omfg you are so funnyMacbeth wrote:
Nah they'd just change the name to "Border Cops" and have even more stuff to tape.Marlboroman82 wrote:
cops would be so boring if drugs were legalized...
You are all stupid if you think that people are going to be willing to pay more for marijuana, just to make it legal. If it gets legalized, the majority of people will still buy it illegally, if just to save some money. Furthermore, no one will care, since it will be legal, and it will be almost impossible to keep track of. The with all of the serious discussion of universal health care, legalization of marijuana is the last thing we should be talking about right now, really.Red Forman wrote:
That is the LAST thing you pot smokers should want tbh. Have fun paying twice as much for regulated crap.King_County_Downy wrote:
If they would just legalize marijuana....
You should read the posts after the one you quoted. Those essentially dispel your argument. Or maybe you'd like to debate the merits of those arguments.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
You are all stupid if you think that people are going to be willing to pay more for marijuana, just to make it legal. If it gets legalized, the majority of people will still buy it illegally, if just to save some money. Furthermore, no one will care, since it will be legal, and it will be almost impossible to keep track of. The with all of the serious discussion of universal health care, legalization of marijuana is the last thing we should be talking about right now, really.Red Forman wrote:
That is the LAST thing you pot smokers should want tbh. Have fun paying twice as much for regulated crap.King_County_Downy wrote:
If they would just legalize marijuana....
Blow me.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
You are all stupidRed Forman wrote:
That is the LAST thing you pot smokers should want tbh. Have fun paying twice as much for regulated crap.King_County_Downy wrote:
If they would just legalize marijuana....
America fails at all its wars.
Fuck Israel
Should have really stop the war on drugs when yous got your war on Communism to keep the people shit scared and reliant on the state to protect them.
Huge waste of money. Reefer madness in fact.
If fuckwits want to take drugs, let them.
Huge waste of money. Reefer madness in fact.
If fuckwits want to take drugs, let them.
Uh no. You clearly don't understand how much more contraband costs than regulated products.Red Forman wrote:
That is the LAST thing you pot smokers should want tbh. Have fun paying twice as much for regulated crap.King_County_Downy wrote:
If they would just legalize marijuana....
Typically, when something is illegal, it costs 3 times as much on the black market as it would in a legal market. In the case of drugs, the cost is often hundreds of times more expensive per volume because of its illegal status.
One of the few cases where this isn't true is tobacco. The reason why there are cheaper illegal smokes in NY is because different states charge different amounts with taxation. NY cigarette taxes are much higher than say, NC's cig taxes. So people drive up to NY to sell smokes for cheaper while still making a profit.
In the case of marijuana, this might still happen due to discrepancies between state taxes, but the value of pot would plummet after legalization, and the source of marijuana would primarily be legal even in these interstate trades (bought from one state and sold in another).
It would also kill a major market for Mexican drug cartels.
Uh no, I do understand. I also know how the govt works. You cant compare to tobacco at all.Turquoise wrote:
Uh no. You clearly don't understand how much more contraband costs than regulated products.Red Forman wrote:
That is the LAST thing you pot smokers should want tbh. Have fun paying twice as much for regulated crap.King_County_Downy wrote:
If they would just legalize marijuana....
Typically, when something is illegal, it costs 3 times as much on the black market as it would in a legal market. In the case of drugs, the cost is often hundreds of times more expensive per volume because of its illegal status.
One of the few cases where this isn't true is tobacco. The reason why there are cheaper illegal smokes in NY is because different states charge different amounts with taxation. NY cigarette taxes are much higher than say, NC's cig taxes. So people drive up to NY to sell smokes for cheaper while still making a profit.
In the case of marijuana, this might still happen due to discrepancies between state taxes, but the value of pot would plummet after legalization, and the source of marijuana would primarily be legal even in these interstate trades (bought from one state and sold in another).
It would also kill a major market for Mexican drug cartels.
With Prohibition, the cost of alcohol skyrocketed. Organized crime sold it when before, they didn't have any interest in it.Red Forman wrote:
Uh no, I do understand. I also know how the govt works. You cant compare to tobacco at all.
After Prohibition was repealed, organized crime no longer sold alcohol because the value plummeted in it.
Any questions? Marijuana is directly comparable to any drug made illegal and then legal because that's how the market works.
Booze was legal before that. Much much different.
Yep, and so was pot. Marijuana wasn't made illegal until 1937.Red Forman wrote:
Booze was legal before that. Much much different.
Yep...but there were no MJ plants and such. The alcohol industry was well established.Turquoise wrote:
Yep, and so was pot. Marijuana wasn't made illegal until 1937.Red Forman wrote:
Booze was legal before that. Much much different.
Not the case.Red Forman wrote:
Yep...but there were no MJ plants and such. The alcohol industry was well established.Turquoise wrote:
Yep, and so was pot. Marijuana wasn't made illegal until 1937.Red Forman wrote:
Booze was legal before that. Much much different.
In fact it used to be illegal not to grow cannabis in England if you had a certain amount of land.
Not talking about England thank you.Bertster7 wrote:
Not the case.Red Forman wrote:
Yep...but there were no MJ plants and such. The alcohol industry was well established.Turquoise wrote:
Yep, and so was pot. Marijuana wasn't made illegal until 1937.
In fact it used to be illegal not to grow cannabis in England if you had a certain amount of land.
While it is true that alcohol was a much larger market, marijuana has been around for a long, long time. It was a large enough market to attract the attention of Hearst.Red Forman wrote:
Yep...but there were no MJ plants and such. The alcohol industry was well established.Turquoise wrote:
Yep, and so was pot. Marijuana wasn't made illegal until 1937.Red Forman wrote:
Booze was legal before that. Much much different.
Well, I don't agree that you can compare. You think you can compare. Not going to change either mind. See you in the next thread.Turquoise wrote:
While it is true that alcohol was a much larger market, marijuana has been around for a long, long time. It was a large enough market to attract the attention of Hearst.Red Forman wrote:
Yep...but there were no MJ plants and such. The alcohol industry was well established.Turquoise wrote:
Yep, and so was pot. Marijuana wasn't made illegal until 1937.
Read up on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937Red Forman wrote:
Well, I don't agree that you can compare. You think you can compare. Not going to change either mind. See you in the next thread.Turquoise wrote:
While it is true that alcohol was a much larger market, marijuana has been around for a long, long time. It was a large enough market to attract the attention of Hearst.Red Forman wrote:
Yep...but there were no MJ plants and such. The alcohol industry was well established.
It might change your mind a little bit.
How can you not find Drunk Rednecks beating their wife non entertainment..Marlboroman82 wrote:
cops would be so boring if drugs were legalized...
or DUI stops?
Seen that before, sir.Turquoise wrote:
Read up on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937Red Forman wrote:
Well, I don't agree that you can compare. You think you can compare. Not going to change either mind. See you in the next thread.Turquoise wrote:
While it is true that alcohol was a much larger market, marijuana has been around for a long, long time. It was a large enough market to attract the attention of Hearst.
It might change your mind a little bit.
So what?Red Forman wrote:
Not talking about England thank you.Bertster7 wrote:
Not the case.Red Forman wrote:
Yep...but there were no MJ plants and such. The alcohol industry was well established.
In fact it used to be illegal not to grow cannabis in England if you had a certain amount of land.
Any nation with any sort of maritime tradition will have had it grown exceedingly widely.
I have read them. If they are there, please be more clear in your posts, because I do not know what they are.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
You should read the posts after the one you quoted. Those essentially dispel your argument. Or maybe you'd like to debate the merits of those arguments.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
You are all stupid if you think that people are going to be willing to pay more for marijuana, just to make it legal. If it gets legalized, the majority of people will still buy it illegally, if just to save some money. Furthermore, no one will care, since it will be legal, and it will be almost impossible to keep track of. The with all of the serious discussion of universal health care, legalization of marijuana is the last thing we should be talking about right now, really.Red Forman wrote:
That is the LAST thing you pot smokers should want tbh. Have fun paying twice as much for regulated crap.
So far, from what I've read, the pro-pot people have made much better cases than the anti-pot people. I really couldn't care less either way, but it's an interesting read. Carry on puppets, carry on
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you want it stopped - give me all the resources I ask for and ask NO questions .... then just stay out of my way
That's the funny thing really. It's so easy to win.SEREMAKER wrote:
you want it stopped - give me all the resources I ask for and ask NO questions .... then just stay out of my way
Of course it is. Which is why no country has ever successfully done so throughout history - including some incredibly brutal regimes.Red Forman wrote:
That's the funny thing really. It's so easy to win.SEREMAKER wrote:
you want it stopped - give me all the resources I ask for and ask NO questions .... then just stay out of my way
Singapore have done a very good job with their policy that does not criminalise users, but forces them to go into rehab. Dealers are executed. But even there they have usage of around 0.5% - most of that heroin.