Poll

Do you think it is okay to break the law if it will benefit you.

Yes34%34% - 18
No44%44% - 23
Get dat green21%21% - 11
Total: 52
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6647

Of course. Once, I needed to paint a room but I had no money, so I went to the store and got dat green without paying for it. I could only take the small tins though, the 15L ones were too big to hide on my person.
Bevo
Nah
+718|6519|Austin, Texas
Depends at what detriment to others.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6644
No.

Whether I break the law or not has nothing to do with money.
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6576|Columbus, OH
I ride my mountain bike w/o a helmet when do I get PAID
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|5762|Belgium
Everything you buy usually benifits you, so you're saying instead of paying for anything, you'd just steal it?

lulz
Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|5813|Fattest Country in the world.
I remember the case of a woman who was caught driving "at excessive and dangerous speeds" on her way to hospital...

She was caught doing some double-the-speed limit of the zone she was in while rushing to hospital due to her dad in a critcal life-threatening condition. He had a stroke or something and was on his last stand, so she speed to his aid. The Highway Patrol pinned her speed and tailed her with Red and Blues, she failed to stop, the 'pursuit' lasted for like 5 minutes until she pulled into the hospital, as she got out of her car she was forcefully arrested. Despite telling the Patrol her dad was in the hospital dying and that was the only reason she was speeding, the Patrol took her off to the local slammer. Her dad died shortly after she was arrested.

She broke the law, no one was injured, she just wanted to tell her dad she loved him. Was what she did OK? Would you do it if you were in her position? Should the Police Officer exercised better discretion to at least follow her into the hotpial, wait until she said her goodbyes then arrested her?
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6691
It's not "OK", but desperate times call for desperate measures. Breaking the law is in itself not OK by certain standards. I would.
MrAnderson
Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore
+99|5997|Aberdeen, Scotland

Zombie_Affair wrote:

She broke the law, no one was injured, she just wanted to tell her dad she loved him. Was what she did OK? Would you do it if you were in her position? Should the Police Officer exercised better discretion to at least follow her into the hotpial, wait until she said her goodbyes then arrested her?
I would say she should have received some punishment, as her actions could have had serious consequences; however, you would think some compassion should have been shown...let her speak to her dad, deal with the 'crime' afterwards.

Anyway, the question is a bit ridiculous; mugging an old lady for her savings might 'benefit you greatly', that doesn't make it ok.
That said, I think morals are more important than laws; if what you're doing doesn't directly harm anyone else (ie smoking a bit of pot, photocopying music for a band, riding a bike without a helmet), I'm not gonna report you.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6579|SE London

Depends upon whether it will have an impact on others. If so, then possibly. If no, then yes.
Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|5813|Fattest Country in the world.

MrAnderson wrote:

Anyway, the question is a bit ridiculous; mugging an old lady for her savings might 'benefit you greatly', that doesn't make it ok.
That said, I think morals are more important than laws; if what you're doing doesn't directly harm anyone else (ie smoking a bit of pot, photocopying music for a band, riding a bike without a helmet), I'm not gonna report you.
This is an extract of an National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster and US Army Lieutenant General Reinwald about sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop on his military installation. Interviewer: "So, LTG Reinwald, what are you going to do with these young boys on their adventure holiday?"

LTG Reinwald: "We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery, and shooting."

Interviewer: "Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?"

LTG Reinwald: "I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range."

Interviewer: "Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?"

LTG Reinwald: "I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper range discipline before they even touch a firearm."

Interviewer: "But you're equipping them to become violent killers."

LTG Reinwald: "Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?"

End of the interview
Sorry, your post reminded me of this.

Last edited by Zombie_Affair (2009-07-21 07:18:32)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6527|Global Command
Stupid question tbh.
Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|5813|Fattest Country in the world.

ATG wrote:

Stupid question tbh.
There are times when breaking the law may be overlooked. Specifically in the instance of life and death scenarios. Breaking the law is not OK, but if you're willing to suffer the consequences of prohibited actions to save someone else's life or the life of others then..who knows.

This is where the debate of Ethics vs. Morality come in. I'm up for a debate on such a topic in D&ST, maybe I might put something up later, I look forward to your input Mr. Grape.

Last edited by Zombie_Affair (2009-07-21 07:41:48)

Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5700|College Park, MD

Zombie_Affair wrote:

I remember the case of a woman who was caught driving "at excessive and dangerous speeds" on her way to hospital...

She was caught doing some double-the-speed limit of the zone she was in while rushing to hospital due to her dad in a critcal life-threatening condition. He had a stroke or something and was on his last stand, so she speed to his aid. The Highway Patrol pinned her speed and tailed her with Red and Blues, she failed to stop, the 'pursuit' lasted for like 5 minutes until she pulled into the hospital, as she got out of her car she was forcefully arrested. Despite telling the Patrol her dad was in the hospital dying and that was the only reason she was speeding, the Patrol took her off to the local slammer. Her dad died shortly after she was arrested.

She broke the law, no one was injured, she just wanted to tell her dad she loved him. Was what she did OK? Would you do it if you were in her position? Should the Police Officer exercised better discretion to at least follow her into the hotpial, wait until she said her goodbyes then arrested her?
Cops should have let her take her dad into the ER and then arrest her if necessary. Your example is pretty much one of the only things I think it's okay to break the law to do... when seconds count the police and EMS are only minutes away.

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2009-07-21 08:12:39)

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Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|6841|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Yes, as long as there is no victim.
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6576|Columbus, OH
crime pays in China. Microsoft lowered the price of MS Office to $29.00 in order to combat software piracy.

link

In order to take a bite out of piracy, Microsoft sells copies of its Office Suite in China for just $29 dollars. I wonder how many copies Americans would have to pirate to get the same price? So much for the notion that "crime does not pay!"

I found the pricing information earlier today in a BusinessWeek story about how Microsoft is slashing prices to grab market share and fight off Google and the others that are giving away functionality Microsoft customers are used to paying for.

The magazine said Microsoft estimates 95 percent of all copies of Office used in China are illegal copies. Since the $29 pricing started in September, sales of Office have supposedly increased 800 percent.

This looks like a case of where crime pays big dividends. And, no, I am not suggesting for readers to pirate copies of Office in order to send Redmond a pricing message.

Still, we Westerners have been paying through the nose for Office for almost two decades. If anyone deserves a price break, it's us--not the thieving Chinese. But, it seems that if you are a fast-growing market, lawlessness aside, Microsoft wants to cut you a deal.

I understand what Microsoft is doing and why. I am happy for anything that reduces software theft, but that doesn't make me nearly as happy as a $29 copy of Office would.

This pricing is another demonstration of how Microsoft's business model is under attack, especially in the consumer and small business space. Its enterprise business isn't as solid as it used to be, either, as big corporate customers are remarkably happy with the software they are already using.

These changes haven't caught Redmond quite as flat-footed as when Netscape first arrived on the scene, forcing Microsoft to Internet-enable products at warp speed.

The company has doubtless seen the current market turmoil coming for years, but had little reason to tip its hand. Microsoft clearly needs be more responsive with its pricing and find better ways to compete globally. I guess giving the Chinese $29 copies Microsoft Office is a part of this.

This is still more Microsoft angst we will just have to live with.
Lawyers and lawsuits keep us in check with software piracy, while China says, "F U, can't touch this"

Last edited by loubot (2009-07-21 11:01:21)

CrazeD
Member
+368|6671|Maine
Doesn't breaking the law almost always benefit you?
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+794|6683|United States of America

CrazeD wrote:

Doesn't breaking the law almost always benefit you?
This. I was like when reading this
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|5715|Vancouver, BC, Canada

Zombie_Affair wrote:

I remember the case of a woman who was caught driving "at excessive and dangerous speeds" on her way to hospital...

She was caught doing some double-the-speed limit of the zone she was in while rushing to hospital due to her dad in a critcal life-threatening condition. He had a stroke or something and was on his last stand, so she speed to his aid. The Highway Patrol pinned her speed and tailed her with Red and Blues, she failed to stop, the 'pursuit' lasted for like 5 minutes until she pulled into the hospital, as she got out of her car she was forcefully arrested. Despite telling the Patrol her dad was in the hospital dying and that was the only reason she was speeding, the Patrol took her off to the local slammer. Her dad died shortly after she was arrested.

She broke the law, no one was injured, she just wanted to tell her dad she loved him. Was what she did OK? Would you do it if you were in her position? Should the Police Officer exercised better discretion to at least follow her into the hotpial, wait until she said her goodbyes then arrested her?
I have actually pondered the thought of what I would do in a situation like this (before even reading that article)

tbh, I'd call 911, tell em where I am and my Plate numbers, and tell the cops to LAY THE FUCK OFF I'm goin to the damn hospital.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6647

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

I remember the case of a woman who was caught driving "at excessive and dangerous speeds" on her way to hospital...

She was caught doing some double-the-speed limit of the zone she was in while rushing to hospital due to her dad in a critcal life-threatening condition. He had a stroke or something and was on his last stand, so she speed to his aid. The Highway Patrol pinned her speed and tailed her with Red and Blues, she failed to stop, the 'pursuit' lasted for like 5 minutes until she pulled into the hospital, as she got out of her car she was forcefully arrested. Despite telling the Patrol her dad was in the hospital dying and that was the only reason she was speeding, the Patrol took her off to the local slammer. Her dad died shortly after she was arrested.

She broke the law, no one was injured, she just wanted to tell her dad she loved him. Was what she did OK? Would you do it if you were in her position? Should the Police Officer exercised better discretion to at least follow her into the hotpial, wait until she said her goodbyes then arrested her?
Cops should have let her take her dad into the ER and then arrest her if necessary. Your example is pretty much one of the only things I think it's okay to break the law to do... when seconds count the police and EMS are only minutes away.
So you've never had a beer? Smoked weed? Jaywalked? Watched porn whilst under 18?
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6536|Long Island, New York
pretty sure 95% of people break the law once a day, if not more
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5700|College Park, MD

ghettoperson wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

I remember the case of a woman who was caught driving "at excessive and dangerous speeds" on her way to hospital...

She was caught doing some double-the-speed limit of the zone she was in while rushing to hospital due to her dad in a critcal life-threatening condition. He had a stroke or something and was on his last stand, so she speed to his aid. The Highway Patrol pinned her speed and tailed her with Red and Blues, she failed to stop, the 'pursuit' lasted for like 5 minutes until she pulled into the hospital, as she got out of her car she was forcefully arrested. Despite telling the Patrol her dad was in the hospital dying and that was the only reason she was speeding, the Patrol took her off to the local slammer. Her dad died shortly after she was arrested.

She broke the law, no one was injured, she just wanted to tell her dad she loved him. Was what she did OK? Would you do it if you were in her position? Should the Police Officer exercised better discretion to at least follow her into the hotpial, wait until she said her goodbyes then arrested her?
Cops should have let her take her dad into the ER and then arrest her if necessary. Your example is pretty much one of the only things I think it's okay to break the law to do... when seconds count the police and EMS are only minutes away.
So you've never had a beer? Smoked weed? Jaywalked? Watched porn whilst under 18?
I never said I haven't broken laws. But frankly, a 17 year old drinking a beer is a far less severe offense than, say, murder. And to answer your questions yes to all except weed (never had access to it).

And what benefit am I getting out of drinking beer? None really. I'm not getting "dat green"/a welfare check for it
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DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+794|6683|United States of America

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

I remember the case of a woman who was caught driving "at excessive and dangerous speeds" on her way to hospital...

She was caught doing some double-the-speed limit of the zone she was in while rushing to hospital due to her dad in a critcal life-threatening condition. He had a stroke or something and was on his last stand, so she speed to his aid. The Highway Patrol pinned her speed and tailed her with Red and Blues, she failed to stop, the 'pursuit' lasted for like 5 minutes until she pulled into the hospital, as she got out of her car she was forcefully arrested. Despite telling the Patrol her dad was in the hospital dying and that was the only reason she was speeding, the Patrol took her off to the local slammer. Her dad died shortly after she was arrested.

She broke the law, no one was injured, she just wanted to tell her dad she loved him. Was what she did OK? Would you do it if you were in her position? Should the Police Officer exercised better discretion to at least follow her into the hotpial, wait until she said her goodbyes then arrested her?
Cops should have let her take her dad into the ER and then arrest her if necessary. Your example is pretty much one of the only things I think it's okay to break the law to do... when seconds count the police and EMS are only minutes away.
I may be incorrect, but from the story it seems that her dad was already in the hospital on his deathbed and she was speeding to him, which as tragic as it may seem that she wouldn't be able to say goodbye to her dad, she had no right to break the law. It would have been different if she was driving her dad to the hospital in order to try to get him treatment, but not if she's going to visit him.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6466
It's perfectly acceptable to kill a relative to inherit their fortune.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5584

The OP was a joke, meant to highlight the long essay the man wrote and the absurd behavior of the people mentioned without a direct "look at laugh" type OP. Very disappointted gentlemen.
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6576|Columbus, OH

Macbeth wrote:

The OP was a joke, meant to highlight the long essay the man wrote and the absurd behavior of the people mentioned without a direct "look at laugh" type OP. Very disappointted gentlemen.
I try better next time

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