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Nah. The irony is if man has freewill and God can't stop someone from chopping off your head, wtf are you worshiping him for in the first place?ATG wrote:
God wants us to have freewill.
These men sin by denying the beheadeds freewill.
The irony is astounding.
There is nothing extremist about this. This is ISLAM out right as it is taught.Harmor wrote:
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/aug/06/national-06-08-2009-01.htm
This is sad how Islamic extremists beheaded these three Christian Nigerian pastors because they refused to convert to Islam.
I think asking God to directly intervene in the casual day to day atrocities man commits would be like asking the fed to become a majority share holder in your business. It is also like, dude, it's the killers freewill. How could God give man freewill if he intervenes in it and stops man from exerting it?Red Forman wrote:
Nah. The irony is if man has freewill and God can't stop someone from chopping off your head, wtf are you worshiping him for in the first place?ATG wrote:
God wants us to have freewill.
These men sin by denying the beheadeds freewill.
The irony is astounding.
So, God controls nothing then yes? That's awesome. I will save my worship time for something that can control stuff.ATG wrote:
I think asking God to directly intervene in the casual day to day atrocities man commits would be like asking the fed to become a majority share holder in your business. It is also like, dude, it's the killers freewill. How could God give man freewill if he intervenes in it and stops man from exerting it?Red Forman wrote:
Nah. The irony is if man has freewill and God can't stop someone from chopping off your head, wtf are you worshiping him for in the first place?ATG wrote:
God wants us to have freewill.
These men sin by denying the beheadeds freewill.
The irony is astounding.
/fail
They did what the Koran told them to doHarmor wrote:
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/aug/06/national-06-08-2009-01.htm
This is sad how Islamic extremists beheaded these three Christian Nigerian pastors because they refused to convert to Islam.
Such as?Red Forman wrote:
So, God controls nothing then yes? That's awesome. I will save my worship time for something that can control stuff.ATG wrote:
I think asking God to directly intervene in the casual day to day atrocities man commits would be like asking the fed to become a majority share holder in your business. It is also like, dude, it's the killers freewill. How could God give man freewill if he intervenes in it and stops man from exerting it?Red Forman wrote:
Nah. The irony is if man has freewill and God can't stop someone from chopping off your head, wtf are you worshiping him for in the first place?
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Nothing yet.......hence my point.ATG wrote:
Such as?Red Forman wrote:
So, God controls nothing then yes? That's awesome. I will save my worship time for something that can control stuff.ATG wrote:
I think asking God to directly intervene in the casual day to day atrocities man commits would be like asking the fed to become a majority share holder in your business. It is also like, dude, it's the killers freewill. How could God give man freewill if he intervenes in it and stops man from exerting it?
/fail
No the real irony is Islam trying to pass itself off as a peaceful tolerant religion and they will kill you if you depict them as otherwise.Red Forman wrote:
Nah. The irony is if man has freewill and God can't stop someone from chopping off your head, wtf are you worshiping him for in the first place?ATG wrote:
God wants us to have freewill.
These men sin by denying the beheadeds freewill.
The irony is astounding.
Eh Christianity didn't start till around 30 AD and Islam 600 AD, they have a bit of catching up to do as a religion about 600 years worth.lowing wrote:
No the real irony is Islam trying to pass itself off as a peaceful tolerant religion and they will kill you if you depict them as otherwise.Red Forman wrote:
Nah. The irony is if man has freewill and God can't stop someone from chopping off your head, wtf are you worshiping him for in the first place?ATG wrote:
God wants us to have freewill.
These men sin by denying the beheadeds freewill.
The irony is astounding.
One more piece of irony for ya.
It is ironic that there are those of you that stand up and defend this bullshit religion in the name of tolerance for religions, but denounce those that speak of the intolerant actions committed in its name.
Narcissist.Red Forman wrote:
Nothing yet.......hence my point.ATG wrote:
Such as?Red Forman wrote:
So, God controls nothing then yes? That's awesome. I will save my worship time for something that can control stuff.
Realist. Or, I am God.ATG wrote:
Narcissist.Red Forman wrote:
Nothing yet.......hence my point.ATG wrote:
Such as?
It all has to revolve around you. Or a man.
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.ATG wrote:
Narcissist.Red Forman wrote:
Nothing yet.......hence my point.ATG wrote:
Such as?
It all has to revolve around you. Or a man.
Islam has something Christianity didn't, a blueprint of a working moral society to model after, so your argument is pretty much out the window.Macbeth wrote:
Eh Christianity didn't start till around 30 AD and Islam 600 AD, they have a bit of catching up to do as a religion about 600 years worth.lowing wrote:
No the real irony is Islam trying to pass itself off as a peaceful tolerant religion and they will kill you if you depict them as otherwise.Red Forman wrote:
Nah. The irony is if man has freewill and God can't stop someone from chopping off your head, wtf are you worshiping him for in the first place?
One more piece of irony for ya.
It is ironic that there are those of you that stand up and defend this bullshit religion in the name of tolerance for religions, but denounce those that speak of the intolerant actions committed in its name.
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i have yet yo see that movie, looks like a laugh. As for OP, I don't need someone to describe it to me.Red Forman wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iUyAppOOU0
Macbeth wrote:
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.ATG wrote:
Narcissist.Red Forman wrote:
Nothing yet.......hence my point.
It all has to revolve around you. Or a man.
The idea of god is out dated and just remains to hold man back in an ever changing world.
What he said.lowing wrote:
There is nothing extremist about this. This is ISLAM out right as it is taught.Harmor wrote:
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/aug/06/national-06-08-2009-01.htm
This is sad how Islamic extremists beheaded these three Christian Nigerian pastors because they refused to convert to Islam.
I have friends that went to Rwanda a few years back to build a school and their word. There is no expectation of protection.SEREMAKER wrote:
never understood the reasoning on doing mission trips to these fucked up countries ( didn't read the article, and its probably about christians from Nigeria)
but still its fucked up when kids load up and head off to some 3rd rate country with hope and glory for protection
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