Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6219|Brisneyland
Chinas stimulus packages have been a massive success while most other countries around the world are in the grip of recession. What are they doing right?

Source

Alan Kohler wrote:

...but the stimulus packages of China and the United States have been very similar in both size and intent – it’s just that one has been better targeted and has therefore worked better.

Alan Kohler wrote:

A big difference has been that 44 per cent of the stimulus has been in the form of tax cuts, while none of China’s has.

Total size of stimulus, according to Brookings, is $US841.2 billion for the US (5.9 per cent of GDP) and $US204.3 billion for China (4.8 per cent of GDP).

Both countries have poured huge amounts of money into spending on roads and infrastructure, and both have deliberately and massively expanded money supply.

The difference is state control. In China, the money for infrastructure has been distributed to state-owned companies, which have spent it all on hiring workers. In the US, companies have been more careful about hiring and more concerned with repairing their balance sheets first.

More importantly, state-owned banks have been lending money hand over fist. Unlike in the US, there has been a credit boom, caused by Beijing directly instructing its banks to lend.
The article also goes onto say a lot about the history of Chinese socialism and quotes Deng XiaoPing saying “Socialism does not mean shared poverty.”

To me it seems like the paradox of thrift is holding back the recovery a lot. Companies that have been given govt money in the US are reluctant to spend. Lending has slowed down big time, which stifles growth. It also points to the fact that tax cuts probably arent the right answer at the moment ( always unpopular, but there you go). People are possibly saving any money they get through tax cuts.

Should more countries look at a socialist model of stimulus package?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6618|London, England
China works because they will kill you if you don't make it work
Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6219|Brisneyland
Not quite true. I wont pretend that chinese human rights is great by any means, but its not the reason their economy is improving.
maffiaw
ph33r me 傻逼
+40|6417|Melbourne, AUS

Mekstizzle wrote:

China works because they will kill you if you don't make it work
that makes 100% sense. what a succinct statement of the truth.

the only reason anyone wants to have a job and get money is because of fear of death, not to have a better life. right.

common sense people, please.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6402|North Carolina
I think it works like this.

China's culture is much more collectivist.  They're basically on the opposite extreme as compared to America's individualism.

The advantage to this strong collective mindset is that grand schemes via government work really well when everyone gets on board.  People are willing to put aside their personal issues in favor of what they see as the greater good.

The disadvantage of this is that they also allow their government to crush any...  inconvenient... incidents of individualism.

With America, the opposite is true.  We enjoy a greater degree of personal freedom than practically any other country, but as a culture, we often find it the hardest to work together toward a common goal.  As a result, our individualism often manifests in very shortsighted greed, which on a massive enough level, has the potential to destroy our economy.  This is why government schemes here don't do so well a lot of the time.

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