connection is to DUI but I am forced to agree with you, it most certainly can result in manslaughter.AussieReaper wrote:
DUI is a serious action which can result in manslaughter.lowing wrote:
mocking the court, and contempt of court are serious actions. Ya kinda don't do it.
Yawning hurts the judges pride.
He was not yawning, he was being a smart ass, disruptive and disrespectful to the proceedings. I guess it boils down to difference of opinion as to how he should be punished. Since I like the outcome, and am pleased, I guess it is up to you to come to grips with it.
Lowing, I'm not sure if you've ever not had enough sleep, but sometimes when you start yawning you can't stop. Now maybe this might seem disrespectful to the judge, but is a perfectly innocent thing, not deserving of any jail time. Regardless, this is in no way proportional to the 'crime', and I can't see how any sane person could defend this.
and I agreed, DUI is not punished severely enough.AussieReaper wrote:
The connection to DUI, which was brought up earlier in this thread, is that the punishment for DUI isn't as severe as 6 months jail.lowing wrote:
not sure what the connection is to DUI but I am forced to agree with you, it most certainly can result in manslaughter.AussieReaper wrote:
DUI is a serious action which can result in manslaughter.
Yawning hurts the judges pride.
He was not yawning, he was being a smart ass, disruptive and disrespectful to the proceedings. I guess it boils down to difference of opinion as to how he should be punished. Since I like the outcome, and am pleased, I guess it is up to you to come to grips with it.
Yup, I have gone without sleep, and yup I yawn. Now are you telling me that you can not yawn, without screaming and stretching your arms and making over exaggerated gestures, if you can not , then you might need to see a doctor, because I most certainly can. It has already been established this was not an innocent yawn. It was a smart ass, disrespectful, sarcastic purposeful distraction to the courtroom and the proceedings.ghettoperson wrote:
Lowing, I'm not sure if you've ever not had enough sleep, but sometimes when you start yawning you can't stop. Now maybe this might seem disrespectful to the judge, but is a perfectly innocent thing, not deserving of any jail time. Regardless, this is in no way proportional to the 'crime', and I can't see how any sane person could defend this.
Believe me, I am sane, and I support the punishement.
I read the full article again, and you're right, it does sound like it was done intentionally. Either way, whilst I appreciate that a court is a serious place, one night, two nights or a even a week is the sort of sentence you'd expect for disrupting the proceedings.
I think my opinion with regards to your sanity is fairly well known.
I think my opinion with regards to your sanity is fairly well known.
Well apparently you can now expect 6 months for disreupting proceedings.ghettoperson wrote:
I read the full article again, and you're right, it does sound like it was done intentionally. Either way, whilst I appreciate that a court is a serious place, one night, two nights or a even a week is the sort of sentence you'd expect for disrupting the proceedings.
I think my opinion with regards to your sanity is fairly well known.
As to my sanity, I can only say, liberals thinking I am wrong or crazy is is the only justification I need to know I am right and sane.
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