Macbeth
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A 26 year old woman was kicked out of a pool in Zwolle (Netherlands) on Thursday because she was wearing a burqini. The Muslim women, Liselotte Buitelaar, was in the water just five minutes playing with her two year old son, Illias, when she was told that there were complaints about her clothing.

Manager of the public pool, Hans Meijer, says that their regular public thinks it objectionable and that they need to take that into account. He says that they do the same for obese people and that they have separate hours for this groups so that they can swim with each other. Zwolle is not open yet to burqinis and he has to take that into account.
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2008/ … d-out.html

So do you think it was the right thing to do to kick her out of the pool? Also if a black guy tries to get into a pool full of white people and the white people all complain to the pool owner about the black guy getting in the pool do you think the pool owner has a right or obligation to tell the black guy he has to leave? Majority rule after all.
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how dare they ....... and I thought US was the only place they did this .... intolerence stuff
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krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
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what were the complaints exactly? she's wearing clothes! BAN!

gets a pretty big meh from me
Macbeth
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krazed wrote:

what were the complaints exactly? she's wearing clothes! BAN!

gets a pretty big meh from me
I believe macbeth posted something about majority rule and racism under the news story. Crazy fucker that guy is.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
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It has happened in France as well, but there the issue is health guidelines.

Muslim woman barred from Paris pool for `burquini'

PARIS – A Muslim woman who tried to go swimming in a head-to-toe "burquini" has been banned from her local pool in the latest tussle between religious practices and secular authority in France.

Officials on Wednesday insisted they banned the woman's use of the Islam-friendly swimsuit because of France's unusually strict hygiene standards in pools — not because of official hostility to wearing overtly Muslim garb.

Under the policy, swimmers are prevented from wearing any street-compatible or baggy clothing, such as Bermuda shorts, in favor of figure-hugging suits.

The woman, a 35-year-old convert to Islam identified only as Carole, complained of religious discrimination after trying to go swimming in her burquini in the Paris suburb of Emerainville.

She was quoted as telling the daily Le Parisien newspaper that she had bought the burquini after deciding "it would allow me the pleasure of bathing without showing too much of myself, as Islam recommends."

"For me this is nothing but segregation," she added.

The issue of religious attire is a hot topic in France, where head-to-toe burqas or other full-body coverings worn by Muslim fundamentalists are in official disfavor.

French lawmakers recently proposed a ban on the burqa and other voluminous Muslim attire. President Nicolas Sarkozy backs the move, saying such clothing makes women prisoners.

But Daniel Guillaume, a regional official in charge of swimming pools, said Carole's poolside rebuff had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with public health standards.

He said swimmers throughout France must wear special clothes to the pool, whereas a burquini could be worn all day long, collecting everything from food spills to sweat along the way.

"These clothes are used in public, so they can contain molecules, viruses, et cetera, which will go in the water and could be transmitted to other bathers," Guillaume said in a telephone interview.

"We reminded this woman that one should not bathe all dressed, just as we would tell someone who is a nudist not to bathe all naked," he said.

Guillaume said France's public health standards require all pool-goers to don appropriate attire — swimsuits for women and tight, swim-specific briefs for men — and caps to cover their hair. Bathers also must shower before entering the water.

Guillaume said Carole had tried to file a complaint at a local police station, but her request was turned down as groundless.

Carole told the daily Le Parisien she would protest with the help of anti-discrimination groups.

The Associated Press could not reach the woman for comment Wednesday.
Red Forman
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"Manager of the public pool, Hans Meijer, says that their regular public thinks it objectionable and that they need to take that into account. He says that they do the same for obese people and that they have separate hours for this groups so that they can swim with each other."

lol and you Euros try to fool us into thinking that you are progressive.  This is truly sick.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-12 14:15:37)

Lai
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Macbeth wrote:

A 26 year old woman was kicked out of a pool in Zwolle (Netherlands) on Thursday because she was wearing a burqini. The Muslim women, Liselotte Buitelaar, was in the water just five minutes playing with her two year old son, Illias, when she was told that there were complaints about her clothing.

Manager of the public pool, Hans Meijer, says that their regular public thinks it objectionable and that they need to take that into account. He says that they do the same for obese people and that they have separate hours for this groups so that they can swim with each other. Zwolle is not open yet to burqinis and he has to take that into account.
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2008/ … d-out.html

So do you think it was the right thing to do to kick her out of the pool? Also if a black guy tries to get into a pool full of white people and the white people all complain to the pool owner about the black guy getting in the pool do you think the pool owner has a right or obligation to tell the black guy he has to leave? Majority rule after all.
For your information "Liselotte Buitelaar" is a typical Dutch (traditionally Dutch are reformist protestant) name. This means the suposed "muslim woman" is in fact a Dutch convert. The type of girl to butt ugly to find a husband so they marry an extremist immigrant. She was probably bullied at school during her teens. Unable to find a place among normal people she becomes completely absorbed with some extreme cultural/religious/social direction otherwise alien to her conservative parental community. In effect this means she will be, in this case muslim, fundamentalist of the worst kind, more unreasonable and intolerant to "infidels" than any "native" muslim woman could ever be. If her parents are of the baby boom generation, she will probably be accepted, otherwise she has severed all family ties. Had she not married a muslim, she would probably have become a Goth.

IMO they should have left her in the pool, preferably below the surface of the water for a prolonged period of time.
mafia996630
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w … 793574.ece
France's struggle with Islamic dress moved to the swimming pool today after a 35-year-old woman was banned from bathing in the head-to-toe swimsuit known as the "burkini".

The woman, identified only as Carole, was making her third burkini outing to the town pool at Emerainville, in the eastern outskirts of Paris, when the chief lifeguard ordered her to leave.

She was said to be breaking hygiene rules but her ejection was seen as another episode in the battle between fundamentalist Muslims and a state that has banned head cover from schools and may curb face covering in public.

Carole accused the pool of illegal discrimination and immediately contacted police and the media. "Quite simply, this is segregation," she said. "I will fight to try to change things. And if I see that the battle is lost, I cannot rule out leaving France.

Police refused to accept the complaint, on the grounds that the lifeguard was enforcing rules that apply at all French public pools. Women must wear swimsuits and men must wear brief trunks, rather than shorts, which are said to be more likely to harbour bacteria.

Carole, who was born in a traditional French family before converting to Islam at 17, said she had bought her attire on holiday in Dubai.

The burkini, designed by Aheda Zanetti, a Lebanese-Australian, has become popular in the Gulf but has caused controversy in public pools in Europe and North America. The swimsuit leaves the face uncovered but the body is clad in a tracksuit-like tunic and coat. The head and neck are covered with a cross between a hijab and a diver's balaclava helmet.

"I thought that it could enable me to enjoy the pleasure of bathing without uncovering myself, as Islam recommends," she told Le Parisien newspaper. "I understand that it might shock people, but I am annoyed because I have been told that it is a political matter. I didn't set out to cause a stir. My only aim was to be able to go swimming with my children in a swimming pool," Carole said.

She compared her outfit to the neck-to-ankle body-suits favoured by Olympic swimmers. "The only difference is that they go faster than me," she said. However Paris pool officials said that the high-tech body-suits were not allowed during public swimming sessions.

The local authorities insisted that no politics were involved. "The lady was almost fully dressed," Daniel Guillaume, head of sports facilities for the Seine-et-Marne departement, said. "The personnel simply applied the rules that are in effect in all pools in France: you wear a bathing suit and take a shower before entering the water."

Some politicians want tougher measures to oppose a rise in body-covering by more orthodox Islamic women and Muslim demands for sexually segregated sessions at pools and other sports facilities.

"Maybe you can see the woman's face in this ridiculous swimsuit, but it is obviously a provocation by a militant," said André Gerin, a Communist MP from the Rhone area. "These women wearing their camisoles in public want to mark their difference. Going straight to the police station is clear proof that there is a political project behind this outfit," he said. "No doubt this is the start of a new problem."

Mr Gerin heads a 32-member parliamentary enquiry that opened last month to review the possibility of a law to bar Muslim women from wearing the face-covering burka, or niqab, in public.

President Sarkozy stirred fundamentalist anger in June when he sided with the review, saying that such dress was not a symbol of faith but a sign of women's subservience and that it had "no place in France".

At the start of the hearings, two academics described wearing the burka as a throwback to an archaic Islam and a type of cult-like behaviour, incompatible with modern France.

The move to legislate led to fears of a violent response from foreign extremists. "Yesterday it was the hijab and today, it is the niqab," said Abu Musab Abdul Wadud, leader of Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb of North Africa.

France caused a stir in the Muslim world in 2004 with a law barring the hijab headscarf and all other religious dress from state primary and secondary schools. The measure, which was implemented without protest, is strongly backed by the public, including a substantial number of the country's six million Muslims.
https://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00600/surf-360_600622a.jpg

Last edited by mafia996630 (2009-08-12 15:36:06)

Roger Lesboules
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The french growing balls?!?! Now that's good news!
Harmor
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Burkas (the full kind), are repressive to women and are a tool to keep them under control and submissive:

https://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3403/burkaswimsuitvnan.jpg
Turquoise
O Canada
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Well, in America, you can wear whatever ridiculous outfit you want to as long as you conform to certain identification rules.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
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You've got to be kidding me. That's unacceptable to do; anywhere.
AussieReaper
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That's a disgrace.

"Pool's closed due to racism."
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Spark
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Always marching forward, eh?

We had a riot before this shit started to get sorted out over here, mind
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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Superior Mind
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I googled burqini and this was on the first page of image results. So I will just pretend that this is a burqini and make my night much more enjoyable.
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The_Sniper_NM
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^ Lol. I googled burqini as well.
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you won't find burqini on the rate the girl thread ......................... well steel might put some thing like that in their
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krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
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he's fired from that thread, seriously
Stingray24
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Well at least their whole face can breath instead of just their eyeballs.
mafia996630
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this is so stupid, let them wear what ever the fuk they want to wear.
lowing
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Macbeth wrote:

A 26 year old woman was kicked out of a pool in Zwolle (Netherlands) on Thursday because she was wearing a burqini. The Muslim women, Liselotte Buitelaar, was in the water just five minutes playing with her two year old son, Illias, when she was told that there were complaints about her clothing.

Manager of the public pool, Hans Meijer, says that their regular public thinks it objectionable and that they need to take that into account. He says that they do the same for obese people and that they have separate hours for this groups so that they can swim with each other. Zwolle is not open yet to burqinis and he has to take that into account.
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2008/ … d-out.html

So do you think it was the right thing to do to kick her out of the pool? Also if a black guy tries to get into a pool full of white people and the white people all complain to the pool owner about the black guy getting in the pool do you think the pool owner has a right or obligation to tell the black guy he has to leave? Majority rule after all.
No, I do not think it was right. However, it does show just how sick to death people are with Islam. they do not want it in their countries regardless as to what Braddock and others want you to think about tolerant Europe, and the problem is, they have every right to feel that way. The west is not Islamic, if you want Islam take it to the ME.

Last edited by lowing (2009-08-13 19:50:33)

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