AussieReaper
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+5,761|6443|what

Red Forman wrote:

What do you mean freedom of speech?  If I write something bad about someone I can be sued for slander.
But you can still write it. Calls for these guys to not even hold a conference are a bit much. And you're kidding yourself if you think/believe the intelligence agencies won't keep a tab on what happens there, if they deem it worth investigating.

lowing wrote:

nope not these, sedition, and treason, inciting to riot, aiding the enemy,  are not normally covered by the constitution. Contrary to your bullshit, you simply do not have the "right" to say or do whatever you want.

and your argument is bullshit because you are trying to pass along any curtailing to such things as an attack on freedom.
Treason? Inciting a riot? Now you're just making stuff up. In case you have not noticed, they haven't held the conference yet. Maybe wait until after they commit treason or incite a riot before jumping up and down calling for an arrest...

They do have the right to say whatever they want, within it's limits of course. But if you prevent them from speaking then you are breaking the first amendment.
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mikkel
Member
+383|6891

lowing wrote:

mikkel wrote:

lowing wrote:

I wonder just how many of these infinite "just a few" examples it will take to be recognized by the pacifists/appeasers as something that needs be of concern.
I think moderates can continue to ignore loud-mouthed individuals, yourself included, for quite a while to come.
you speak of individuals, I speak of a religion.
Just as the other individuals like you do.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6737|Chicago, IL
This meeting is about 20 minutes from my house...

People here are not amused.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6941|USA

AussieReaper wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

What do you mean freedom of speech?  If I write something bad about someone I can be sued for slander.
But you can still write it. Calls for these guys to not even hold a conference are a bit much. And you're kidding yourself if you think/believe the intelligence agencies won't keep a tab on what happens there, if they deem it worth investigating.

lowing wrote:

nope not these, sedition, and treason, inciting to riot, aiding the enemy,  are not normally covered by the constitution. Contrary to your bullshit, you simply do not have the "right" to say or do whatever you want.

and your argument is bullshit because you are trying to pass along any curtailing to such things as an attack on freedom.
Treason? Inciting a riot? Now you're just making stuff up. In case you have not noticed, they haven't held the conference yet. Maybe wait until after they commit treason or incite a riot before jumping up and down calling for an arrest...

They do have the right to say whatever they want, within it's limits of course. But if you prevent them from speaking then you are breaking the first amendment.
Look Aussie, if you think it is, or should be fuckin legal for them to recruit for Al Qaeda in Chicago, then you are part of the problem, but hey, with your peace at any price mind set, that is already established.

Last edited by lowing (2009-07-18 11:33:24)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|6941|USA

mikkel wrote:

lowing wrote:

mikkel wrote:


I think moderates can continue to ignore loud-mouthed individuals, yourself included, for quite a while to come.
you speak of individuals, I speak of a religion.
Just as the other individuals like you do.
ummmmmmmm yeah, and?

It is beyond my ability to help you understand that INDIVIDUALS are judged by their actions and RELIGIONS are judged by their teachings and their message.
mikkel
Member
+383|6891

lowing wrote:

mikkel wrote:

lowing wrote:


you speak of individuals, I speak of a religion.
Just as the other individuals like you do.
ummmmmmmm yeah, and?

It is beyond my ability to help you understand that INDIVIDUALS are judged by their actions and RELIGIONS are judged by their teachings and their message.
Heh
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6941|USA

mikkel wrote:

lowing wrote:

mikkel wrote:


Just as the other individuals like you do.
ummmmmmmm yeah, and?

It is beyond my ability to help you understand that INDIVIDUALS are judged by their actions and RELIGIONS are judged by their teachings and their message.
Heh
well said
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6473|Ireland
Islam, can't live with it and they cut off your fucking head if you try to live without it.

Isn't it time that the world just admits that Islam has fucked up the world with their Jihad terrorism bullshit and we collectively decide to outlaw the stupidity.  I mean jumping jesus how messed up are the retards that believe in this book.

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